Dismissed because of Fraud, Deducted 20k for Training bond

[cliff_drew]

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@TS,

Sakto ang giingon sa uban posters na move on. Although thanks pud sa pag share diri para sad sa uban nga nakabasa ani nga thread. Sakit man paminawon nga gipabayad ka pero mao man gud na ilang policy with regards to background check and training bond. Kahebaw gyud ka ana. And hunahunaa sad nga dili ra ikaw ang na penaltihan ug ingon ani, daghan na. Maayo gani kay giagi pa ug hearing kaysa sa uban nga dritso hatagan ug termination notice without hearing the agent's side.

[Scott Bernard]

Or basin kabalo naka daan ts pero imong assumption kay maka lusot raka. Kay sa imo lang excuse daan nga dugay nato nahitabo nga college paka unya wala kay check2 sa imong units na kompleto is unbelievable and unacceptable.

[Zakary]

nahitabo naman gyud na ts , don't worry apply na lang og lain ,ayaw na lang ibutang na nakatrabaho ka og call center sa imong resume start afresh next time mang apply ka klaruha sa gyud unsa requirements and qualifications kay kabaw na ka sa mga company sa pilipinas, grabe ka strickto ,or better yet ,maypa apply na lang kag abroad ts

[dignos_superstar]

I didn't know 72 units ang ihap para mo count as 2nd year student.
And gipang drop nmu imong subject pag 3rd college kay ga dali ka ug sulod ug call center? Tama ba akong pag sabot?
Unsa course nmu before? Ug unsa imong "mindset" ngano nag dali mn ka ug sulod ug call center?

Ang sweldo noh?

[ojoberrebs]

okay rana TS, as long as naa nakay experienced, murag easy na mu land ug another cc company, mas dako2 pa ug sweldo. ehehe God has beautiful plan on you cheer up, it's not your lost, its their lost, i know you are a good employee..

[jeff_bonz59]

para nko.. since im working in one of the big call centers sad dha sa IT park...


there's nothing wrong in fighting for your principles TS... AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, you are clean... but as far as THEY KNOW you are NOT...

I think it also boils down to what account you had before bai... stricto lang cguro jud ang processes sa inyong account as compared to perhaps other account sad.. usually e. background check sad ka nila...before anything else...so para nako.. naa man cguro sad faults ( in some way or the other...) sila ani before sa HR nila, considering wa ka nila gi thorough ug background check jud...

anyway... taas na ang lubi.. pero naa ra nimo tanan pud pre if you would go to fighting this or just letting it go nalang...

It's not easy being accused and penalized for something that you THINK its not true.... and It's another thing to JUST BITE THE BULLET and SUCK'ED IT ALL UP....

It's your call lang bai... I know deep in your mind... d cguro ka maka sleep ug hapsay kay nagrigor pud imong hunahunaa unsay sala nahimo nimo nila.....

Keep the FAITH and Godbless bro.!

[iceman_reman]

agree ko ani... walay taong malupig kung dli padaog. know your rights and your intuition if you are really right or wrong.

[sirspeak]

Bro go back to the contract ninyo bro regarding sa bonds sa cvg, but what I generally know is that ang bond should be returned upon dismissal or resignation within the bond period, which is commonly 6 months. and lisuda sa imu position kay na bad image ka sa cvg which I think would be very useful ni sila unta as character reference.

But I believe bro nga if there's a will there's a way so kaya na nimu brader.

[sammedriano]

Advice ts, apply in JPMC. They are hiring now and as far as I am aware of, they do not necessarily need someone who completed 2 yrs in college, but someone who has strong will and honesty. Give it your best shot bai.

[Jhared]

