Bisaya Gina dili sa Negosyo

[yawertzra]

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Karon lang ni gabhiona gyud guys.

Ang mga empleyado sa SM Appliance sa SM City CEBU kay gi hatagan ug order karon lang gabhiona sa ilang manager nga si Wilson Uy nga gina dili na mo gamit sa sinultiang bisaya ang mga empleyado sa SM Appliance CEBU kay tungod dili kini pormal nga pinulungan ug mas presentable kuno sa mga customer kung tagalog ang gamit nga lingwahi nga gamiton. So kung ma bisita mo sa SM appliance karong mga sunod adlaw ayaw mo kahibulungan nga tagalogan mo sa mga empleyado bisan nga pareho kamong bisaya.

Sa akong huna2x lain nasad ni nga pag tamak-tamak sa pinulungang bisaya kay kini si Walu Uy taga manila kini. Kuyaw nga mao ni sundon sa ubang mga kompanya dinhi sa Cebu nga gi Manage ug mga kolokoy ug utok nga mga tagalog. Ug nganong dili man kuno pormal ang bisaya? Ug kay nganong patagalogon man nga bisaya raman sad ang mga tawo dinhi sa cebu! Kung naa man gani mga tagalog kamao man sad ta mo tagalog, labaw na kung foreigner kay mas maau pa ta mo english kaysa ilahang mga tagalog! Para nako mas maau pa gani paminawon ang pinulungang bisaya kaysa tagalog!

Unsa inyong ikasulti bahin ani?

Kanang Manager maoy angay himuong persona non grata!
paka ulaw sa mga Visayan-Cebuano people!

[salbahis]

Karon lang ni gabhiona gyud guys.

Ang mga empleyado sa SM Appliance sa SM City CEBU kay gi hatagan ug order karon lang gabhiona sa ilang manager nga si Wilson Uy nga gina dili na mo gamit sa sinultiang bisaya ang mga empleyado sa SM Appliance CEBU kay tungod dili kini pormal nga pinulungan ug mas presentable kuno sa mga customer kung tagalog ang gamit nga lingwahi nga gamiton. So kung ma bisita mo sa SM appliance karong mga sunod adlaw ayaw mo kahibulungan nga tagalogan mo sa mga empleyado bisan nga pareho kamong bisaya.

Sa akong huna2x lain nasad ni nga pag tamak-tamak sa pinulungang bisaya kay kini si Walu Uy taga manila kini. Kuyaw nga mao ni sundon sa ubang mga kompanya dinhi sa Cebu nga gi Manage ug mga kolokoy ug utok nga mga tagalog. Ug nganong dili man kuno pormal ang bisaya? Ug kay nganong patagalogon man nga bisaya raman sad ang mga tawo dinhi sa cebu! Kung naa man gani mga tagalog kamao man sad ta mo tagalog, labaw na kung foreigner kay mas maau pa ta mo english kaysa ilahang mga tagalog! Para nako mas maau pa gani paminawon ang pinulungang bisaya kaysa tagalog!

Unsa inyong ikasulti bahin ani?

hadlok na nga dili kasbot ug bisaya basin gilibak siya sa mga empleyado...

[lestat1116]

ang question is this true?

[emow]

Are you kidding me?

Laws were written to prevent discrimination and for those who do, for them to be punished. Talk to your lawyer friends.

States and cities make legislations and by laws, and citizens and businesses have to comply. For example, VAT was imposed on certain goods which were sold and businesses have to pay up. Are you saying that's discrimination?

Sure businesses can oppose such laws, and challenge it in court, but if the SC says it is not unconstitutional, then it stays and businesses have to comply. That's not discrimination.

Unbelievable.

Offtopic: unbelievable? You might be operating on the mainstream mindset that laws are good by its mere existence. Yes, they should be followed inspite of some of them being immoral otherwise face unnecessary persecution or bear huge losses and incovenience. You see, laws are force, and the government monopolizes that force. Other than the legitimate function of laws of protecting life, liberty and property, any other function it supposes necessarily violate its legitimate function.

I do not operate on the idea that just because it is a law, it is necessarily just. Thats why i ask you on the fundamental level. If you stick that it depends on state laws or city laws. That might mean if a majority will pass a law that will deny you of certain rights in your own property, you might still be blind to the injustice that have been done to you.

