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    ^ part gihapon na sa crab mentality boss.
    manamay ug bira sa ubos.

    kay abi nag kalisod man sila gusto nila apil sad ang tanan.. w/o looking at the cause nganong nag lisod sila

    back to topic:

    dapat lang sad jud ni habwaon ang tinaguan ani atong pulitiko.. kay murag millions ug billions na ang ilang mga deposits.. samtang ang uban wa jud gani savings..

    ATM ra unya igo ra mo sud ang kwarta, hubas pud dayon..

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    Ugma na first batch filing sa kaso. By batch pasabot pirte jud guro daghana lol. Kini akong gihuwat ang mapusasan ug mangapriso ning mga buang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Ugma na first batch filing sa kaso. By batch pasabot pirte jud guro daghana lol. Kini akong gihuwat ang mapusasan ug mangapriso ning mga buang.
    dugay pa kaau na mapusasan bro.
    unsa nasad kaha gimik ani nila

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    Usa na na ang gubat sa zamboanga

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    klaro na kaayong pattern nga ang file an og kaso ang mga opposition nga nalambigit aning pdaf scam /ngo , ang admin senators og tongressmen ani uwahi pa ni , gimaniubra ni sa coa / in connivance with the palace top honchos , paingon ingon pas pnoy sauna nga no sacred cows in my govt pero tan awa ,pag gawas sa pics ni drilon maayong pagka agbay sa abaga ni jimmy napoles nya dili sila kuno amigo pure chance to nga pic ilara ninyo ang mga tawong masud sa inyong bulsa . si lacierda nahimong sopekesperson ni drilon ,paskang grabeha kaayo og cover up ning mga tawhana uy

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebugdev View Post
    Theres always the PREsumption of "Innocence unti proven guilty" and that thing they called DUE process.
    this is to PROTECT rights of citizens from UNLAWFAL accusations.
    pero dri sa Pilipinas ang mga taw kay Suspect or Alleged pa gani, iaccuse naman dayun without due process, tungod sa media ug immaturity, so if ma proven gani na "not guilty" ang accused, then ang mga taw maglagot tungod nag expect na daan ang mga taw sa result.
    this kind of mindset sa pinoy ang i think pinaka bati aside from crab mentality.
    So you mean sir @cebugdev that I cannot accuse someone without DUE PROCESS

    Will you enlighten my feeble brain on what is the due process before I can accuse someone?

    I honestly did not know that there is due process in accusing someone.

    I do understand the fact that you should not be convicted without due process, … but DUE PROCESS before you can accuse someone?

    Seriously What law is that?

    Have you ever had a father die because of due process?

    How about any relative who died because of due process?

    Have you been in a public/government hospital before and saw how many citizens are uncared and untreated because of due process?

    Have you ever seen a person DIE IN A HOSPITAL because of due process?

    Have you worked two jobs at the same time in highschool and college just to support yourself because of due process that your scholarship never arrives on time?

    Have you worked for more than three and a half years and yet your SSS contributions only reflect 6 months because of due process?

    Have you ever seen a policeman die in the course of duty because of due process he was not able to get the needed attention from our government hospital?

    Have you seen soldiers fighting rebels and yet beg for food from the community because of due process?

    IF you haven’t answered yes to any of the above, then with all “due process” sir, you should congratulate yourself in doing a good job shielding yourself of the harsh realities of life. Would you care to enlighten us how you did it?

    You are saying that I have crab-mentality because I quoted another person and agreed to his idea of bombing the senate and that makes me a crab right? Kinsa kaha mas daghan napatay na mga tawo? Si Napoles and associates who are the suspects of a multi-Billion misuse of the citizen's money or ako nga ni agree lang sa idea nga bombahan ang Senate?

    How about Napoles, is she the heroine here?

    Comparing me to Napoles and the other accused individuals, am I the one accused of stealing BILLIONS of PESOS?

    Am I living a life of luxury while millions of Filipinos are starving? Am I worse than Napoles and the other accused because even if I pay my taxes diligently, you say that I have crab mentality?

    Are you saying that crab mentality is worse than stealing?

