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  1. #491

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    You mean Personal Belief?

    know enough? you already admitted not doing it yourself, reading it from someone else and then you will say you know enough?

    When you believed about Dinosaurs existing millions of years ago, coming from a person who based his principles on Physical Scientific Evidence - Which part or your OWN knowledge or your ' i do know enough' to support that your belief is True? Did you DO Something else by yourself to support your belief? OR IS all your proof Not yours and you Just copied it from Someone?
    mura gud na ug ikaw bay Siodenz, wla man ka nka study ug Theology or observed the existence of God personally, dili man ikaw ang nagsuwat sa bibliya, dili man sad ka pari or preacher or pastor sa inyong simbahan,. yet you come up with conclusions and have strong belief in your God.. there's no need to experiment or test it firsthand coz someone else with vast resources is doing it for us,,.. dont say i dont have the right to believe in cellphones just because dili ako ang nag imbento ana..

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    now my point here is that before nimo i slip under the rug ang usa ka study, its best that you read about it thoroughly, i think there is nothing wrong with that process..

  2. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    mura gud na ug ikaw bay Siodenz, wla man ka nka study ug Theology or observed the existence of God personally, dili man ikaw ang nagsuwat sa bibliya, dili man sad ka pari or preacher or pastor sa inyong simbahan,. yet you come up with conclusions and have strong belief in your God.. there's no need to experiment or test it firsthand coz someone else with vast resources is doing it for us,,.. dont say i dont have the right to believe in cellphones just because dili ako ang nag imbento ana..
    So you mean you have FAITH? so what you have right now is Faith on some other peoples experiments?

    So since you based your example on the Theist Belief. So we can say that the IDEA of ATHEISM itself is based on Physical Scientific Evidence. BUT ATHEIST - They ONLY HAVE FAITH in THEM. FAITH on some others Experiments. So unsay Difference ana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    now my point here is that before nimo i slip under the rug ang usa ka study, its best that you read about it thoroughly, i think there is nothing wrong with that process..
    The process is Not wrong but the DATA is Limited. A study can only take you some place, it will eventually get you to a point where it will say WE CANT EXPLAIN THAT, or We Dont have the Capacity or Ability to Explain that. So basically, you will arrive to a point where the DATA cannot give you confidence to derive an ABSOLUTE Conclusion. That's the Reality of SCIENCE.

    BUT the sad thing is that the People who USED science as their basis for their Belief DONT KNOW that what they have is ONLY FAITH.

  3. #493
    mao lagi nga we shouldn't be black and white when it comes to God and Science...
    kay cge tag lalis2x ug asay mas angayan sa duha...unya ang ending kay ang Ginoo muy nag introduce sa Science ngadto sa tao
    techinically murag mao na, 'cause if God is the creator of all things then that should include intelligence..

    ironically, the gift of intelligence is seemingly used by some to mock the Giver of the said Gift... Lol
    we can doubt and question the existence of a "GIVER" all we want...
    but concluding that everthing just came into place randomly without any purpose or generally, God's non-existence...would probably be an insult to the GIVER(God) if He exist.. Problem is, with the level of intelligence humanity currently have...
    i think we are not even close to 1% in terms of eligibility to be concluding Absolutes...
    wa pa man gani nato malukop ug istudyo atong kaugalingong Lawas,utok, DNA ...ug ang atong kaulgalingong planeta..unsa pa kaha ang Ginoo mismo?

    as a Theist, i am not absolutely concluding that there's God...but i personally know that there is..
    believing in His existence because of the wonders and mysteries this life and this world offers...i think it would somehow paint a smile on the givers face...again if He exist..

    surely, it would would be nice if we see the people acknowledging the presents we gave them..
    not necessarily but it would be preferred. i think God would also feel the same..and i think this is OT.Lol

  4. #494
    unsa namay purpose kon tanan na discover na? naa pa kahay sense kon natugkad na? challenging pa kaha kon ang tao kahibalo na tanan? hehhehe

  5. #495
    actually that's one of the reasons why i believe there is God, 'cause in this life no matter how successful we can be...
    there's always this little space in our hearts that's still looking for more...despite of the massiveness of the things we have...
    as if we are silently calling out for eternity...
    Last edited by noy; 05-31-2013 at 05:13 PM.

  6. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    actually that's one of the reasons why i believe there is God, 'cause in this life no matter how successful we can be...
    there's always this little space in our hearts that's still looking for more...despite of the massiveness of the things we have...
    as if we are silently calling out for eternity...
    bring kau iyang life kon kahibalo na sya tanan. hahahha..

  7. #497
    wala pa koy tao nailhan bai nga kahibaw tanan.. magpa sweto2x nuon...naay daghan...Lol

  8. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    bring kau iyang life kon kahibalo na sya tanan. hahahha..
    Thats why God Made the Universe so Big that even if Humankind will long be Gone, we still cant determine how big it is or go to the end of it.

  9. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    unsa namay purpose kon tanan na discover na? naa pa kahay sense kon natugkad na? challenging pa kaha kon ang tao kahibalo na tanan? hehhehe
    o kaayo bro! we will all have very peaceful, very happy and very harmonious lives... we will live our lives to the fullest while we are in this planet... we won't be wasting our time para mag discover2x ug mga challenge2x

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