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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    He the President did not try going against the flow for it's futile,
    the mechanism to fulfill needs to be fed and requires abidance.

    I'm probably just too stupid to understand these bunch of words, can you dumb it down a little bit please? I would like to understand what this means..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    And how sure are you that it's not Pnoy's intention to distribute the HL? MAYBE giunhan lang jud siya ni Corona aron makaingon ta mao na rason ngano galagot si Pnoy niya.


    Walay special niya mao bitaw ingon siya ug naa moy kaso then i file. As of now KMP pay ni file ug kaso.
    I don't think you're neutral, bro.

    If your assumptions lead to a partial notion, then you can't really call yourself "neutral".

    A real impartial or neutral person does not subject themselves to an assumption like you state here.

    Again, I think this political scenery in the Philippines abuses the power of impeachment. I'm not against it, but I'm not for it either. But as a common bystander I understand why Pnoy can dare his critics to impeach him. It's simply because he is secured. He's got both houses in the Congress locked up, that there is no fathomable way an impeachment would prosper in a house of representatives composed of half his partymates, and a senate that has a majority seemingly aligned with him. Also, there is no way those 19 senators would vote to impeach him and make themselves accomplices to the act of which PNoy is accused of.
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    I think "savings" is not clear as defined in the Constitution thus gave way to various abuses as what happened today. The administration says it is legal, but other lawmakers said its not. The abuse of the "savings" happened, I believe, using the GAA -- in which Enrile also used when giving the Senate savings to fellow Senators as additional funds for MOOE and not to be labelled as "bonuses and cash gifts".


    From 2012 General Appropriations Act Republic Act No. 10155
    RELEASE AND USE OF FUNDS

    Sec. 52. Use of Savings. The President of the Philippines, the Senate President, the Speaker of the
    House of Representatives, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the Heads of Constitutional Commissions
    enjoying fiscal autonomy, and the Ombudsman are hereby authorized to augment any item in this Act from
    savings in other items of their respective appropriations.


    Sec. 53. Meaning of Savings and Augmentation. Savings refer to portions or balances of any
    programmed appropriation in this Act free from any obligation or encumbrance which are: (i) still available
    after the completion or final discontinuance or abandonment of the work, activity or purpose for which the
    appropriation is authorized; (ii) from appropriations balances arising from unpaid compensation and related
    costs pertaining to vacant positions and leaves of absence without pay; and (iii) from appropriations balances realized from the implementation of measures resulting in improved systems and efficiencies and thus, enabled agencies to meet and deliver the required or planned targets, programs, and services approved in this Act at a lesser cost.


    Augmentation implies the existence in this Act of a program, activity, or project with an appropriation,
    which upon implementation or subsequent evaluation of needed resources, is determined to be deficient. In
    no case shall a non-existent program, activity, or project, be funded by augmentation from savings or by the
    use of appropriations otherwise authorized in this Act.


    Sec. 54. Priority in the Use of Savings. In the use of savings, priority shall be given to the
    augmentation of the amounts set aside for compensation, year-end bonus and cash gift, retirement gratuity,
    terminal leave benefits, old-age pension of veterans and other personnel benefits authorized by law, and
    those expenditure items authorized in agency special provisions and in other sections of the General
    Provisions in this Act.


    Sec. 55. Rules in the Realignment of Funds. Realignment of funds from one allotment class to
    another shall require prior approval of the DBM.


    Departments, agencies and offices are authorized to augment any item of expenditure within Personal
    Services and MOOE except confidential and intelligence funds which require prior approval of the President of
    the Philippines. However, realignment of funds among objects of expenditures within Capital Outlays shall
    require prior approval of the DBM.


    Notwithstanding the foregoing, realignment of any savings for the payment of magna carta benefits
    authorized under Section 40 hereof shall require prior approval of the DBM.


    Sec. 56. Mandatory Expenditures. The amounts programmed, particularly for, but not limited to,
    petroleum, oil and lubricants as well as for water, illumination and power services, telephone and other
    communication services, and rent requirements shall be disbursed solely for such items of expenditures:


    PROVIDED, That any savings generated from these items after taking into consideration the agency’s full
    year requirements may be realigned only in the last quarter and subject to the rules on the realignment of
    funds provided in the preceding section.


    Use of funds in violation of this section shall be void, and shall subject the erring officials and employees
    to disciplinary action in accordance with Section 43, Chapter 5 and Section 80, Chapter 7, Book VI of E.O. No. 292, and to appropriate criminal action under existing penal laws.


