Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Vedder]

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if mamugos jud ka that evolution is not directed by a certain intelligence, can you prove it?
if not, then that means theistic evolutionism is a valid approach. and you need to deal with it..
otherwise di ka mu survive diris kalibutan which is full of diversities..

LOL Yes...


Ani raman imong logic o ug kadalasan sa mga oplok na kristiyano.


"Kay wala ko kabalo sa tubag, mu diretso na lang ko sa magicx2 para naa koy tubag"


Ingon nimo sa imung profile that you like science? ay nata nimo dong, Dili ingun ana ang paagi sa science. Ang science mu investigate jud unya dili mu hatag ug conclusion hangtud walay evidence.


Unsay Scientific Basis anang "Theistic Evolution"? TUBAGA!

Ug asa napud tong gipangayo nako sa imuha na maski isa lang ka NON-Christian Scientist na mu recognize anang "Theistic Evolution"? UGOK AYAW CGEG LIKAYx2 DIHA BUGO.

[slakker]

science and bible

[Cebu Properties]

I do beliv and always beliv in bible

[brendomar]

whether we believe or not, God's word remains true.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall never pass away."

[noy]

LOL Yes...


Ani raman imong logic o ug kadalasan sa mga oplok na kristiyano.


"Kay wala ko kabalo sa tubag, mu diretso na lang ko sa magicx2 para naa koy tubag"


Ingon nimo sa imung profile that you like science? ay nata nimo dong, Dili ingun ana ang paagi sa science. Ang science mu investigate jud unya dili mu hatag ug conclusion hangtud walay evidence.


Unsay Scientific Basis anang "Theistic Evolution"? TUBAGA!

Ug asa napud tong gipangayo nako sa imuha na maski isa lang ka NON-Christian Scientist na mu recognize anang "Theistic Evolution"? UGOK AYAW CGEG LIKAYx2 DIHA BUGO.

nah..patay tanan oi!

ang question is can you prove that evolution is not directed by intelligence?
ang iomung tubag kay: Logic sa Christian "Kay wala ko kabalo sa tubag, mu diretso na lang ko sa magicx2 para naa koy tubag"..
nya, bright pa kaha ka ana? gipa prove ta ka oi nga evolution is not directed since mao man na imung assertion..hahahaha!

example, i know that evolution is not directed because...(hakyad dayun sa imung proof) simple ra kaayo..

scientific basis sa theistic evolution? hahahahaha! unsaon nako na pag tubag nga sayop man imung pangutana daan.
Theistic evolution is not a scientific theory..kapila man ni nako balik-balikon nga description na sa usa ka point of view...abi ko man ug bright ka?
it describes a point of view where a person believes Science and Bible does not contradict with each other. it is the perspective that holds biblical creation accounts are to be understood allegorically.

non-christian nga theistic evolutionist scientist? hahahaha! HOY! kabalo ka mubasa? gitubag na taka sa akong previous post.. #3543
"non-Christian Scientist who holds theistic evolution? LOL Christian perspective kanang Theistic evolution dong..
so kanang imung pag pangayo ug example of a non-Christian,theistic evolutionist scientist nagpaila kana nga wala ka kasabut aning mga butanga.."

oo brad, i like Science, Science never did conclude that God does not exist..
Scientific accounts only provide details about Nature.. and from that details, came various perspectives..naa nagingun nga dunay Dios tungod sa scientific findings and uban pud..muingon wala..simple ra kaayo..
kanang imung pag dumili sa pagtuo...way labut ang science ana..imoha na.
maikog ka sa Science oi..

bati pa ug batasan, wa pa juy buot muistorya, pa sweto2x pa = EPIC FAIL. dakla imung ulo dong.hahaha!

mao ni imung mga kinahanglan e-prove.

* Evolution is not directed
* only 1% from the actual population of Scientists believe in the Bible.

