K to 12 suspension sought amid school woes authored by Sen. Antonio “Sonny’’ F. Trillanes IV

[pak88]

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It seems from the Palace itself that the claims in the K-12 is all a lie
Palace: ‘No classroom backlog’ refers to what Arroyo left undone | Manila Bulletin | Latest Breaking News | News Philippines

For facts and to avoid bickering false pretenses from parties that don't know what they're talking about, check the facts from the source:



All Facts About the K-12 Program

[NudgeDELTA]

It seems from the Palace itself that the claims in the K-12 is all a lie
Palace: ‘No classroom backlog’ refers to what Arroyo left undone | Manila Bulletin | Latest Breaking News | News Philippines

I see no lie there. It is what it is. Never did the writer use the word "lie" in the article.

I'm still waiting for the link of the previous stats you made up.

[NudgeDELTA]

As for the problems on cost, these articles exhaustively discussed the solutions:

Philippines creates opportunities in overhaul of K-12 education system - ICEF Monitor - Market intelligence for international student recruitment
Straight talk on K to 12 | Inquirer News

The urgency can be justified by this comment:

para nako ... implement karon implement next year or implement 10years later i think same problem ang ma encounter. so better implement it asap so that we will see the scatter nya ma solutionan dayun

But the real issue is this:

Just a thought, did the senator seek the program's suspension just now?
Why didn't he do it while it was still in the early stages of planning?
AFAIK, schools and other educational institutions are already preparing for the implementation program.

And the answer is this:

papapel rana for 2016...

attacking this will gain sympathy to parents who are against it...thus ensuring the votes...

pangutan-a nang tawhana, if not now, when?
diba, parehas nang iyang amo nga nga-nga!

Instead, this is what he should have done:

ang iya tang gibuhat, dili pag suspend sa k-12 kung di ... dapat unta ang iya rang gi push is ang pag improve sa mga facilities ug pag himu ug bago na rooms ug bago na mga schools ....

As previously stated, the program is funded and it is a product of decades of study:

Pero, simple ra ang tubag nganong dapat dili i suspend ang K-12. Una, ang DepEd ang nakadawat ug pinakadako nga budget para sa FY 2014 [click here for the source]. Nagpasabot nga kay naa may budget ma resolve gyud na ang mga shortages. Ikaduha, gimandoan sad ang DepEd nga mohatag ug report ngadto sa Congress kung unsay result sa pag implement sa K-12.


Republic Act No. 10533




Wala sa K-12 ang problema kundili naa sa nag implementar niini. IMO, naa sa 20% sa Education sector ang wala ni fully embrace sa K-12.

The imminent urgency of the K-12 Program can not be questioned. There may be problems in the government as a whole, and the DepEd in particular but those problems are there since we can remember. The readiness is at question, but the need outweighs it.

[pak88]

The K-12 website says you provided that there are no backlogs. Yet the palace spokesperson says that the backlogs claim is for the 2010. The website did not take into account the new classroom backlogs generated for the past four years due to population increase, wear and tear of existing classrooms and facilities and destruction. The K-12 website you rely on lied on its statistics and not the Palace who could not bring himself to lie for the DepEd.

On the lack of spending in K-12 I read it a while ago but still found it here Philippine education spending still below UN standard | Inquirer Global Nation

Happy reading!

I see no lie there. It is what it is. Never did the writer use the word "lie" in the article.

I'm still waiting for the link of the previous stats you made up.

[cliff_drew]

I am not the one blabbering about the promise of K-12 education which is defective. The promised employment of high school graduates to work abroad because they took short courses in high school is a fallacy and a pipe dream. It is laughable argument for the K-12 since graduates would still have a hard time gaining employment after two years of additional costs (e.g. the caregiving industry which only schools are the ones who profited). Only the people connected to the education industry would benefit from this.

I don't see any statement from the proponents of K-12 or from the government that promised employment specifically working abroad for high school graduates because they took the short courses/specializations or because of the additional two years. If you have problem with tech-voc then there are other tracks to pursue.

TRACKS


Each student in Senior High School can choose among three tracks: Academic; Technical-Vocational-Livelihood; and Sports and Arts. The Academic track includes three strands: Business, Accountancy, Management (BAM); Humanities, Education, Social Sciences (HESS); and Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics (STEM).

The K to 12 Basic Education Program

[pak88]

That was in reaction to a statement from a post that says "The problem is matching the skills of our workers to the appropriate needs of the different companies, and that's what K-12 does."

The K-12 system could be positive for education but the problems at the onset with the imminent implementation of the program is too numerous to overlook. The K-12 website says that there are no classroom backlogs but Malacanang says that the backlogs cleared was what Arroyo left them way back in 2010. The DepEd won't even issue a figure right now but estimates are staggering.

