Yolanda survivor on Pnoy propaganda: "GINAMIT LANG AKO..."

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I beg to disagree miss, kay daku ang role sa govt para makabangon ang Tacloban. Oo naay mga tao nga nakabangon pero di sa Tacloban, parehas akong ig agaw, nibalik nalang sila diri sa Cebu kay ila balay naguba, iya company nga gi trabahoan sa una sa Tacloban wala na. Mao na sa Manila ug Cebu nikalit lang kadaghan tao kay daghan nang migrate from Tacloban.

Mao unta na ila huna hunaon ibalik pabarog ang Tacloban para mamalik mga tao didto.

[Romeojin]

Ikaw sir tuo gyud diay ka na wala gyud tabang ang gobyerno sa ilaha? Sound like a Pro-pNoy ko sir kay ang akoang stand defies the norm to keep blaming the government... But sir the single account of a particular "mang pete" cannot discount the possibility that the government did what they're supposed to do... Remember, what we have there in Tacloban were the Romualdez's and there was a history of political feud between the Aquino's... Therefore there is a huge possibility that there might be some manipulation going on. Now kung ang usa ka Mang Pete nagpagamit by not telling the truth at the very beginning, there will be a lot of "Mang Pete" out there that were willing to be used by any of those political crooks for his personal benefit... I have my sympathy sa loss ni Mang Pete, but definitely not of what he did... Imagine nagpagamit siya, what if Mang Pete was given a hundred of thousand pesos by the government, do you think na mogawas pa ni na issue?

Wala ko nilaban sa gobyerno, pero gatoo ko na naay tabang na ilahang gipadala.. pero wa ko kabalo if the local government ug ni-response ba and distributed the goods according to a correct process and the correct information...

mao na na dili nato dapat isirado atuang hunahuna sa possibilities kay pwede ra gyud ta i-manipulate sad both side of our government... If Aquino is guilty ug allow ta mosagpa sa iyaha, ako ang una na motaas kamot para mosagpa niya, kana if he is proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt...

Mao na ang akoang campaign sir, "Dili na ta pagamit ug ni bisan kinsa sir." If you were pushed to tell a lie and you lied, expect that promise will also be a lie.

Too bad sir dili lang na na issue sir na daghan mopush sa mga tao to hate the government sir... Ang mga dagkong tae sir mao ray nagduwa duwa sa atuang mga emosyon sir... Hopefully na dili ka usa sa dagkong tae sir and your only intensyon is to flame us to hate the government para lang sa imohang kaugalingon na interest sir...

Igo lang man tana nimo pangutan-on ang mga taga Tacloban kung nindot ba ilang response. Believe me failed ang grade ng gobyerno, wa ko kadungong singing praise on Penoy's action from people taga didto.

Ikaw ayaw pagmanipulate pud... klaro man tuta ka ni Penoy. Im sure kung si Binay naghandle adto Im sure grabeh kaayo imong bagulbol.


Si penoy kapila nag lied... tuo gihapon lagi ka kita ka sa report ni Anderson Cooper and from other international media? ayaw ko ingna gibayran na sila ni Romualdez

[The_JACKAL]

^^ Tuyok-tuyokon lang ka ana niya boss, wala japon na syay sense ka debate kay mostly iyang post mga ingon ana jud na klase.

[emberjim]

| welcome back Romeo, abot na diay ka from your business trip... Again you barge in na sad na wala nimo nasabtan ang sulod sa akuang gipanulti... Kay lageh tuta daw ni Pnoy, sure na gyud na pro jud ang response noh? without trying to absorb the thoughts noh... Pahuway sa, basin dizzy pa ka sa byahe... The right after the tragedy report sir? did they ever blame the President or the Government? if they do, then they have no idea about our capacity as a nation. How comes you expect and compare our government responses to the first world country... Third world lang ta sir, if you didn't realized that...

And Jackal, sama na sa ako giingon, ikaw ray gapatuyok sa imo kaugalingon... Lipong na ka so di na ka ka-absorb sa uban na input sa mga tao... Don't put your eyes at the center of your focal point lageh, lingi-lingi sad usahay,and learn how to decipher a pasumbingay...