    Sec. 57. Expenditures for Business-Type Activities. Appropriations for the procurement of supplies
    and materials intended to be utilized in the conduct of business-type activities shall be disbursed solely for
    such business-type activity and shall not be realigned to any other expenditure item.
    Use of funds in violation of this section shall be void, and shall subject the erring officials and employees
    to disciplinary action in accordance with Section 43, Chapter 5 and Section 80, Chapter 7, Book VI of E.O. No. 292, and to appropriate criminal action under existing penal laws.


    Sec. 58. Confidential and Intelligence Funds. No amount in this Act shall be released or disbursed
    for confidential and intelligence activities unless approved by the President of the Philippines, or specifically
    identified and authorized as such confidential or intelligence fund in this Act.


    Confidential and intelligence funds provided for in the budgets of departments, bureaus and agencies
    including amounts from savings authorized by special provisions to be used for intelligence and counterintelligence activities, shall be released only upon approval of the President of the Philippines:
    PROVIDED, That at least eighty percent (80%) of confidential and intelligence funds shall be used for field operations.


    All departments, bureaus and agencies shall submit to the President of the Philippines a quarterly report
    on the accomplishments in the use of confidential and intelligence funds.


    Implementation of this section shall be subject to guidelines to be issued by the DBM.


    Sec. 59 Realignment of Funds for Foreign-Assisted Projects. The amount appropriated in this Act
    for the implementation of foreign-assisted projects, including loan proceeds and peso counterpart, shall not be realigned except to other foreign-assisted projects: PROVIDED, That an agency may, with valid reason
    realign from one sub-project to another within the same foreign-assisted project as long as total project cost as prescribed in the relevant loan agreement is not exceeded.


    Sec. 60. Availability of Appropriations. Appropriations for MOOE and Capital Outlays authorized in
    this Act shall be available for release and obligation for the purpose specified, and under the same special
    provisions applicable thereto, for a period extending to one fiscal year after the end of the year in which such
    items were appropriated: PROVIDED, That a report on these releases and obligations shall be submitted to
    the Senate Committee on Finance and House Committee on Appropriations, either in printed form or by way
    of electronic document.


    Sec. 61. Prohibition Against Impoundment of Appropriations. No appropriations authorized under
    this Act shall be impounded through retention or deduction, unless in accordance with the rules and
    regulations to be issued by the DBM: PROVIDED, That all the funds appropriated for the purposes,
    programs, projects, and activities authorized under this Act, except those covered under the Unprogrammed
    Fund, shall be released pursuant to Section 33 (3), Chapter 5, Book VI of E.O. No. 292.

    Last 15th Congress, there were bills filed to curtail accountability and transparency in government on how it expends public funds.

    2108. HB02923 [History] [Text As Filed, 696k]
    AN ACT DEFINING THE CONCEPT OF SAVINGS AND REGULATING THE PROCESS OF AUGMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT IN IMPLEMENTATION OF ARTICLE VI, SECTION 25 (5) OF THE CONSTITUTION
    Principal Author: BELLO, WALDEN
    Main Referral: APPROPRIATIONS
    Status: Referred to stakeholders on 2011-05-02
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/download/...15/HB02923.pdf

    3582. HB04992 [History] [Text As Filed, 73k]
    AN ACT DEFINING THE TERM "SAVINGS" AS USED IN THE NATIONAL BUDGET AND PROVIDING GUIDELINES FOR ITS USE AND EXPENDITURE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
    Principal Author: TAÑADA, LORENZO III REYES
    Main Referral: APPROPRIATIONS
    Status: Pending with the Committee on APPROPRIATIONS since 2011-08-08

    http://www.congress.gov.ph/download/...15/HB04992.pdf

    15th Congress
    Senate Bill No. 2181
    BUDGET SAVINGS ACT OF 2010
    Filed on July 28, 2010 by Guingona III, Teofisto "Tg"

    Long title

    AN ACT DEFINING THE TERM "SAVINGS" AS USED IN THE NATIONAL BUDGET AND PROVIDING GUIDELINES FOR ITS USE AND EXPENDITURE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
    Scope

    National
    Legislative status

    Pending in the Committee (9/20/2010)
    http://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/97978358!.pdf
    Last edited by cliff_drew; 10-03-2013 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    I don't think you're neutral, bro.

    If your assumptions lead to a partial notion, then you can't really call yourself "neutral".

    A real impartial or neutral person does not subject themselves to an assumption like you state here.

