10000 Kurdish Forces Enter Shangal and surround isis (It's time)

[Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy]

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wrong gihapon that US created ISIS, ang funding ng ISIS came from US Allies.

America's Allies Are Funding ISIS - The Daily Beast
maybe naay jihadist from US pooled money but I strongly doubt the US created ISIS. They spent billions stabilizing Iraq, time, effort and blood, just to blow it up again ?

True naa gi train ang US... which is the FSA - Free Syrian Army - they were fighting both side ISIS and Assad regime in the early days but they started supporting ISIS eventually.
US-Backed 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army Factions Join ISIS Terror Group

Backfire ang US plan, i guess bad decision in their part. But still FSA and ISIS are not the same, they support each other. Maybe nag merge na gyud but it doesnt mean US created ISIS.

Nidako pud ning ISIS because mga ISIS now sa Iraq are majority Iraqis, who were sunni and neglected by the majority Shite Iraq.
At first the Iraq sunni were figthing ISIS but eventually ending up joining them cause of the sectarian divide brought by Al Maliki govt. And ISIS are sunnis.

Top 10 Mistakes of former Iraq PM Nouri al-Maliki (That Ruined his Country) | Informed Comment

Yeah me too, I strongly doubt that U.S created the ISIS.
And also why U.S will risk just because to protect their interest.

[blu bizcuitz]

maayo unta makuha na ni balik ang dam...

[bleedingboi]

lol, wut?!?! this is what happens when you overthrow a government and have no solid plans on how to rebuild and secure the country after you bomb the shit out of it.

I'm not sure on how you define or categorize Saddam Hussein's rule as a peaceful and legitimate form of government, it was not any kind of Government, it was tyranny and turmoil. Thousands of Kurds were killed every month! Genocides were done in any given minute. And that same government needs to be overthrown. You need to hit that bookshelf once in a while at least you'll learn something.

Obama ordered a total withdrawal of all US troops and intervention from Iraq in 2009. Rebuilding a government takes decades, not 3 or 4 years. The US took over Japan in 1945, made a constitutional reboot and rebuilt it's economy within 15-20 years. They did the same with West Germany.

[battouter]

I'm not sure on how you define or categorize Saddam Hussein's rule as a peaceful and legitimate form of government, it was not any kind of Government, it was tyranny and turmoil.

i am not condoning sadam's regime. he was brutal and evil but iraq was in a better state than what it is now. the point is, it is easy to overthrow a government, which ironically the US created and backed for decades, but like i said, you need to have a solid strategy to how to stabilize and setup the that regions government afterwards. impossible feat for a foreign occupying force in a muslim country.

Obama withdrew the US forces because the body bags of soldiers kept growing by the day. They had lost control of the situation in irag, to the point they we're hiring mercenaries (private military contractor's) to police the state and the american citizens were already feed up and asking them why were they still in iraq after they had overthrown sadam's government.

ayaw kog ingna nga papuniton ko nimo ug libro kay hibaw ko sa internet ra ka ga basa2x ug dili ra ikay adunay nahibaw-an sa situasyon ngadto, dong.

[M.A.D.]

US being responsible for ISIS is not remote. Besides, what they want is balkanized Iraq. It is historically known that Iraq, Iran, Egypt and other Arab states that are particularly on the side of the palestinians have been finding ways to end Israeli occupation.

Of course you can't discount the fact that the Qataris and Saudis also want some of the Arab States destroy as they also have their own interests, both political and economic.

Maybe the crux of why Israel was placed in Palestine was not because it was some sort of 'promised' land but because it was the perfect recipe for destabilizing the whole middle east although those mid east countries may have had a history of waging war on each other the same way Europe fought each other on WW1 and WW2 which led to the creation of the Eurozone.

Mind you the reasons why all things are happening is just too complex and deep. It justifies a single course or even hundreds of books on that area of the Earth particularly its history and how it relates to Imperialist foreign policy.

[bleedingboi]

i am not condoning sadam's regime. he was brutal and evil but iraq was in a better state than what it is now. the point is, it is easy to overthrow a government, which ironically the US created and backed for decades, but like i said, you need to have a solid strategy to how to stabilize and setup the that regions government afterwards. impossible feat for a foreign occupying force in a muslim country.

Obama withdrew the US forces because the body bags of soldiers kept growing by the day. They had lost control of the situation in irag, to the point they we're hiring mercenaries (private military contractor's) to police the state and the american citizens were already feed up and asking them why were they still in iraq after they had overthrown sadam's government.

ayaw kog ingna nga papuniton ko nimo ug libro kay hibaw ko sa internet ra ka ga basa2x ug dili ra ikay adunay nahibaw-an sa situasyon ngadto, dong.

First of all, to tell you the truth, nobody even know if Iraq was better then than now. Considering how Saddam shut down press releases within Iraq. He controlled the media, every business sector, from large corporations down to the smallest SMEs. But looking at mass graves uncovered years after the invasion, it spelled genocide.

OT: well, the way you projected your beginning sentence on your first reply was more like you accusing me to be a Bush-fanatic. I never supported Bush's policies although I grew up in a Republican family, and I never appreciated Obama's stance either.

[battouter]

First of all, to tell you the truth, nobody even know if Iraq was better then than now.

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Good luck with that.

[bleedingboi]

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Good luck with that.

And so be it....

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[Istudyante-Ni-Pikoy]

Tsk another be headed, but this time is a guy from the U.S so basin samot ka suko ani ang U.S
‘Evil straight from the pits of hell': American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS | Twitchy




And just today
ISIS Threatens Journalist Steven Sotloff After Apparent Beheading Of James Foley