[Romeojin]

| welcome back Romeo, abot na diay ka from your business trip... Again you barge in na sad na wala nimo nasabtan ang sulod sa akuang gipanulti... Kay lageh tuta daw ni Pnoy, sure na gyud na pro jud ang response noh? without trying to absorb the thoughts noh... Pahuway sa, basin dizzy pa ka sa byahe... The right after the tragedy report sir? did they ever blame the President or the Government? if they do, then they have no idea about our capacity as a nation. How comes you expect and compare our government responses to the first world country... Third world lang ta sir, if you didn't realized that...

Kabalik na ko gyud, but im keeping tab on what you are posting.


I think I had full grasps of what you are saying.

1. Dont discredit si Mang Pete na hes not telling the truth, like I said ask any people from Tacloban kung how truthful iyang gi pang sulti. klaro na pud sa international news ang situation didto, even pila na ka months after naa pay news ang CNN about sa relief operations didto.

kana ganing official death toll, gamyan gyud sila ana considering several baranggay na wipeout.

2. Dont bring Romualdez ani, kung true naay solid national respone they wouldnt be talking of the Romualdez cause IN CHARGE ANG NATIONAL GOVT, kanang whats left of Romualdez city govt nag aide lang sila on their own way.

3. Surely they blame the slow post Yolanda response and slow overall relief (not relief goods ).

4. No one said that response should be first world, even the previous admins had better response time. Problem with the current govt ipangambog ang preparations then mag-una2x sa zero casualties, in the end palpak. Sunod mag-used lang ug pipila ka tawo to make up with bad publicity and yet they have nothing to show for at the end of the day.

showbiz govt gyud.

[emberjim]

Kabalik na ko gyud, but im keeping tab on what you are posting.


I think I had full grasps of what you are saying.

1. Dont discredit si Mang Pete na hes not telling the truth, like I said ask any people from Tacloban kung how truthful iyang gi pang sulti. klaro na pud sa international news ang situation didto, even pila na ka months after naa pay news ang CNN about sa relief operations didto.

kana ganing official death toll, gamyan gyud sila ana considering several baranggay na wipeout.

2. Dont bring Romualdez ani, kung true naay solid national respone they wouldnt be talking of the Romualdez cause IN CHARGE ANG NATIONAL GOVT, kanang whats left of Romualdez city govt nag aide lang sila on their own way.

3. Surely they blame the slow post Yolanda response and slow overall relief (not relief goods ).

4. No one said that response should be first world, even the previous admins had better response time. Problem with the current govt ipangambog ang preparations then mag-una2x sa zero casualties, in the end palpak. Sunod mag-used lang ug pipila ka tawo to make up with bad publicity and yet they have nothing to show for at the end of the day.

showbiz govt gyud.

Aw mao bah? I partially agree kay wa man sad gyud ko sa Tacloban, wa sad ko sa mood ron...
Slow over all relief, kay after nitabang kunohay ang mga tao as volunteers they were now busy asking the where the governments aid... The reason why other country were able to settle down faster after the calamity, because they moved on with their lives the day where there is no such thing as relief goods where provided to them... In the other hand we Filipino tend to wait, kay hangtod naa pay lapok sa atuang kadalanan tungod sa bagyo we consider ourselves as still a victim, so unsaon man na ron? Slow or just simply not moving on?

Why not talk about the Romualdez? It could also be a bad reasoning ngano walay tabang na niabot sa ila, and that is consider as the administration's bad doings... But you can't also pull out the possibility that Romualdez don't recognized the help because the Administration is Aquino's... Believe me, they were all but BS, so you can't simply point your finger to a single person, that is what I mean... But the fact that Mang Pete allow himself to be used for any reason, that is where I see some faults... kay kung naay magpagamit, aw naa sad gyud manggamit...


Busa kamo diha, ayaw na mo pagamit sa kay bisan kinsa, kay ang kantidad na ilahang ihatag sa inyoha kuwang pa kaau para iparepair sa inyohang bulsa...

Showbiz Government indeed, so filthy rich people take a spot and be a part of it... Unluckily some of them failed to get the right spot as they expected... So here they were, wanted to stop the full show coz they were all but out of the picture...hahay pasumbingay
So here we are

[Romeojin]

Aw mao bah? I partially agree kay wa man sad gyud ko sa Tacloban, wa sad ko sa mood ron...
Slow over all relief, kay after nitabang kunohay ang mga tao as volunteers they were now busy asking the where the governments aid... The reason why other country were able to settle down faster after the calamity, because they moved on with their lives the day where there is no such thing as relief goods where provided to them... In the other hand we Filipino tend to wait, kay hangtod naa pay lapok sa atuang kadalanan tungod sa bagyo we consider ourselves as still a victim, so unsaon man na ron? Slow or just simply not moving on?