    Again, I think this political scenery in the Philippines abuses the power of impeachment. I'm not against it, but I'm not for it either. But as a common bystander I understand why Pnoy can dare his critics to impeach him. It's simply because he is secured. He's got both houses in the Congress locked up, that there is no fathomable way an impeachment would prosper in a house of representatives composed of half his partymates, and a senate that has a majority seemingly aligned with him. Also, there is no way those 19 senators would vote to impeach him and make themselves accomplices to the act of which PNoy is accused of.
    Yes,you're right, I think that because most of the people in Congress and Senate are allied or in coalition with his party that his confident that he won't be impeach but I think that's just part of the reason. The bigger reason might be is that majority of the Filipino people still trust him as president and that any impeachment moves would be deemed as an agenda, not for the good of the country but for the good of those now implicated on this PDAF issue. Sa binisiya pa kung isagol nasad ni ang DAP sa PDAF issue mosamot gyud ni ka lubog, ug mahimo pa ning gubot pa ni sa lukot ang mga imbestigasyon, mas maayo kung usa2xhon lng sa para naa gyud ma sampolan...nya mo domino effect nya na...

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    if only napolese will really tell all sigurado man jud unta daghan mangadawit ani including na gyud na ang naa sa palasyo it will really end up on the palace doorstep but unsaon nga si napolese nagsiniguro naman sa iya kaugalingon di jud ko mutuoo nga wa ni siyay deal nga gihimo ni pnoy naa jud ni silay under the table deal , impossible kaayo nga way deal , hinatod gud pagsurrender

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    I don't think you're neutral, bro.

    If your assumptions lead to a partial notion, then you can't really call yourself "neutral".

    A real impartial or neutral person does not subject themselves to an assumption like you state here.

    Again, I think this political scenery in the Philippines abuses the power of impeachment. I'm not against it, but I'm not for it either. But as a common bystander I understand why Pnoy can dare his critics to impeach him. It's simply because he is secured. He's got both houses in the Congress locked up, that there is no fathomable way an impeachment would prosper in a house of representatives composed of half his partymates, and a senate that has a majority seemingly aligned with him. Also, there is no way those 19 senators would vote to impeach him and make themselves accomplices to the act of which PNoy is accused of.

    Not including the congressmen who supposedly received between 10m-15m from DAP.

    Honestly not once in my entire life I voted for someone during elections. Since 18 until now never ko nakaparegister haha(If you go to the extent of debunking me nga dili ni true ako claim then you can always check the archives in the Comelec).
    Neither sad ko so active aning politics until now nga ni buto ning pork barrel. I'm only pointing out the things that HAD happened and put myself in their shoes and think what would I do if I were Pres. Aquino. Every action there's a motive. I'm only giving out what could be a probable motive. It's like connecting dots until a the puzzle is solved. And it's not my fault why the good things points to Aquino.

    Mao jud ni ako na observe ug I think kamo sad siguro nakabantay ani. "Ug kinsa tong mubuhat ug maayo mao pay kontrahan or bati sa tanan"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakizta View Post
    if only napolese will really tell all sigurado man jud unta daghan mangadawit ani including na gyud na ang naa sa palasyo it will really end up on the palace doorstep but unsaon nga si napolese nagsiniguro naman sa iya kaugalingon di jud ko mutuoo nga wa ni siyay deal nga gihimo ni pnoy naa jud ni silay under the table deal , impossible kaayo nga way deal , hinatod gud pagsurrender
    IMO the deal between NAPOLES and AQUINO would be to spare his Brother LIM. Are you not wondering why LIM her brother isn't caught yet? Hahaha assumption ha. Ayaw ko birahi.

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    wa koy pakialam kong naa na siya deal ni pnoy about sa iyang bro , ang akong pakialam og hoping nga unta si napolese will expose all and not only selective expose nga idawit lang ang mga kontra sa palasyo unya dili apilon ang tanan .kabaw ka selective expose ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    I'm probably just too stupid to understand these bunch of words, can you dumb it down a little bit please? I would like to understand what this means..
    It's simple,
    the President is not dumb enough to apply the matuwid na daan scheme to this crooks for it will never work.
    Justice should be served and the corrupt should go to jail and Corona as the chief justice of the judiciary appointed
    by the corrupt would certainly defend the appointer. He need these crooks to get rid of Corona and he did submit himself
    towards the demand so that these crooks would work on it. The legislative could never influence nor insinuate the legislative
    and the judiciary in legal terms.

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    there is no problem in getting the crooks from the previous administration

    but he need to clean up also his administration now..kasagaran sa mga cabinet members niya kay kay kang GMA rsad gikan

    ni jump ship rna cla kay kabalo man cla nga paduong na lunod c GMA..imposible kung mga anghel na mga tawhana

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