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    bisag naay punto ang gi ingon ni trillanes, Tawgon lang gihapon ug papapel, you should criticize or counter his goals/ideas if you think it has no merit, instead of just dismissing it right away.

    Mga pinoy gayud oi.

  2. #32
    For me, dli jd maayo ang K12 if ang ato education system ky wla pa gani tarong. Like public schools kay kulang mn gani mga classrooms/teachers etc then nag-introduce cla ug k12. Samot na nuon ni luoy ang dli ka-afford ug education in the first place. Unahon sa unta nila nang mga basic necessities before introducing k-12.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by j2shoppesweet View Post
    For me, dli jd maayo ang K12 if ang ato education system ky wla pa gani tarong. Like public schools kay kulang mn gani mga classrooms/teachers etc then nag-introduce cla ug k12. Samot na nuon ni luoy ang dli ka-afford ug education in the first place. Unahon sa unta nila nang mga basic necessities before introducing k-12.
    I think mao ni ang basic necessity ug wa lang ka makasabot. Tan awa pila ka highschool graduate lang nga naa ra sa ubos nga sector makatrabaho tungod kay walay qualification. Ug ikaw graduate sa highschool nga patterned sa k-12 maka trabaho na ka ug taas2 nga level kay clerical or rank and file na imoha nga qualification.
    Ug gusto ka nga mosaka ang ranggo mao na nga panahon mo eskwela ka ug college.
    Ang nakadaut sa pinoy ang pagpaskwela sa ilang anak dili priority mao ang gastohanan sa skwelahan ikwenta ug apil sa liabilities dili sa obligations.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by hexo View Post
    bisag naay punto ang gi ingon ni trillanes, Tawgon lang gihapon ug papapel, you should criticize or counter his goals/ideas if you think it has no merit, instead of just dismissing it right away.

    Mga pinoy gayud oi.
    Trillanes has a point, but it is misleading. Rather than going back to the basics of the BEC and focusing on funding the basic provisions, the DepEd needs to upgrade the former curriculum to be at par with the international standards. They have weighed the advantage of following the current curriculum.

    Again, Trillanes should just stick with military related legislation.

    Quote Originally Posted by elBartolo View Post
    pag magsugod na ang K-12 program, daghang malugi and/or magsira na colleges and universities.
    It won't be the K-12 that's going to do that, but rather the typology of SUCs and HEIs as proposed by CHED.
    You can read more about it here: http://www.ched.gov.ph/wp-content/up...o.46-s2012.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by j2shoppesweet View Post
    For me, dli jd maayo ang K12 if ang ato education system ky wla pa gani tarong. Like public schools kay kulang mn gani mga classrooms/teachers etc then nag-introduce cla ug k12. Samot na nuon ni luoy ang dli ka-afford ug education in the first place. Unahon sa unta nila nang mga basic necessities before introducing k-12.
    I was about to reply with this very point in mind. Aside from being able to work after 2 years of Senior High School, those credits or units earned while in Senior High will be credited upon pursuing an academic degree in college. That makes the number of years and the cost the same or even lesser.


    Imagine students from the province taking their Senior High education in their provinces and not in the city Higher Education Institutions (HEIs). They would save money from food, lodging, and other geographic related expenses.


    In addition to the last statement of @Blade622, I would like to raise a question:


    "Why the heck would you raise a child nowadays when you don't have the money to raise them?"


    If you can't even support yourself, logic tells us that you can't support another human being.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by NudgeDELTA View Post
    A former military making a resolution towards an education related problem, that is expected. The senator should just stick his head in military related bills or laws.



    I had the chance to teach science for junior high schools in the USA for 2 years. The structure of their levels would be different from state to state or county to county, but more or less this is how it wass way back: Kindergarten, Elementary (Grade 1-5), Middle School (Grade 6-, Junior High School (Grade 9-10), Senior High School (Grade 11-12). Classes were about 2-3 hours a day. Each state has their own required subjects (termed "courses" in the US). Usually they range from science, math, English, foreign language, and social sciences. The students also have their choice of electives. It's much like college here where we choose our own subjects.



    Not really. The K-12 is long overdue. To those who don't understand or who doesn't have a background in education, this is a total waste. I'm encouraging you to read more. The K-12 is in compliance for our educational system to be at par with other countries through its adherence to the Bologna Accord and the Washington Accord. That will enable our migrants to pursue a career without having to study for an additional two years in other countries. This move also directs us to a Knowledge Based Economy. Not all Filipinos are capable to go to college for various reasons. The additional 2 years would enable the child to work after high school. Welders, Pipe-fitters, etc. abroad are earning more than our local doctors. Credits earned in the Senior High School will as well be honored if the child will pursue a college degree.

    Now, is that really a waste of years?



    RA 10533 states that DepEd, CHED, and TESDA will be working with each other and the K-12 under the Basic Education Act of 2013 is already a law. I doubt changes can be done abruptly. Take the extra years as a necessity and not a curse. Your children will have an edge than us when it comes to employability.



    It is a greater embarrassment if we were the only country in Asia having less than 11 years of basic education. I hear your sentiments, but we can't waste any more time not adding those needed couple of years in our basic education. 70% of our unemployed are high school graduates.

    I do agree that funding should be increased. Even if education has the highest allocation for budget, it still falls roughly below the UNESCO standards.
    thanks sa imong reply sir! naliwanagan din. ok wala na ko maglibog. hehehehe. concern lang ko sa education sa akong anak nga mag kinder karon.

  6. #36
    kung naay nakita kinahanglan ug tabang aw tabangan
    dili kay barahan na noon

    nakita niya nga kulang ug classroom, teachers, etc...
    mag himo or mag duso nalang unta cya balaod para ma paspasan ang maong programa

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by redshields View Post
    thanks sa imong reply sir! naliwanagan din. ok wala na ko maglibog. hehehehe. concern lang ko sa education sa akong anak nga mag kinder karon.
    You're welcome sir. Glad to help.

    Quote Originally Posted by yacky2006 View Post
    kung naay nakita kinahanglan ug tabang aw tabangan
    dili kay barahan na noon

    nakita niya nga kulang ug classroom, teachers, etc...
    mag himo or mag duso nalang unta cya balaod para ma paspasan ang maong programa
    Exactly. Lawmakers need to fine-tune their troubleshooting solutions to fit the specific problem that needs to be addressed.

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    Thanks @NudgeDELTA for the enlightenment. Its appreciative to have POV from the academe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliff_drew View Post
    Thanks @NudgeDELTA for the enlightenment. Its appreciative to have POV from the academe.
    You're most welcome sir. Although if I may add, I was skeptic as well when the K-12 started. Still vigilant up until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NudgeDELTA View Post
    You're most welcome sir. Although if I may add, I was skeptic as well when the K-12 started. Still vigilant up until now.
    Me too. I am positive that it will be successful amidst several hiccups.

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