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  1. #71

    Quote Originally Posted by H.Wolowitz View Post
    out of curiosity boss, mga what age na imong gi.ingon nga naka realize ka? what triggered - like a specific event/moment that happened?
    don't worry i won't bash or anything. curious lang. kuryuso man ko nga pagka.tawo gud.

    friends gani ming nefarian! pero ako ray kahibaw nga friends mi. hehe
    around 4th yr HS, when I realized nga if mutuo ko, wa man ghapon mahatag nga maau sa akong kinabuhi, wai gamit ghapon, nia nka realize ko nga wa giud diay ebidensya nga nay ginoo. if mutoo ko, I will stop seeking for real answers. there's no reason to believe in god, and wa sad proof

  2. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    around 4th yr HS, when I realized nga if mutuo ko, wa man ghapon mahatag nga maau sa akong kinabuhi, wai gamit ghapon, nia nka realize ko nga wa giud diay ebidensya nga nay ginoo. if mutoo ko, I will stop seeking for real answers. there's no reason to believe in god, and wa sad proof
    ok boss. for sure hilig ka mo.read and watch documentaries about ana. hehe

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    around 4th yr HS, when I realized nga if mutuo ko, wa man ghapon mahatag nga maau sa akong kinabuhi, wai gamit ghapon, nia nka realize ko nga wa giud diay ebidensya nga nay ginoo. if mutoo ko, I will stop seeking for real answers. there's no reason to believe in god, and wa sad proof
    para nimu, unsay ikaayu sa Atheism sa Atung kalibutan? or naa ba?

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    para nimu, unsay ikaayu sa Atheism sa Atung kalibutan? or naa ba?
    first of all, being an atheist voids you of answers that do not have proof. because of this, we are more inclined to REAL scientific/logical explanations of phenomena. In other words, the mindset that atheism promotes knowledge that leads ,more likely than theism, to discovery, innovation, progress.

    Answering a question "god did it" already stops every innovation and discovery ongoing. it says that we know the answer, it says that there is nothing out there more interesting than "god." Atheism is the key to the door theism locked. You must have already seen it coming. If you haven't, I wouldn't be surprised.

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    first of all, being an atheist voids you of answers that do not have proof. because of this, we are more inclined to REAL scientific/logical explanations of phenomena. In other words, the mindset that atheism promotes knowledge that leads ,more likely than theism, to discovery, innovation, progress.

    Answering a question "god did it" already stops every innovation and discovery ongoing. it says that we know the answer, it says that there is nothing out there more interesting than "god." Atheism is the key to the door theism locked. You must have already seen it coming. If you haven't, I wouldn't be surprised.
    Does your so called knowledge Promotes Peace? Does your Logical Explanation make the world Much Better to live in?
    Does your Innovation make the World better?
    Does Doing Good to other people Scientific or Not?

  6. #76
    @SioDenz

    science, my friend, is a nonmoral entity. sa tawo nalang na kung daotan sya or di. kung nai sakit sa utok samot. dungagan pas religion musamot, tan awa gd ng mga suicide bombers, in you honest opinion, buhaton kaha na nila if atheists sila? name me one very bad atheist in history nga nagbuhat ug bad thing in the name of atheism. wala. how about very harmful events caused by people bringing the name of their religion throughout history? countless

    by doing the 'least possible harm' analysis, we can see that indeed war is not beneficial.
    if you have the capability to think, yes it does make a world a better place to live in.

    a good person does a good thing and a bad person does a bad thing, but if you see a good person doing very bad things, it takes religion.

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    science, my friend, is a nonmoral entity. sa tawo nalang na kung daotan sya or di. kung nai sakit sa utok samot. dungagan pas religion musamot, tan awa gd ng mga suicide bombers, in you honest opinion, buhaton kaha na nila if atheists sila? name me one very bad atheist in history nga nagbuhat ug bad thing in the name of atheism. wala. how about very harmful events caused by people bringing the name of their religion throughout history? countless

    by doing the 'least possible harm' analysis, we can see that indeed war is not beneficial.
    if you have the capability to think, yes it does make a world a better place to live in.

    a good person does a good thing and a bad person does a bad thing, but if you see a good person doing very bad things, it takes religion.
    Very Good Point.

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    @SioDenz

    science, my friend, is a nonmoral entity. sa tawo nalang na kung daotan sya or di. kung nai sakit sa utok samot. dungagan pas religion musamot, tan awa gd ng mga suicide bombers, in you honest opinion, buhaton kaha na nila if atheists sila? name me one very bad atheist in history nga nagbuhat ug bad thing in the name of atheism. wala. how about very harmful events caused by people bringing the name of their religion throughout history? countless

    by doing the 'least possible harm' analysis, we can see that indeed war is not beneficial.
    if you have the capability to think, yes it does make a world a better place to live in.

    a good person does a good thing and a bad person does a bad thing, but if you see a good person doing very bad things, it takes religion.
    A very bad Atheist?

    In what way we will DETERMINE or Classify a Bad Person from a Good Person? Scientifically? Logically?

    How about Stalin and Lenin? Chairman Mao? Kim Jong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelnalf View Post
    Very Good Point.
    Unsay naka Good sa Point nga wala man gani nay Point

    How can you Define a Person as Bad or Good if that Person Does Not believe in God?

    You define an Atheist who does Not believed in GOD using Theistic MORAL definition

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    A very bad Atheist?

    In what way we will DETERMINE or Classify a Bad Person from a Good Person? Scientifically? Logically?

    How about Stalin and Lenin? Chairman Mao? Kim Jong?
    good aand bad are subjective, determined by "least possible harm", or ratio of benefit over harm.
    if you cant see why that works, there's probably something wrong with your morality

    stalin? lenin? mao? jong? eeeeeenk. Did they do bad things IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM?? akong balikon, IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM?

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    A very bad Atheist?

    In what way we will DETERMINE or Classify a Bad Person from a Good Person? Scientifically? Logically?

    How about Stalin and Lenin? Chairman Mao? Kim Jong?

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    Unsay naka Good sa Point nga wala man gani nay Point

    How can you Define a Person as Bad or Good if that Person Does Not believe in God?

    You define an Atheist who does Not believed in GOD using Theistic MORAL definition

    1st of all hitler is a Christian...not to mention ang mga terorista nga mopatay og tawo kay abi nila instrument sila sa ginoo para mosend og tawo sa langit...pero mas worst ang imong ginoo kaysa kang hitler kay mosunog ang imong ginoo og tawo sa impyerno forever basta dili mo-apil sa iyang club...

    2nd..
    I don't need a book to tell me if killing is right or wrong....kung kailangan pa kag libro para mahibal-an nimo kung unsay sayop or dili then makaingon ko boang ka...immoral pa jud ang imong libro... nag endorse og genocide, eternal torment, bashing babies to the head, death punishment for homosexuals, slavery, child abuse, basta dili mo-honor sa sabath day is punishable by death...your 2000 year old book made my desert dwellers is very disturbing...

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