[Vedder]

nah..patay tanan oi!

ang question is can you prove that evolution is not directed by intelligence?
ang iomung tubag kay: Logic sa Christian "Kay wala ko kabalo sa tubag, mu diretso na lang ko sa magicx2 para naa koy tubag"..
nya, bright pa kaha ka ana? gipa prove ta ka oi nga evolution is not directed since mao man na imung assertion..hahahaha!

example, i know that evolution is not directed because...(hakyad dayun sa imung proof) simple ra kaayo..

scientific basis sa theistic evolution? hahahahaha! unsaon nako na pag tubag nga sayop man imung pangutana daan.
Theistic evolution is not a scientific theory..kapila man ni nako balik-balikon nga description na sa usa ka point of view...abi ko man ug bright ka?
it describes a point of view where a person believes Science and Bible does not contradict with each other. it is the perspective that holds biblical creation accounts are to be understood allegorically.

non-christian nga theistic evolutionist scientist? hahahaha! HOY! kabalo ka mubasa? gitubag na taka sa akong previous post.. #3543
"non-Christian Scientist who holds theistic evolution? LOL Christian perspective kanang Theistic evolution dong..
so kanang imung pag pangayo ug example of a non-Christian,theistic evolutionist scientist nagpaila kana nga wala ka kasabut aning mga butanga.."

oo brad, i like Science, Science never did conclude that God does not exist..
Scientific accounts only provide details about Nature.. and from that details, came various perspectives..naa nagingun nga dunay Dios tungod sa scientific findings and uban pud..muingon wala..simple ra kaayo..
kanang imung pag dumili sa pagtuo...way labut ang science ana..imoha na.
maikog ka sa Science oi..

bati pa ug batasan, wa pa juy buot muistorya, pa sweto2x pa = EPIC FAIL. dakla imung ulo dong.hahaha!

mao ni imung mga kinahanglan e-prove.

* Evolution is not directed
* only 1% from the actual population of Scientists believe in the Bible.

Na na buang na.

Ako na hinuon ang mo prove na dili na tinuod nang imaginary "intelligence" ninyo na ikaw nag claim ana, pagka-oplok jud nimo oi! hahaha!

Valid man kaha nang "Theistic" Evolution nimo diba?

if mamugos jud ka that evolution is not directed by a certain intelligence, can you prove it?
if not, then that means theistic evolutionism is a valid approach. and you need to deal with it..
otherwise di ka mu survive diris kalibutan which is full of diversities..

Nganung naka ingun man kang valid approach ni? unsay basehan nimo? Syempre naa jud kay basehan ani, kung wala basig gikan lang ni sa imung lubot hahahaha, pakit-i kog valid scientific basis ani kay naka ingun man ka na "I have to deal with it" I base my knowledge on Science so pakit-i kog Scientific Basis BUGO KA, kung wala kay mapakita aw gikan lang ni sa mga hokus pokus sa mga mangchupaay na bugong uto-utong pari ninyo hahaha.

Nganung e prove pa man nako na Evolution is not "directed" (lol) by your imaginary Sky Fairy na Universally recognized mana sa mainstream scientists? PAGKA OPLOK JUD NIMO hahahaha


Ikaw prove anang claim nimo na "Theistic Evolution" diba kay ingun ka na "I have to deal with it" O asa naman ang ebidensiya nimo? Ibutang diri, Kay sa scientific evidence ko naga base BUGO KA! hahaha

Unya mu ingun kag "I like Science" unya wala ka kabalo sa saktong pinaagi sa science pagka BUGO jud hahaha Ikaw ni ingun na "valid approach" nang theistic evolution nimo ikaw pakita ug ebidensiya? "I LOVE SCIENCE" diba ingun nimo? hahaha pag puyo oi POSER RA ka pa "I LOVE SCIENCE" kunuhay para ingnun bright? hahaha KOMEDYANTE MAN KA OI