Why not talk about the Romualdez? It could also be a bad reasoning ngano walay tabang na niabot sa ila, and that is consider as the administration's bad doings... But you can't also pull out the possibility that Romualdez don't recognized the help because the Administration is Aquino's... Believe me, they were all but BS, so you can't simply point your finger to a single person, that is what I mean... But the fact that Mang Pete allow himself to be used for any reason, that is where I see some faults... kay kung naay magpagamit, aw naa sad gyud manggamit...


Busa kamo diha, ayaw na mo pagamit sa kay bisan kinsa, kay ang kantidad na ilahang ihatag sa inyoha kuwang pa kaau para iparepair sa inyohang bulsa...

Showbiz Government indeed, so filthy rich people take a spot and be a part of it... Unluckily some of them failed to get the right spot as they expected... So here they were, wanted to stop the full show coz they were all but out of the picture...hahay pasumbingay
So here we are

Wa sad ko sa mood ron... ill make it short.

1. Punto, its hard to downplay someone sentiment when he had first hand experience on such calamity. Mao sad in a way ma offend pud ko seeing sila pa ang victim sila pa dili katuohan, thats why I said why not asked people from tacloban or maybe naa ka friends of friends taga didto, to verify the situation.
People I know, friends of friends, client, workers na taga didto failed gyud ang grade... i would not specify unsa na problems. Theres a thread about it.

The thread is about Mang Pete, ako lang request we respect his opinion. lain bya ka kay kung protest na or something anti admin.. himuan nimo istorya.

2. Conflicting man na ang "nindot response sa admin" (im not saying you said that) and "no response cause of Romualdez" . unsa sakto?

No need to talk about Romualdez, gihimo lang man nila na siya scapegoat kay slow ilang response. The fact nag declare na sila ug State of Calamity na bypass na ang local govt.

3. Ang "used" aning situation means Binuangan lang siya... he was expecting matabangan siya.

4. Klarohon nato kinsa man nagpagamit dire ? eh

[crossramz]

I've been to tacloban over a quite many times since yolanda.. I've talk to SME's businessman and other entrepreneurs. So far wala jud naka admire sa gibuhat sa administration even at the time being. Most of the organization nagtabang karon sa taga Leyte are NGO's like savethechildren foundation, Czi Thzui buddhist ( i don't know unsaon pag spell) and others. Most of the NGO's personnel naka estorya nko are really dismayed sa gibuhat sa administration..

[emberjim]

What was Mang Pete's opinion again, when the administration ask him to speak for them?
And what was his opinion, when someone(not the admin) ask him to speak again.
So don't tell me he deserve respect for his two conflicting messages. Remember, he was asked to speak in behalf of all victims, but then he lied kay the admin asked him to. Weird... Ingna gisakyan na lang na sa panahon sa mga gusto moguba sa credibilidad sa atuang pang-gobyerno...

Busa kamo tanan diha na naghunahuna pa sa kausaban, ayaw na mo pagamit sa kay kng kinsa diha na manggamit lang para sa ilahang personal na interest or sa ilahang negosyo... It is time to wake-up, think a million times before mo magpadala sa mga tamparos, sa mga gusto moguba sa gobyerno... Bisan kinsa pa na na administrasyon, ayaw na mo pagamit ug pagbantay sa mga mang-gamitay...

[Romeojin]

^ im saying after na gamit siya, whatever he said mao iyang opinion... his reaction sa SONA ni Penoy na gihimo sya ug sample. Kadto gisugo siya to lie, thats the scenario that lead to this conclusion, nihatag siya ug opinion.

During the program, the video on him was shown and Aquino mentioned Mang Pete in his speech, saying, “Mabuti pa itong taong ito,maraming namatay sa pamilya niya (pero) tumutulong sa ibang tao hindi tulad ng iba na nag-iinom lang (This man is better, he lost so many in his family but helps other people, not like others who do nothing but drink).”

But just before he was to go onstage, Mang Pete said, “sinabihan ako na sabihin ko daw na wala ako sinisisi at wala akong dapat sisihin sa nangyari sa pamilya ko (I was told to say that I blamed no one and there is no one to blame for what happened to my family).”

basaha nalang ang first page... its a long read.


asa man ka mo pabor sa bikitima sa lied or sa liar ?

unsaon man pud nato daghan man lagi mailad sa bakak ni Penoy