Trainee ko for about 3 months and half sa cvg, contract started jan 28 this year, was endorsed in the prod after 1 and a half months and after that,, nasangit ko sa background check nga kuwangan ako units sa last sem katong college pako, w/c is.. wa diay ko kahuman ug 2nd year college of which i was not aware the whole time.. so ila ko gi inform nga paabot sa admin hearing daw, then week after, attend ko ug admin hearing,ako cla gipasabot sa aq side then this presiding of the said admin hearing always ask me about exact dates nga kanus ko nga month or year nagsugod, kanus ko ni second year, and told him im not sure kay almost 5 yrs ago nato last niundang ko,so nangau nlng cya ug orig copy sa aq TOR and ni cooperate ko voluntarily and submitted it to my TL. wait for the result, no more continuation sa admin hearing for clarification mn lng sa aq mga statements, consequences will be assigned to another account or the worst,,dismissal which is confident ko nga dili na mao ang resulta kay its not my intension nga mangilad ko sa aqng education background. wala ko gisuspend while gapaabot. padayun japon sa trabaho, maau ug metrics sa trabaho, maau ug feedback during coaching, cge kog OT 4 hours kada duty sulod usa ka buwan. kay lagi naa koy asawa ug anak gibuhi, so kayud jud ko. ug usa pa kay kuwangan man daw ug heads ang amung account that time mao cge cla pa OT. after a few weeks, naabot ang result. my tl gave me this notice sa dismissal effective that day May 9 this year naay mga screenshots sa TOR bahin sa mga dates w/c is wa nitugma sa aq mga statements which is again im not certain sa katong nag admin hearing. , and i was devastated. guba aq mga plano ug para sa aq family, blanko aq utok that time mao nakapirma pud ko which is... aq pa unta to ireview before ko mopirma. i know, dawaton nlng jud nko nga tanga jud ko ato nga time. so after that ngutana sa aq TL if pede mu appeal, then my TL told me, "pwede, pero hunahunaa lang asa ta nagkulang" mao to wa nlng ko nidayun kay hinoon kay gipasalig mn ko nga daku aq makuha, then daghan pang kaaplayan. so aq nlng gidawat ang tanan.

ang case:

Section E. Fraud, dishonesty and similar acts to company interest.

9. Making false claim for reimbursements, false statements in employment records, false testimony in company investigation and or any form of forgery - dismissal

14. knowingly giving false or misleading infornation or documents to seek or qualify for any employment preferrence or benefit from the company. -dismissal

23. Other forms of deciet, fraud, swindling and misrepresentation comitted by an employee agains the company or its representative. -dismissal

Two requisites to justify loss of trust and confidence as a ground for termination | Batas Pinoy

grabeh noh? wa jud koy idea ani kay di ko maau ug mga balaod.All i know nga Just Cause Dismissal ni cya sa Labor Code Article 282, murag Bug-at ra kaau ang giaccuse sa akoa. tan aw ninyu sakto ni? ang ako lang di jud ko aware nga naa pa diay ko back subjects sa college. kung kahibaw palang ko di jud ko patuga tugag apply. nya unsaon mn nga dapat mn jud mutrabaho kay naa koy gibuhi. nya wa nko nakuha aq last sweldo aqng mga OT kay ihapak ra daw sa final pay, so utang2x ang ending bisan pandiaper sa aq anak intawn

next...

nagpaclearared ko May 29. (dugay ko kapacleared kay depressed ko that tine and on leave aq tl and need his signature, waited for a month, then just as of today..this afternoon, nikuha ko sa aq final pay... expecting for a 5 digit last pay nga mao ra aq pag asa.. and then ..... 3k ra diay ang printed sa aq paycheck. ako gianalyzed ang mga deduction then ako nakita nga gideduct-kan ug 20k, for training bond!. wa ko nipirma. hangyo ko nga mu appeal but wala pay hr daw pero pwede ra daw ibilin aq number para contakon ko. ug duda ko, 3k ra jud aq makuha.

and rigth now. naa ko diri sa balay, sigarilyo nalay kalipay, hawid hawiran nya diladilaan para problema maklimtan, way kwarta, utangan pa ug 15k rent sa balay kurente ug mga giutangan, paabot ug tawag sa aq mga giaaplyan.

what can u say about my experience mga istoryans? any advice, opinions or suggestions or advice about legal matters? TIA

You are not covered by the provisions of the Labor Code, because trainee pman ka or learner as termed by same law, not a regular employee.. so provisions of said code will not apply to you.. sa laktod nga pagka istorya, legally you can't do something about it.. oftentimes this is the kind of loophole that some companies are trying to exploit, but in your case they have a valid excuse to terminate you, as it should not be considered as an excuse nga wala kay idea nga wala diay ka nakahuman ug 2nd year College as it should be incumbent upon you to know...
so fraud or not they are only acting on the light of their own policy and should therefore make no exceptions...

so sad fact is, wala jud kay mabuhat nga ilang gikwaan imohang kwarta, best thing you can do is ask for their corporate bylaws nya tan-awa if there are any provisions there nga wala nila tumana, and then from there if makakita ka that would become your basis for appeal...