So Christian Perspective ra diay nang "Theistic Evolution" Unya nganung naka ingun man ka na valid approach ni? Na inyuha raman diay na? Pwede na nako nang tawag "Thestic Delusion" kay wala man kay basehan, Apil apilon pa nimo nang theistic sa evolution wala man diay kay basehan bugoa ka inyuha inyuha raman diay na hahahaha VALID APPROACH SA IMUNG MATA BUGO hahaha

Ug kanang 1% nakit-an nako na sa isa ka scientific documentary, Reasonable na na percentage kay gamay ra jud kaayo sa mga Scientists na mu tuo anang fairytale kabuang ninyo, kanang mga small percentage sa mga scientists na mu tuo pag fairytale kay mga confused ra na, wala pa kaayo nila nasabtan ug maayo ang mga pamaagi, nangita lang ug shortcut na tubag sa ilahang mga pangutana, which is very unscientific.

Mao mao ra jud mo ka bugo ni slabdans, arang arang na ni si SioDenz kay maski bugo siya wala siya naga-pa bright bright, proud kaayo siya sa iyang ka bugo. Unya ikaw pangka na kaayong bugo mag pa bright bright pa jud mu ingun pag "I LOVE SCIENCE" unya wala kasabot ug science hahahahaha!

[noy]

Na na buang na.

Ako na hinuon ang mo prove na dili na tinuod nang imaginary "intelligence" ninyo na ikaw nag claim ana, pagka-oplok jud nimo oi! hahaha!

Valid man kaha nang "Theistic" Evolution nimo diba?



Nganung naka ingun man kang valid approach ni? unsay basehan nimo? Syempre naa jud kay basehan ani, kung wala basig gikan lang ni sa imung lubot hahahaha, pakit-i kog valid scientific basis ani kay naka ingun man ka na "I have to deal with it" I base my knowledge on Science so pakit-i kog Scientific Basis BUGO KA, kung wala kay mapakita aw gikan lang ni sa mga hokus pokus sa mga mangchupaay na bugong uto-utong pari ninyo hahaha.

Nganung e prove pa man nako na Evolution is not "directed" (lol) by your imaginary Sky Fairy na Universally recognized mana sa mainstream scientists? PAGKA OPLOK JUD NIMO hahahaha


Ikaw prove anang claim nimo na "Theistic Evolution" diba kay ingun ka na "I have to deal with it" O asa naman ang ebidensiya nimo? Ibutang diri, Kay sa scientific evidence ko naga base BUGO KA! hahaha

Unya mu ingun kag "I like Science" unya wala ka kabalo sa saktong pinaagi sa science pagka BUGO jud hahaha Ikaw ni ingun na "valid approach" nang theistic evolution nimo ikaw pakita ug ebidensiya? "I LOVE SCIENCE" diba ingun nimo? hahaha pag puyo oi POSER RA ka pa "I LOVE SCIENCE" kunuhay para ingnun bright? hahaha KOMEDYANTE MAN KA OI

So Christian Perspective ra diay nang "Theistic Evolution" Unya nganung naka ingun man ka na valid approach ni? Na inyuha raman diay na? Pwede na nako nang tawag "Thestic Delusion" kay wala man kay basehan, Apil apilon pa nimo nang theistic sa evolution wala man diay kay basehan bugoa ka inyuha inyuha raman diay na hahahaha VALID APPROACH SA IMUNG MATA BUGO hahaha

Ug kanang 1% nakit-an nako na sa isa ka scientific documentary, Reasonable na na percentage kay gamay ra jud kaayo sa mga Scientists na mu tuo anang fairytale kabuang ninyo, kanang mga small percentage sa mga scientists na mu tuo pag fairytale kay mga confused ra na, wala pa kaayo nila nasabtan ug maayo ang mga pamaagi, nangita lang ug shortcut na tubag sa ilahang mga pangutana, which is very unscientific.