As for your example on VAT, customers pay vat, not businesses. Vat is not discrimination, it is theft and anti poor. Vat was passed to help the economy of the country during the time when its reserves are almost depleted. However, when the economy recovered, vat was not repealed but was expanded further to 12%.

[fretburner]

@fretburner referring to post #192 ....business establishments have rights to deny access to anyone for valid reasons(like the shirt and jean scenario)....as to the wheelchair law or PWD law, this pretty much pertains to the buildings and not the store itself since they are merely tenants and have no authority on the design of the structure...

as to post #197 , what? I was making a point on the right of the business to deny entry(as stated above) --asa gikan ang starbucks? :P
and yes you can wear a bikini to work if your job descriptions says so or if it is appropriate(bar, beach, resort etc..)

S&R, in case you don't know, is a membership shopping business. Their merchandise, are discounted because you already paid up front. Paying for any goods and service like in Starbucks is the same, albeit you don't pay up front for a year, but pay per transaction. It's just a different business model.

Who owns the SM Cebu City building? Isn't it SM as well?

Bottomline, business doesn't have a free hand and they have to comply to City and State laws.

And yes, I mentioned bikinis in the office because there's such a thing as being appropriate. Cities and States don't really need to write laws about specific matters, and would leave that up to the businesses.

Again, businesses have rights, but citizens have rights too. Citizens can protest, boycott, or go to court against businesses, and businesses can go to court against the City or State.

Dili mahimo na nga basta business decision, wala na dayon labot ang mga tawo. Mao ra na Ang akong gibalik balik ug type diri.

Kung di ka kasabot ana, hala pakigistorya sa uban.

[fretburner]

Offtopic: unbelievable? You might be operating on the mainstream mindset that laws are good by its mere existence. Yes, they should be followed inspite of some of them being immoral otherwise face unnecessary persecution or bear huge losses and incovenience. You see, laws are force, and the government monopolizes that force. Other than the legitimate function of laws of protecting life, liberty and property, any other function it supposes necessarily violate its legitimate function.

I do not operate on the idea that just because it is a law, it is necessarily just. Thats why i ask you on the fundamental level. If you stick that it depends on state laws or city laws. That might mean if a majority will pass a law that will deny you of certain rights in your own property, you might still be blind to the injustice that have been done to you.

As for your example on VAT, customers pay vat, not businesses. Vat is not discrimination, it is theft and anti poor. Vat was passed to help the economy of the country during the time when its reserves are almost depleted. However, when the economy recovered, vat was not repealed but was expanded further to 12%.

Laws in this country are laws. Whether you like them or not, you have to follow them. Whether or not they're just, you have to comply.

All you can do once it's signed and put in force, is to challenge it in court and try to have it repealed.

Do I like every law in this country? Hell no! Do I follow them anyway? Absolutely!

You must be living in a different country.

The UK for example, doesn't even have a written constitution and they have what we call "common law". People can go to jail even if there's no law written for it. The Philippines is different.

[Crinkles11]

Pag basa ug tarong.

That was cited because businesses can't just take matters on their own hands. They have to comply.

Kabalo ta ana, ang atong giistoryahan diri, kabahin sa pagmando sa amo ni TS ngadto sa iyang mga sakop sa pagtinagalog panahon sa oras ting trabaho.

Unsa may nakitang sayop nimo ani?

[digitalsuperman]

Basin sa Lain nga SM to ila pasabot bro - Sano Mall

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File ug resolution, himuon Persona Non Grata si Wilson Uy....

hehe.mao. gikan rako didto palit kog radyo. pwerte man nila bisdaka.

[juck401]

Mahal btaw sab ang sm appliance, daghan silang payment options like credit card, or installments, mao rapod ako na observe

[fretburner]

Kabalo ta ana, ang atong giistoryahan diri, kabahin sa pagmando sa amo ni TS ngadto sa iyang mga sakop sa pagtinagalog panahon sa oras ting trabaho.

Unsa may nakitang sayop nimo ani?

Legalities aside, it's a mistake.

Sayop sya kay imong gi-alienate imong tawo ug customers. Mas dali mobaligya mung parehas mo ug pinulungan. Mas motivated sad ang tawo kung dili nimo bawalan mkistorya sa local language kung dili man sya detrimental sa trabaho. Ako mismo, di ko ganahan motrabaho sa kumpanya nga daghan kaayo ginadili.

Monaog ba sales ninyo kung magbinisaya o dili? Mas professional ba gyud ang Filipino kontra Bisaya? Ang tubag: dili.