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[fretburner]

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nganong naabot man ka ug wheelchair law bro?

Pag basa ug tarong.

That was cited because businesses can't just take matters on their own hands. They have to comply.

[fretburner]

@fretburner:
There you go, the public can boycott. So theres really no point in regulating discrimination. Any business have the right to discriminate, like customers have the right to discriminate against businesses as well. Whether to their benefit or ruin, thats their concern. Now, you have touched on city and state laws, most of which are useless, stupid, or problematic.

Touching on laws complicates issues without understanding the purpose of laws. The mere existence of any law doesnt make it morally right if it violates the very function of the law, that is to protect life, liberty, and property. Every man is entitled to exercise his liberty in any way he wishes so long as it doesnt prevent others from exercising their rights. Whether the result of his liberty results to profit or ruin, that is his fate. No man has the right to infringe on another mans liberty even if it results to the latters demise.

I will ask you again, fundamentally, who has more rights to the business. The business or outside people?

Ps: that wheel chair law violates the rights of the business if it is as what you have posted.

Are you kidding me?

Laws were written to prevent discrimination and for those who do, for them to be punished. Talk to your lawyer friends.

States and cities make legislations and by laws, and citizens and businesses have to comply. For example, VAT was imposed on certain goods which were sold and businesses have to pay up. Are you saying that's discrimination?

Sure businesses can oppose such laws, and challenge it in court, but if the SC says it is not unconstitutional, then it stays and businesses have to comply. That's not discrimination.

Unbelievable.

[Crinkles11]

Pag basa ug tarong.

That was cited because businesses can't just take matters on their own hands. They have to comply.

Naa diay balaud sa cebu bro nga dili pwd makamando ang employer sa iyang mga sakop arun pagtinagawg? Tagae daw ko ug link ana nga balaud.

[ghil]

kalain pud aning magtagalog ta maski parihas mo bisaya. mo-come in na noon ang miscommunication ana. pwede raman ta moistorya maski unsa basta magkasinabot lang ba.

[fretburner]

Again, it was an example. And read carefully.

I was the first to say I was NOT sure if there's a law against "regional discrimination ". And even there was, I am NOT even sure if what the manager did was in fact discrimination.

What I was telling you and the other guy is that just because it was a business decision, that does NOT mean people outside of that company (business ) can't say and should not saying anything.

Let me give you another example...

If a business specifically disallows non-Tagalogs to apply for a job in Manila, even if the Cebuano/Bisaya job-hunter can speak Tagalog, then can people not say anything against this company and this rule, simply because they're not employees?

Unta klaro na na. Kay di nako gusto binisayon tanan nako gitype. Kung di pa gyud ka kasabot, moundang na ko.

[RenDLC]

@fretburner S&R only sells to those who are members....isn't that a form of discrimination? (also take note that some business establishments are exclusive wherein not everyone can just go in or ask to be a member---bcoz it is their right---imagine eating in a luxury resto where you are just wearing a shirt and jeans...they have a right to deny entry)

[fretburner]

@fretburner S&R only sells to those who are members....isn't that a form of discrimination? (also take note that some business establishments are exclusive wherein not everyone can just go in or ask to be a member---bcoz it is their right---imagine eating in a luxury resto where you are just wearing a shirt and jeans...they have a right to deny entry)

Coffee in Starbucks is also not free. You have to pay. You also cannot wear a bikini to work. What's your point?

[archspace]

atoa lang paspasan ang storya.. balik2x naman inyong points.

isa daw kamot kinsay mo dare ug apil2x ani na isyu and mo kugi jud og atubang sa tag-iya sa sm kay bati ilang balaod.
anisay nlng ta.

if naa man gani mo dare. hatagan nko ug jacket. haha

[RenDLC]

@fretburner referring to post #192 ....business establishments have rights to deny access to anyone for valid reasons(like the shirt and jean scenario)....as to the wheelchair law or PWD law, this pretty much pertains to the buildings and not the store itself since they are merely tenants and have no authority on the design of the structure...

as to post #197 , what? I was making a point on the right of the business to deny entry(as stated above) --asa gikan ang starbucks? :P
and yes you can wear a bikini to work if your job descriptions says so or if it is appropriate(bar, beach, resort etc..)

[7DMM]

use what's needed. speak cebuano kung mga taga region 7 and other provinces that speaks bisaya then tagalog or english for the rest. simple as that.

at the office we speak cebuano, tagalog, english, some waray waray, ilonggo and ilocano. that's how diverse our "mix" here as a result of personnel from other regions being assigned here. we get to learn each other's dialect and encourage others to learn cebuano without being pushy or forcing them.