Mao mao ra jud mo ka bugo ni slabdans, arang arang na ni si SioDenz kay maski bugo siya wala siya naga-pa bright bright, proud kaayo siya sa iyang ka bugo. Unya ikaw pangka na kaayong bugo mag pa bright bright pa jud mu ingun pag "I LOVE SCIENCE" unya wala kasabot ug science hahahahaha!

sus..daghang patutsada..tubag diha ug tarong..bogo2x..bright...ig-a ang punto dong..ay sig tago2x sa imung pina way grado nga sinultihan..
basi sa imung mga tubag..wa diay ka kasabut..sige let me break it down for you..hahaha...

like others who see no conflict between science and Bible, i believe evolution as something guided/directed.

despite of all the changes earth has gone through the past billions of years,
with everything that has survived,evolved and became extinct.
how is it that everything seems to fall right into their places? how is it that every tiny bit of creation that we see or at least the ones that we know of have its purpose?
how is it that we can say, oh right..it's a good thing Dinos became extinct before we came in the picture
for had they not, then we'd probably be the ones who are in history..
how do we explain the time arrangement or the order of things?

Natural Selection? although this seems rational. as everything was indeed laid over naturally..
but what is in QUESTION really is the ORDER OF THINGS? how everything compliments from one another..
from predators to prey, from plants to animals, animals to humans, humans to plants..yada yada yada...
how is it that despite the process is RANDOM, we get SPCIFIC RESULTS?

i have explained to you why i believe evolution is directed.
now it's your turn to prove that there's no intelligence behind evolution. you need to prove that evolution is not directed simply because it hasn't been proven as such. evolution as something that is not directed is just another perspective and not an absolute fact. no more than the idea that suggests evolution is guided.
and until nothing is proven in absolute terms. every perspective that hasn't been utterly refuted is a valid approach.

wa koy paki-alam ug asa na nimu gikuha imung 1%, i need you to show your resources for cross referencing.

in your next post, i would expect your refutation that evolution is guided as proof that there's indeed no intelligence behind evolution. also, the actual statistics showing actual population of scientists and their respective religious views.
pag wala gani gihapun.. it would mean nga wala kay ikatubag. paka uwaw ra ka sa taga lacion.

[Vedder]

sus..daghang patutsada..tubag diha ug tarong..bogo2x..bright...ig-a ang punto dong..ay sig tago2x sa imung pina way grado nga sinultihan..
basi sa imung mga tubag..wa diay ka kasabut..sige let me break it down for you..hahaha...

like others who see no conflict between science and Bible, i believe evolution as something guided/directed.

despite of all the changes earth has gone through the past billions of years,
with everything that has survived,evolved and became extinct.
how is it that everything seems to fall right into their places? how is it that every tiny bit of creation that we see or at least the ones that we know of have its purpose?
how is it that we can say, oh right..it's a good thing Dinos became extinct before we came in the picture
for had they not, then we'd probably be the ones who are in history..
how do we explain the time arrangement or the order of things?

Natural Selection? although this seems rational. as everything was indeed laid over naturally..
but what is in QUESTION really is the ORDER OF THINGS? how everything compliments from one another..
from predators to prey, from plants to animals, animals to humans, humans to plants..yada yada yada...
how is it that despite the process is RANDOM, we get SPCIFIC RESULTS?

i have explained to you why i believe evolution is directed.
now it's your turn to prove that there's no intelligence behind evolution. you need to prove that evolution is not directed simply because it hasn't been proven as such. evolution as something that is not directed is just another perspective and not an absolute fact. no more than the idea that suggests evolution is guided.
and until nothing is proven in absolute terms. every perspective that hasn't been utterly refuted is a valid approach.

wa koy paki-alam ug asa na nimu gikuha imung 1%, i need you to show your resources for cross referencing.

in your next post, i would expect your refutation that evolution is guided as proof that there's indeed no intelligence behind evolution. also, the actual statistics showing actual population of scientists and their respective religious views.
pag wala gani gihapun.. it would mean nga wala kay ikatubag. paka uwaw ra ka sa taga lacion.

Peste ka bugo, kabalo naman diay ka sa tubag, NATURAL SELECTION, The strong shall live the weak shall cease to exist. The PROCESS OF EVOLUTION.

