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  1. #1071

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    But God did not create him in his fallen state. He made himself fall.
    this might be crazy to you guys but yeah lucifer exist as well heheheheeh...

  2. #1072
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Ang giingon man gud sa theists migo that God created the fallen angel Lucifer, the master of evil
    While God created the great angel Lucifer (a thing) who ultimately became satan when he chose to disobey,God didn’t know in advance that Lucifer would fall. Evil (not a thing) in itself was not created by God. Evil as a deed was created by satan.Here we can see freedom of choice. He was created to be good but he himself choose evil instead. Some may argue that since God is all knowing, he surely have known what will become of Lucifer.Some people may expound on these which could likely result in an irritating arguments and name calling.Freedom of choice again, anybody's call.

  3. #1073
    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    While God created the great angel Lucifer (a thing) who ultimately became satan when he chose to disobey,God didn’t know in advance that Lucifer would fall. Evil (not a thing) in itself was not created by God. Evil as a deed was created by satan.Here we can see freedom of choice. He was created to be good but he himself choose evil instead. Some may argue that since God is all knowing, he surely have known what will become of Lucifer.Some people may expound on these which could likely result in an irritating arguments and name calling.Freedom of choice again, anybody's call.
    i agree to this quantum.. evil exist when u dont have god in your heart. lucifer lost god in his heart so he became evil.

  4. #1074
    Quote Originally Posted by anubiz View Post
    being gay is not a sin. its what they do made tham a sinner. but thats just what i think
    Para nako lifestyle man na sya gud.. di tingali na sya matawag nga sala pero kon magpabilin ka diha eventually makasala jud ka.

  5. #1075
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Para nako lifestyle man na sya gud.. di tingali na sya matawag nga sala pero kon magpabilin ka diha eventually makasala jud ka.
    sakto.. hahaha i think ilahang sexual act man ang maka cause nila ug sala.

  6. #1076
    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    While God created the great angel Lucifer (a thing) who ultimately became satan when he chose to disobey,God didn’t know in advance that Lucifer would fall.
    so your god could not foresee the future meaning your god is not omniscient..

    in short, your god is not perfect...checkmate

    basta christian, bogo

  7. #1077
    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    While God created the great angel Lucifer (a thing) who ultimately became satan when he chose to disobey,God didn’t know in advance that Lucifer would fall. Evil (not a thing) in itself was not created by God. Evil as a deed was created by satan.Here we can see freedom of choice. He was created to be good but he himself choose evil instead. Some may argue that since God is all knowing, he surely have known what will become of Lucifer.Some people may expound on these which could likely result in an irritating arguments and name calling.Freedom of choice again, anybody's call.
    God saw it coming. He just allowed it. Why did God allow it? For His glory.

  8. #1078
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    No need to argue further to Siodenz who is SCARED to provide SOLID proof of his God's existence.
    Another question for the theists...
    Why do some Christians condemn homosexuality when it is clear that God made gays and he loves people all the same?
    do you by any chance know what you're talking about? You may wanna shake hands with Genesis

  9. #1079
    God did not create evil because he does not exist.

  10. #1080
    Quote Originally Posted by anubiz View Post
    god exist and made everything in perfect harmony using math to design everything... from the amino acid in your dna to the number of petals in the flower to the exac positioning of our planet earth from the sun. everything is in harmony. everything is not a coincidence. evolution is already debunked. and you should thank god for you existence in this planet.
    Quote Originally Posted by anubiz View Post
    sir try daw research about fine-tuning unya dugay na na debunked ang theory of evolution.. theory rana cya dili na fact ha. kay wala pay naka prove nga ni evolve ta gikan sa mga ungoy. Unya kanang mga fossil2 or mga skeleton2 nga gipakita sa mga evolutionist sa mga ungoy na dili na sa mga tao nga ni evolve gyud. then ang mga main stream nga mga scientest may ang e aprove ana nila kana rasang acceptable sa main stream science. dayo nkana sang sa national geographic main stream media mana so mao sad ilaha gi feed sa atoa. bisan unsa nga klasi sa skul pwedi na e recreate bisan unsay gusto nga ipa kita sa producer sa documentary samot na sa nat. geo. uu 98% sa atoang DNA same sa mga prime apes pero 2% is like 200 ka books nga mga DNA codes not sure though pero something like that.. dako kaayo na nga deperencya. by the way ang saging 95% sa DNA ana same sa atoa pero dili ta gikan sa saging basin maka huna2 sad ka nga ni evolve ta gikan sa saging hehehe... dili ni gikan sa bible akoa gi sulti diri pero base ni sa studies.

    ebidencya sa Ginoo hmmm sagpaa imohang kaugalingun ugma ka feel ka ug sakit meaning naay ginoo.
    Unsa may labot anang sagpaan nimo ang imong kaugalingon para makafeel ug sakit migo? kafeel man jud ta ug sakit kai naa may free nerve endings atong lawas.
    Naa ka linked migo sa imong gipost? maaio pa ka migo nitoo nga ang evolution debunked, pero si late Pope John Paul II nitoo sa evolution
    POPE JOHN PAUL II EMBRACES EVOLUTION!! - Christian Updates - New World Order. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse View Post
    do you by any chance know what you're talking about? You may wanna shake hands with Genesis
    Who's Genesis miga? Did you get your ex back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    While God created the great angel Lucifer (a thing) who ultimately became satan when he chose to disobey,God didn’t know in advance that Lucifer would fall. Evil (not a thing) in itself was not created by God. Evil as a deed was created by satan.Here we can see freedom of choice. He was created to be good but he himself choose evil instead. Some may argue that since God is all knowing, he surely have known what will become of Lucifer.Some people may expound on these which could likely result in an irritating arguments and name calling.Freedom of choice again, anybody's call.
    Ahhh, so your God isn't omnipotent migo

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    lol.. God made gays? absurd claim.. Yes he loves them but He is just at the same time. The wages of sin is death. Homosexuality is perversion.. an insult to the creator.. Sorry if that's offensive to some people but that's what it is.
    So meaning migo God will punish the gays?

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