S*x: A Necessity or a "must" for relationships?

[lover_online]

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*** is done out of love...well, it's not a necessity..it's judt that for other, it's a sort of way to express your feelings...har har

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Yes, our minds help us know what is right and wrong; pero naa ta'y basis nga objective moral law for us to be able to say nga such an act is right and the other wrong. Our minds didn't invent morality; what it can do is just to point us to the existence of a moral law under which we are all subject.

Mao lage ga balik balik ta ... our basis are from our beliefs no matter what if its right or wrong kay mao man gi tuhuan nato . It does not justify anything kay lain lain man ta ug beliefs even ug same na religion , thats the whole point because it crosses yours I am wrong and vice versa . Its up to us to know what is right or wrong and there is really no basis to it kay lain lain man ta ug morals .

Who decides? I guess each one of us have to make that decision. What do we *really* believe? Or, why do we believe what we believe? Why am I a Christian? Or, why am I a buddhist?

But all religions can't be right in their claims at the same time, di ba? Only one of them is right. Possible nga all of them can be wrong, pero dili possible nga sili tanan sakto. So we have to examine them and decide for ourselves which one is right. By being a Christian, for example, you are affirming that what Christianity claims is right, and it also means that what you didn't choose you consider to be in the wrong.

There is no RIGHT or WRONG . Each individual assumes and believes to know the RIGHT and WRONG specially towards *** .

In what sense siya lahi og morals sa ato? I don't think naay kalahian.

As a person ? Pwerting dakoa being a westerner ! As a fellow Christian ... justifiable na same tungod under one law and moral teachings .

If he's a Christian, he should care what the Church says about what is right and wrong. If wala siya'y religion, or if atheist siya, then it's understandable musulti siya ana, kay he don't believe in a moral law. He only follows his personal preference, and he may call that his own "morality".

And just because it does not CONFORMS sa standards sa CHURCH doesnt mean also na SAYOP ang dili CHRISITANS right ? But thats what you are trying to put out way back na basis nimo CHRISTIANITY and CHURCH mao anything under the SUN that is not that is wrong .

You mean atheists or agnostics? Asa man sila mag-base sa ilang thinking kung unsa ang sakto og sayup? Unsa ilang basis in saying nga *** before marriage is okay? Wala'y basis kay dili man sila mutuo og moral law, di ba? Mahulog nga personal preference lang nila. They can't really say that it's right.

You dont need religion to have MORALS . Mismo sila mag huna huna pod cguro na ang MORALS natong mga KATOLIKO is baliko .

I think mao na ang difficulty if you're an atheist or an agnostic, kay dili man ka mutuo og moral law, so you have no way of knowing whether what you're doing is really right or wrong. But if you're a Christian, you have a clear way of knowing whether such an act is right, kay you are guided by a moral law. In a sense, you're lost if you don't believe in a moral law. Wala ka kabalo if sakto ba jud imong gipangbuhat o sayup; you just consider an act right just because you feel it is right.

TRUE but what I am trying to digest is mismo ako ug ikaw lahi ta ug morals bisan we are the same Christians we thought guides us under one roof .

[Pinkdimensions]

y not savor the perks of life hihih..

[josephdc]

Mao lage ga balik balik ta ... our basis are from our beliefs no matter what if its right or wrong kay mao man gi tuhuan nato . It does not justify anything kay lain lain man ta ug beliefs even ug same na religion , thats the whole point because it crosses yours I am wrong and vice versa . Its up to us to know what is right or wrong and there is really no basis to it kay lain lain man ta ug morals .

I understand what you're trying to say nga kita tanan lain-lain jud og "morals" (personal beliefs), nga naga-base jud ta sa atong own beliefs kung unsa'y sakto o sayup, so that wala'y ultimate nga basis kung unsa ang sakto o sayup kay lain-lain man ta og tinuhuan personally. Did I get you correctly? But supposing you have two guys. One is a neo-Nazi who personally believes that Jews should be exterminated, and the other who personally thinks that it's very, very wrong. Kinsa man sa ila ang sakto o sayup? How will you judge who is wrong kung wala kay ultimate basis what is right and what is wrong?

There is no RIGHT or WRONG . Each individual assumes and believes to know the RIGHT and WRONG specially towards *** .

And I thought you said dili ka relativist.

As a person ? Pwerting dakoa being a westerner ! As a fellow Christian ... justifiable na same tungod under one law and moral teachings .

Yes, pareha ra iyang morals sa atoa being Catholics.

And just because it does not CONFORMS sa standards sa CHURCH doesnt mean also na SAYOP ang dili CHRISITANS right ? But thats what you are trying to put out way back na basis nimo CHRISTIANITY and CHURCH mao anything under the SUN that is not that is wrong .

No, not necessarily. But I believe in my religion's teachings, especially with regards to ***. That means, as I said from the start, that I believe *** before marriage is wrong.

You dont need religion to have MORALS . Mismo sila mag huna huna pod cguro na ang MORALS natong mga KATOLIKO is baliko .

Even if you're not Christian, of course you may still have a sense of what is right and what is wrong, deep down inside you, by virtue of your being human. But without Christianity, you will not know Jesus Christ. Remember He said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by me." I know it sounds very harsh, especially to the other religions and the atheists. My deep apologies. But as what one Christian writer, Ravi Zacharias, pointed out, Jesus in saying that is making a very, very reasonable statement. He is either right or He's wrong. But He is making a most reasonable statement, because truth by definition is exclusive.

If you don't have a religion and you're faced with the question of the morality of *** before marriage, I think you will have great difficulty in deciding if it will be right, because you have no guide. It will become very easy for you to make decisions based on feelings.

TRUE but what I am trying to digest is mismo ako ug ikaw lahi ta ug morals bisan we are the same Christians we thought guides us under one roof .

Yes our beliefs, even if we may both be Christians, may differ in some ways, but ultimately the rightness or wrongness of our actions will be measured against an objective moral law.

[christa]

bang!

[Pinkdimensions]

ouch!

[synxmichelle]

bang!

Hi How are?....what you mean by BANG?

[juice]

lalisan pa diay ni? kung lami-an mung duha and di na jud madala inyong biga..hala go...problema nana ninyo kung di ninyo makaya ang consequences...kamo ray pagsabut ana..kung di ka ganahan kay di ka-***, hala buwagi..pangitag lain..kung love nimu sha makahuwat ka..magcompromise dapat! hala sige...go and multiply...

[monrose29]

^^^ kalma lang dai juicy fruit maka huwat ra lagi ko.. aw unsa ba... hehehe..

dahh kaning lovemaking part na gyud na sa relationship deli gyud na ma deny oi manga bang pa man gali para ka pa gawas.... kana pa bang na-ay uyab..

control na lang gyud.. para walay lalis.. kong mo ingon gali c inday nga deli.. deli jud nah.... kay basta red flag c inday deli gyud nah pede so ayaw nalang mo reklamo mga dodong... unya pod ayaw inadlawa para deli ka pul-an....

kamo lang gud mag sabot2x... basta ang importante responsible mo duha.. deli kay pataka lang mog pangete unya pasagdan lang....

[koontz_circle]

Ako lang sah ni e refer ni mama ug papa kay sila man mas nakabalo about ani..