OPLOK, Gi libog libog ra nimo imong kaugalingon tungod anang relihiyon nimo, Gusto nimo mu linya ang history sa imong pag tuo. BUGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ug kanang Dinosaur it was just LUCK that a massive asteriod crashed on earth mao na extinct sila.

Pagka bugo nimo dong. Dili na kailangan ug taas pa na reply, dali ra kaayo e rebutt imong ka bugo hahahahaa

[noy]

Peste ka bugo, kabalo naman diay ka sa tubag, NATURAL SELECTION, The strong shall live the weak shall cease to exist. The PROCESS OF EVOLUTION.

OPLOK, Gi libog libog ra nimo imong kaugalingon tungod anang relihiyon nimo, Gusto nimo mu linya ang history sa imong pag tuo. BUGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ug kanang Dinosaur it was just LUCK that a massive asteriod crashed on earth mao na extinct sila.

Pagka bugo nimo dong. Dili na kailangan ug taas pa na reply, dali ra kaayo e rebutt imong ka bugo hahahahaa

dah daan ko pa lagi..wa juy tubag...hahaha! paita..

how does survival of the fittest proves that evolution is not directed?

Natural selection via random process.. natural in the sense that everything has been laid over naturally in accordance with the LAWS of nature(apil na nang survival of the fittest..this is how animals adapted and evolved due to unavoidable circumstances hangtud nga ning evolve into certain level of intelligence that this nature no longer applies...therefore fulfilled..mao kita isip tao rational beings na ta..ikaw mura pa man lage ka ug animal ug kinaiya?hahaha! kuwang siguro imung evolution..adto puyo sa kalasangan oi) and of course..the very famous "random process" random as being seemingly unpredictable..this process however is traceable..mao nang na determine nato that there are indeed Laws that nature follows.

mao ingun ko, what's in question really is the ORDER OF THINGS! ay na sigeg likay2x diha...

where is your proof that evolution is not directed? asa na ang statistics? daghang istorya way ayo! panilhig usa kay imung utok nagkalat..

[Vedder]

dah daan ko pa lagi..wa juy tubag...hahaha! paita..

how does survival of the fittest proves that evolution is not directed?

Natural selection via random process.. natural in the sense that everything has been laid over naturally in accordance with the LAWS of nature(apil na nang survival of the fittest..this is how animals adapted and evolved due to unavoidable circumstances hangtud nga ning evolve into certain level of intelligence that this nature no longer applies...therefore fulfilled..mao kita isip tao rational beings na ta..ikaw mura pa man lage ka ug animal ug kinaiya?hahaha! kuwang siguro imung evolution..adto puyo sa kalasangan oi) and of course..the very famous "random process" random as being seemingly unpredictable..this process however is traceable..mao nang na determine nato that there are indeed Laws that nature follows.

mao ingun ko, what's in question really is the ORDER OF THINGS! ay na sigeg likay2x diha...

where is your proof that evolution is not directed? asa na ang statistics? daghang istorya way ayo! panilhig usa kay imung utok nagkalat..

Bugo wa ka kasabot ug evolution, Evolution is Natural Selection that triggers genetic mutation that is needed for survival, Trial and Error sad na, ang species na dili maka survive sa isa ka lugar mamatay, ang maka survive mao tong mabilin BUGO! Dili na random process tanga.

Random process sa imong mata asa na nimo napunit? HAHAHAHAHA BUGO JUD mura kag korek diha bugoa ka. Order of Things? WALAY ORDER OF THINGS BUGO! Order of things sa imung mata asa nasad na nimo napunit? hahaha

Again gusto lang nimo e align imong fairytale belief sa realidad, mao mangita jud kag mga "catchy phrases" pariha anang "Order of Things" para ma justify imuhang fairytale imaginary belief. BULOK

Again dili nasad kailangan ug taas na reply kay dali ra kaayo e rebutt imong ka BUGO! hahaha

BUGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO