Dismissed because of Fraud, Deducted 20k for Training bond

[JahRastafar]

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Trainee ko for about 3 months and half sa cvg, contract started jan 28 this year, was endorsed in the prod after 1 and a half months and after that,, nasangit ko sa background check nga kuwangan ako units sa last sem katong college pako, w/c is.. wa diay ko kahuman ug 2nd year college of which i was not aware the whole time.. so ila ko gi inform nga paabot sa admin hearing daw, then week after, attend ko ug admin hearing,ako cla gipasabot sa aq side then this presiding of the said admin hearing always ask me about exact dates nga kanus ko nga month or year nagsugod, kanus ko ni second year, and told him im not sure kay almost 5 yrs ago nato last niundang ko,so nangau nlng cya ug orig copy sa aq TOR and ni cooperate ko voluntarily and submitted it to my TL. wait for the result, no more continuation sa admin hearing for clarification mn lng sa aq mga statements, consequences will be assigned to another account or the worst,,dismissal which is confident ko nga dili na mao ang resulta kay its not my intension nga mangilad ko sa aqng education background. wala ko gisuspend while gapaabot. padayun japon sa trabaho, maau ug metrics sa trabaho, maau ug feedback during coaching, cge kog OT 4 hours kada duty sulod usa ka buwan. kay lagi naa koy asawa ug anak gibuhi, so kayud jud ko. ug usa pa kay kuwangan man daw ug heads ang amung account that time mao cge cla pa OT. after a few weeks, naabot ang result. my tl gave me this notice sa dismissal effective that day May 9 this year naay mga screenshots sa TOR bahin sa mga dates w/c is wa nitugma sa aq mga statements which is again im not certain sa katong nag admin hearing. , and i was devastated. guba aq mga plano ug para sa aq family, blanko aq utok that time mao nakapirma pud ko which is... aq pa unta to ireview before ko mopirma. i know, dawaton nlng jud nko nga tanga jud ko ato nga time. so after that ngutana sa aq TL if pede mu appeal, then my TL told me, "pwede, pero hunahunaa lang asa ta nagkulang" mao to wa nlng ko nidayun kay hinoon kay gipasalig mn ko nga daku aq makuha, then daghan pang kaaplayan. so aq nlng gidawat ang tanan.

ang case:

Section E. Fraud, dishonesty and similar acts to company interest.

9. Making false claim for reimbursements, false statements in employment records, false testimony in company investigation and or any form of forgery - dismissal

14. knowingly giving false or misleading infornation or documents to seek or qualify for any employment preferrence or benefit from the company. -dismissal

23. Other forms of deciet, fraud, swindling and misrepresentation comitted by an employee agains the company or its representative. -dismissal

http://bataspinoy.wordpress.com/2012...r-termination/

grabeh noh? wa jud koy idea ani kay di ko maau ug mga balaod.All i know nga Just Cause Dismissal ni cya sa Labor Code Article 282, murag Bug-at ra kaau ang giaccuse sa akoa. tan aw ninyu sakto ni? ang ako lang di jud ko aware nga naa pa diay ko back subjects sa college. kung kahibaw palang ko di jud ko patuga tugag apply. nya unsaon mn nga dapat mn jud mutrabaho kay naa koy gibuhi. nya wa nko nakuha aq last sweldo aqng mga OT kay ihapak ra daw sa final pay, so utang2x ang ending bisan pandiaper sa aq anak intawn

next...

nagpaclearared ko May 29. (dugay ko kapacleared kay depressed ko that tine and on leave aq tl and need his signature, waited for a month, then just as of today..this afternoon, nikuha ko sa aq final pay... expecting for a 5 digit last pay nga mao ra aq pag asa.. and then ..... 3k ra diay ang printed sa aq paycheck. ako gianalyzed ang mga deduction then ako nakita nga gideduct-kan ug 20k, for training bond!. wa ko nipirma. hangyo ko nga mu appeal but wala pay hr daw pero pwede ra daw ibilin aq number para contakon ko. ug duda ko, 3k ra jud aq makuha.

and rigth now. naa ko diri sa balay, sigarilyo nalay kalipay, hawid hawiran nya diladilaan para problema maklimtan, way kwarta, utangan pa ug 15k rent sa balay kurente ug mga giutangan, paabot ug tawag sa aq mga giaaplyan.

what can u say about my experience mga istoryans? any advice, opinions or suggestions or advice about legal matters? TIA

[mom_in_cebu]

move on nlang bro... coz you have family to raise. if naa naka new job, and you can't get over the whole experience, go back to the company and ask for your case to be re-opened para pod malandungan ka... but for now, ako ika suggest, go out of your comfort zone, look for a job, and get a better life... wishing you luck here....

[JahRastafar]

move on nlang bro... coz you have family to raise. if naa naka new job, and you can't get over the whole experience, go back to the company and ask for your case to be re-opened para pod malandungan ka... but for now, ako ika suggest, go out of your comfort zone, look for a job, and get a better life... wishing you luck here....

yup. maojud aq plan run. pag out nko sa i2 ditso gud ko apply as walk-in sa Q since dawat mn daw clag college level..hehe, ok ra unta nga nadismissed ko, ang kwarta lng jud nga aq gihaguan. di mn gud lalim nga tag 12 hours everyshift for the whole month w/c $6/OT hour + wage that month nya wala lng diay.awts paeta jud. btw . thanks!

i don't know the rules and regulations of the call center industry, but as what you've said, you are innocent that you forgot that you didn't complete your 2nd year college ... and you already explained to them what happened ...

for me this is not fraud, coz you solemnly admitted it .. the punishment is just too severe for you ...


but dude, just relax ... there are a lot of CCs out there, don't be sad and try to apply for another job, but this time, make sure to present them your situation ( didn't complete 2nd year college ) .... good luck boss ... kaya na nimo ...

mao jud boss, ambot lng murag paminaw ko gitiwasan jud ko. since i was caught off guard and i was confident enough nga di ko madismiss. ambot lang, murag naa may something fishy bahin sa aqng pagkadismissed.

