If someone ask you "Luwas na ba ka?", whats ur answer?

[rcruman]

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yeah, i understand what you mean.. i am just clarifying that it does not end with faith. contrary to Scripture too, people also teach that we can be righteous by faith alone. it is a balance between what we believe in, and what we practice in our lives.

Where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "righteous by faith alone"?

Peace!

[nemmo723]

Where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "righteous by faith alone"?

Peace!

where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "faith without good deeds is dead"?

Peace!

[mr.ho_chia2]

So para sa imoha bro mas nindot ang istorya kung maglalis?
para sa imo bati ang istorya kung nagkasinabot? how sober naman.

Peace!

unsa to? unsa imo frequency dha kay magtuning sa ko. hehe. joke lang bro, ayaw pud seryoso kaayo kay matiguwang ka.
sober na bitaw ko, you doubt it? or you judging me?

[br]Posted on: September 06, 2007, 02:30:09 PM_________________________________________________

where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "faith without good deeds is dead"?

Peace!

naana sir. faith without work is dead. awa na ang pagbabalik.... the revenge of the hibernated rc ruman....... [br]Posted on: September 06, 2007, 02:32:16 PM_________________________________________________

I don't reject the Catholic faith just because of my personal view or understanding.
I rejected it because its not biblical and Catholic is not a teaching of Christ.

libog ko sa imo statement "pareha mo but lahi", kindly elaborate.
So sa tanan nakong post nalingaw ka? be true bro, lingaw gud intawon nga puliki man gani kag tubag kung asa sa bible imo gipangsulti.

Peace!

dili nalang nako explain sir kay samot ka malibog. mao mao naman nuon. [br]Posted on: September 06, 2007, 02:34:34 PM_________________________________________________w ako nagkapuliki oi, walang tka gi-indulge kay pulos out of context imo views, nya kung ako pana ispecific samot ka malibog. ayaw nalang. for your sake man sab ni nuon.

[zyLe]

i'll let you know when I die..

[mr.ho_chia2]

i'll let you know when I die..

paita pud ana sir oi. ayaw ko apila ha. hehe.

[kalanrakas]

If someone ask you "Luwas na ba ka?", whats ur answer?

Naa man gud ko nasugatan sa una bah, limot ko unsa to sila na religion. First thing they will ask you is that "Naluwas na ba daw ka?".
If ikaw mapangutana ani, unsa imu tubag?

Luwas sa dengue.

[rcruman]

where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "faith without good deeds is dead"?
Peace!

here it is:
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:18,26

unsa to? unsa imo frequency dha kay magtuning sa ko. hehe. joke lang bro, ayaw pud seryoso kaayo kay matiguwang ka.
sober na bitaw ko, you doubt it? or you judging me?

I'm not judging you but I'm just showing you your statements and to reflect on it.

[br]Posted on: September 06, 2007, 02:30:09 PM_________________________________________________
naana sir. faith without work is dead. awa na ang pagbabalik.... the revenge of the hibernated rc ruman....... [br

Hibernated? do you mean nagpahulay ko?
Busy rako sa ako work og wala ko time pag visit sa istorya.net (6pm-6am ako duty karon).

dili nalang nako explain sir kay samot ka malibog. mao mao naman nuon. [

Kinsay malibog? pila ra pag-explain sa imo statement.

[br]Posted on: September 06, 2007, 02:34:34 PM_________________________________________________w ako nagkapuliki oi, walang tka gi-indulge kay pulos out of context imo views, nya kung ako pana ispecific samot ka malibog. ayaw nalang. for your sake man sab ni nuon.

ha indulge? wake up bro, kung out of context ko di sayon ra ang pagpakita nga sayop ko pero imo gibuhat likay.
Mura man kag bata nga sipat nya gidukol dayon dagan og sa layo sige syaget, "Behh, dili sakit".
Ako na hinuon ang nalibog nga ikaw gani mismo ang walay mahatag.
ANyway kung mao na imo pagtuo sa imo kaugalingon aw imo pud, claiming is one thing but proving is another thing.
Dili man ta maglibog kung verse by verse ato basehan dili kay sangyaw sa inyo pastor nga gikan sa iya kaugalingong pagtuo og experience. Let me tell you frankly bro sa tanan nimo giistorya wala kay gihatag nga basehan nga verse.
Murag imo sag-ulo kay ang wali ra sa inyo Born-again movement or fellowship pero walay verses.
Be biblical bro aron naa tay guide.

Peace!

[Ironside]

Where in the scriptures or verse in the bible that can be "righteous by faith alone"?

Peace!

Ro 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,



There are those who harass Christians with verses that SEEMINGLY contradict the clear Bible teaching that justification is by faith alone and not by works. They would try to make it appear before Christians that Romans is in collision with James. But nothing is further from the truth. The justification that James is talking about is merely an aspect of the wide doctrine of justification. It is not contradictory but complementary. Actually there are six aspects of justification. And I would like to present them here very briefly:


The Six aspects of justification




1) Justified by Grace

Ro 3:24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,


2) Justified by Faith

Ro 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

3) Justified by power [as exerted in the resurrection of Christ

Ro 4:25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification


4) Justified by God


Ro 8:33 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.


5) Justified by Christ’s blood


Ro 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.


6) Justified by works


Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.



Question: There are six aspects of justification, how do we put these together in a cohesive whole?

This: We are declared perfectly righteous by God by grace through receiving it by faith alone based on the blood of the Savior shed on the cross, through the power of God as exerted in the resurrection of Christ manifested to men by works.




Two Justifications : Before God and before men.



Study James in context [please] and you will see that James is talking about the latter. James has this idea:


Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works [in the eyes of men], and not by [profession of] faith only.



Oh yes, works can justify but not before God


Ro 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God


In the original Greek, there are no commas. Abraham maybe justified by works BUT NOT BEFORE GOD. He may have something to boast about BUT NOT BEFORE GOD.

If not before God can works justify then to whom can works justify? Before men. I am justified before God by faith alone in Christ alone. My brethren cannot see my faith in Christ alone that resides in my heart [since faith is invisible to the human eye] but they can see that I am indeed justified by the change in my life.


They cant see my heart whether I am truly a believer or not but they can see my actions and be able to say: "Ah this one is truly a believer in Christ. He has been justified all right. I can see it in his life. He is a genuine brother. He has shown me his faith by his works."

[nemmo723]

@ironside

the context you have placed before james, where did you get that?
and the romans chapters, do you understand it then that just thru faith we are justified?
what then is the justification when one believes yet still continues to sin?
by faith alone, irregardless of the actions of the person afterwards?
is that what the romans is telling?

[mr.ho_chia2]

@ rc ruman

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