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  1. #61

    ot: ohoy! nana sad si nefarian diri. hehe

    ont: @Butitor - ts if you dont mind, what incident sa imong life d.ay ang nahitabo nga nakapa.wala sa imong faith "kunuhay"? hehe

  2. #62
    Salamat kaayo sa mga nag post diri kay dili biased ug kadaghanan wala ng judge nako. Ambot ani uy, panahon ra makasulti kung mkabalik ko sa pagtuo o magkagulang kong naay grudge sa taas.
    Last edited by Butitor; 01-04-2014 at 06:28 AM.

  3. #63
    tagsa-tagsa bitaw, pero mao gani niagi ug kamatayon ang ginoo kay ang uban taw wala jud mutoo wala jud musalig, mao ganing ang ginoo nalang mismo niset ug example to pray for those who are lost. tinood nuon nga dapat pod nakay effort maluwas, pero dili pasabot imong faith ang kaluwasan. mismo ang ginoo ang kaluwasan dili ang pagtoo sa ginoo. mao na ang purpose pod sa why mangayo tag intervention sa ginoo nga luwasa ang soul sa kinsa man nasalaag. anyways if you dont believe in God anymore, you just renounced His name, but still u continue to do good which will save sa soul. still maybe masangit ka sa purgatory, which only the living will be able to pray for your soul. still magdebate mo ani kay way makaprove ani.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Butitor View Post
    Salamat kaayo sa mga nag post diri kay dili biased ug kadaghanan wala ng judge nako. Ambot ani uy, panahon ra makasulti kung mkabalik ko sa pagtuo o magkagulang kong naay grudge sa taas.
    ako, wajud koy experience nga grabe. swerte kaayu ko salamat sa Lord. pero i know some people example

    a family friend. he was a lay minister sa usa ka parish, a carpenter, a very religious person....til one day...
    namatay iyahang wife from illness, lupus i think.... nakabasol sa iyang self...
    kulang pa gikuha sa Ginoo ang iyahang eldest son, who was serving as an altar boy,...

    he quit being faithful, quit lay ministry.... never went to church again...even at present.

    i would understand, he couldnt blame anyone else... but we can do is pray for him and trust Him before his time comes too.

  5. #65
    Observe the life believing in God and not believing in God. Try to make a difference out of it.

    Di man ko relihiyoso og tigsimba kada-dominggo, pero I establish a deep relationship with God. I talk to him anywhere at anytime. Dako kaayo kog pagtuo niya though wa pa ko kaagi og dakong dagok sa akong kinabuhi mga challenges (dili problema) in life ra, nakaya man nuon, kay salig ra gid ko nia. And I try to understand the outcomes, it may not be the result that i wanted but still i try to understand the reason why, by reading the word of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthghost View Post
    OT: cge2 akong basahon, malamdagan pa diay ko

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    mawagtangan jd ka ug salig kung imung pagsalig kay dli 100% sure kay magduha2 nman ka kung dli ka 100% faithful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Pointing at somebody else? Never in my post I point you or them

    I pointed at the institution and their teachings. BTW in your bible I remember that when judgment day comes, only less than 15k(not sure but i think around 14k plus) people will be saved. I am not surprised with the numbers since majority are still brainwashed and can't get out

    PS: Wala mo mag wonder sa baby pamo sila na ga boot2x sa imohang pagtoo? And here's the most ironic part: The teachings tells you about Free Will but where's my free will when I am baptised without my consent?Think about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Yikes patay kadaghan tubagonon. brb brader.

    OnT: TS basta mao to ako sulti nimo. Don't be a slave.

  9. #69
    Im an atheist but i dont totally agree with nefarian.. sometimes abondoning or holding grudges against your faith is not a solution.. you only abandon something when you are psychologically ready for it.. instead talk to a shrink or someone that knows you and would listen to you..

  10. #70
    TS I have no doubts about God or his existence...but with His ways sometimes I have questions...Because often times what we want as an end (answers to our prayers), the means (how he does it) is not how we wanted it to be. This is where the rubber meets the road..this is where trust and faith comes to play. DO we still trust in His love that He will get us trough when we still don't see the light in the tunnel? I hope you still do kay wa na nibiya nimo...

    Besides, miske pag motoo kag Ginoo o dili...muabot ra gihapon ang problema..Inevitable na sa tawo...

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