[Wynna]

sir, were you aware prior to your application that the company requires applicants who at least completed 72 units in college? Kay diba, they would ask you to submit your requirements which includes your transcript of records? and aside from that sa interview palang daan, they would ask you questions regarding that.. besides, ikaw mismo dapat aware ka sa imong own educational background... wala man kaha ka nag falsify sa imong documents esp sa TOR? ... Dili nato ma blame ang company coz they also have rules to follow.. that way they could keep their integrity. For all we know, CVG is not a "just2x" company ... The way I see it, wala kay daganan jud ani bro, and you have a signed a contract to begin with....

[JahRastafar]

@marius mao jud boss. ang ako lng boss kay bcn i BI napud ko sa aq new company ba they found out nga dismissed ko for fraud.

@Wynna yes miss, aware ko nga 2 years ila kinahanglan, di mn gud in units nabutang sa ila requirements gud. and 1 thing, karun pko ka conclude nga nahuman unta nko aqng 2nd year if wala nko gipangdrop ang subjects including 3rd year 1st sem subjects, emergency mn gud mao rush daun aq mindset ato mutrabahu ug callcenter since mudawat clag nahuman sa 2nd year nya nahire ko sa CC nga college level lang ang required then ok ra nga di TOR isubmit, any alternatives ok na since naa koy balance sa school mao wa ko ka followup sa tibook units which is my mistake, and that was 5 years ago na. mao to plan ko mutrabaho ug dakug sweldo para makuha nko aq TOR, ,So try ko apply CVG and after the final interview sign daun contract then ditso training that same day mao naglisud kog submit kay nagfollowup ko sa mga requirements while training. so gi extend nila among pagsubmit ug requirements. ug sa dihang diha rako nkahibaw nga kuwang kog units pagkuha nko sa aq tor 2months after the hiring date kay wa mn ko kabayad sa school kay gidrop mn nko mao nadugay.

falsification, di jud ko mubuhat ug ing ana. wajud koy bad records sukad2x nakatrabaho ko ug call center, bisan awol mn lang wala,

pero ila kung gibundakan fraud which makes me think nga ing ani ko pag kataw. sa aqng huna2x nagtinarung jud ko. limpyo aqng konsensy, buhaton unsay sakto. mao ra jud na, tnx sa reps miss!

[beyee]

CVG is too strict on "integrity" bai so that explains
your dilemma now. I don't wanna be like a broken
record ha but before you apply with your TOR in
hand, you can readily see how many units you have
earned but like you claim it slipped your mind.

Since you were dismissed still under trainee, they
have the right to deduct the training bond from your
last pay. Sad but true, bai.

Anyway, if you want to fight for this issue, you can
seek legal assistance but this will take too long and
you still have a family to support and bills to pay, so
it's wiser to move on and learn from it bai.

All the best to you and your family

[JahRastafar]

CVG is too strict on "integrity" bai so that explains
your dilemma now. I don't wanna be like a broken
record ha but before you apply with your TOR in
hand, you can readily see how many units you have
earned but like you claim it slipped your mind.

Since you were dismissed still under trainee, they
have the right to deduct the training bond from your
last pay. Sad but true, bai.

Anyway, if you want to fight for this issue, you can
seek legal assistance but this will take too long and
you still have a family to support and bills to pay, so
it's wiser to move on and learn from it bai.

All the best to you and your family

sakto jud ka bai. ambot lng nganung gi share ko ni dri, cguro wa lng jud koy maduolan. thanks bai

[beyee]

sakto jud ka bai. ambot lng nganung gi share ko ni dri, cguro wa lng jud koy maduolan. thanks bai

There's nothing wrong in sharing.
It simply helps you look at the problem from a different angle
from our perspective. At least, it eases your doubts or confusion
regarding the matter bai. Who knows, you're helping out others
here who have a similar situation like yours.

Just keep the faith, bai. You'll overcome this.
Bills and probs are always constant but never your faith.
So just hang in there, Ayaw padala sa problema, barog Lang ta

[ralphswurld]

bro paeta ani oi..ambot lang kung mka sunud bka sa ako i-advice.

1. Puyu lang sa didto sa imu parents
2. Pag online job lang sa naa daghan dha bahala dili dako sweldo mitras gpangita pka work pang sustento lng sa ba.
3. Cut the sigarilyo bro naa rba ka anak unsaon nlang

[starcatch]

lisod jd tuod if naa ka sasitwasyon ts but kuhai lang ug kusog ang imong pamilya nga wala kay mabuhat ug magcge raka ug hinoktok dha inyo...since naa namn kay experieced kausahi ug apply ang tanan call centers..madawat jd ka ts knowing gkan ka sa cvg... lisod tuod ang kinabuhi but if magpapilda ka ikaw akansi...imong pamilya akansi...