The least the government could have done is pour money into it but seems to have other priorities in mind (DAP etc.) While the DepEd budget may have increased on the surface, it is still way behind the budget it had the last decade on a per capita basis and GDP basis. Without money, how can DepED fulfill the promise of K-12 that they will offer employable programs in senior high? It will cost a lot of money in facilities equipment and training.

Even with the free public school education we have right now, dropout rates are high due to poverty. With the increase in the number of years for high school, it is bound to increase even more.

Maybe that is why Trillanes and others have in mind when he expressed opposition to the K-12 program.

I don't see any statement from the proponents of K-12 or from the government that promised employment specifically working abroad for high school graduates because they took the short courses/specializations or because of the additional two years. If you have problem with tech-voc then there are other tracks to pursue.



The K to 12 Basic Education Program

[cliff_drew]

That was in reaction to a statement from a post that says "The problem is matching the skills of our workers to the appropriate needs of the different companies, and that's what K-12 does."

No program is perfect nor giving everyone a fool-proof promise in terms of job security. K-12 is a solution but of course the students should also take part of it. The program provides necessary trainings and/or specializations to match the skillsets required by companies. Without matching the skills, it would be waste of time and resources in which we are seeing and experiencing right now.

The K-12 system could be positive for education but the problems at the onset with the imminent implementation of the program is too numerous to overlook. The K-12 website says that there are no classroom backlogs but Malacanang says that the backlogs cleared was what Arroyo left them way back in 2010. The DepEd won't even issue a figure right now but estimates are staggering.

Take a closer look at the image taken from the gov.ph site. It doesn't say no more backlogs of classrooms as of the current. There are still backlogs. But what it emphasizes is that there are no more backlogs or shortage of classrooms way back 2010, that meant for the previous admin -- a total of 66,800 classrooms. If DepEd only provides estimates that's still be acceptable, IMO, as we know that some classrooms were converted to relocation sites. Some were even burned by insurgents in Zamboanga or flushed out by Typhoon in Tacloban, etc.

The least the government could have done is pour money into it but seems to have other priorities in mind (DAP etc.) While the DepEd budget may have increased on the surface, it is still way behind the budget it had the last decade on a per capita basis and GDP basis. Without money, how can DepED fulfill the promise of K-12 that they will offer employable programs in senior high? It will cost a lot of money in facilities equipment and training.

I maybe agree that this year's budget is not that high and will not suffice everything but nevertheless, the program will also tap private sector for source funding.

Even with the free public school education we have right now, dropout rates are high due to poverty. With the increase in the number of years for high school, it is bound to increase even more.

Again, it can't be blame on the program itself. Likewise being 'free' in public education would not be blame for high dropouts. The reason for dropouts does not really point to poverty alone. There are many factors behind it.

Maybe that is why Trillanes and others have in mind when he expressed opposition to the K-12 program.

It is stupidity as its best for a legislator/senator to express opposition for a bill-turned-law wherein preparation has been laid down already. He should have done that before.

[pak88]

No program is perfect nor giving everyone a fool-proof promise in terms of job security. K-12 is a solution but of course the students should also take part of it. The program provides necessary trainings and/or specializations to match the skillsets required by companies. Without matching the skills, it would be waste of time and resources in which we are seeing and experiencing right now.



Take a closer look at the image taken from the gov.ph site. It doesn't say no more backlogs of classrooms as of the current. There are still backlogs. But what it emphasizes is that there are no more backlogs or shortage of classrooms way back 2010, that meant for the previous admin -- a total of 66,800 classrooms. If DepEd only provides estimates that's still be acceptable, IMO, as we know that some classrooms were converted to relocation sites. Some were even burned by insurgents in Zamboanga or flushed out by Typhoon in Tacloban, etc.









I maybe agree that this year's budget is not that high and will not suffice everything but nevertheless, the program will also tap private sector for source funding.


Again, it can't be blame on the program itself. Likewise being 'free' in public education would not be blame for high dropouts. The reason for dropouts does not really point to poverty alone. There are many factors behind it.



It is stupidity as its best for a legislator/senator to express opposition for a bill-turned-law wherein preparation has been laid down already. He should have done that before.

The graph is very misleading. Why do they have to put in there No Shortages in CAPS and Boldface. My Elementary guesstimate mathematics shows that the classroom shortage is 32k already constructed +18k planned for 2013 is 50k while the shortages from 2010 alone is about 67k.

The private sector is already tapped out with taxes. I do not know how much they can contribute in this garguantuan effort.

Maybe he gave DepED a chance to get things right but the shortages graph itself shows that progress has been abysmal, at best.