    Due process you say? How many people have you ever heard of being convicted of graft, corruption, plunder or any related case where the person was convicted thru due process and stayed in jail until now?

    Name me at least one who is still in jail.

    Erap would have been an example and yet he is now serving again as a mayor. He did spend some time in jail but did he die there? He used due process to get out of jail and run again for mayor.

    How many people die of hunger every year in the Philippines because of your due process?

    How many people die in hospitals every year because your due process stalled them forever.

    Don't get me wrong, I do observe the laws and order of the land that is why I fall in line for hours for clearances and such and not pay fixers of any sort. I pay my tax diligently even if I know that a very small percentage of it is being used properly, if there is any at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burn777 View Post
    ^ part gihapon na sa crab mentality boss.
    manamay ug bira sa ubos.

    kay abi nag kalisod man sila gusto nila apil sad ang tanan.. w/o looking at the cause nganong nag lisod sila
    Pwede nimu ma explain sir @burn777 kung asa man ang mas dako ug impact, ang usa ka tawo nga ni uyon lang sa us aka violent method or si Napoles na accused of being the handler/mastermind of making dummy companies to enable some politicians to hide the people’s taxes and enabling them to use it for their advantage and empowerment?
    Based sa imu pag like sa gi ingon si cebugdev about crab mentality and adding your own thoughts to it, you are saying that I have crab mentality. Kasabot ba jud ka unsay crab mentality sir? Paki explain kuno sir palihug.

    Sa ako pagsabot, ang crab mentality is kana imu da-uton ang usa ka tawo like for example co-worker nimu na same level unya siya kay ma promote, imu himu-on, imu siya da-uton para dili ma promote. Or let us say manager na siya, imu gi daut, para ma futbol sa trabaho niya and then ikaw ma puli. Mao na crab mentality sir.

    In my case sir, whatever I say in this forum, wala na epekto sa kaso ni Napoles ug sa mga accused. I am just airing out the frustrations I have against the accused. IF they are found to be innocent from such accusations, then I do accept that decision no matter how upset it might make me.
    Quote Originally Posted by burn777 View Post
    ^ part gihapon na sa crab mentality boss.
    manamay ug bira sa ubos.

    kay abi nag kalisod man sila gusto nila apil sad ang tanan.. w/o looking at the cause nganong nag lisod sila
    You must be a genius or a powerful mind reader to deduct that I am in such a state.

    How did you know that? Anak ka ni madam Auring sir?

    Kabalo lagi ka nga nag ka lisod ko. Amazing, simply amazing sir burn777.

    I won’t even try to convince you how hard my life is. So anyone now who talks about how they feel about this issue is a very poor individual with a bad case of crab mentality.

    If you run for politics sir @burn777, I am quite confident that you would be a great politician because you still managed to blame the citizens who are the obvious victims and turned them into culprits. Basically, how I understand it, what you are saying is that everyone who is poor has no one to blame for it but themselves and the rich people like you should not do anything about it neither fight for the rights of the poor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethzki03 View Post
    dugay pa kaau na mapusasan bro.
    unsa nasad kaha gimik ani nila
    lagi, nindot kaayo unta kung mahitabo na but ang pangutana nato ani is did we really catch the big fish here or are we just scratching the tip of the iceberg here. It now makes sense why a lot of politicians would kill for such positions.

    Also, how severe would be the penalties they get aside from going to jail?

    I hope this would drive a slight semblance of honesty and integrity into the other politicians that they would use the tax money for the good of the people.

    Sa US bitaw, if ma feel nimu nga dili sakto ang paggamit sa imu taxes sa usa ka mayor or governor or other elected official ky pwede man makiha. Sa ato, wala jud tawon dungog or action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Karon Monday naa nay filing of cases. Bahala ug dugay basta naay agi. Dili sad ni lalim na kaso kay halos tanan politicians kawatan. Kanindot paminawon nga makita nimo gipangpusasan na hinay2x ang mga baboy. I keep my hopes high ani. Ang atoa lang dili ni nato ibaon sa kalimot. Mao na padayon ta ani hangtod maniguwang ta hangtod dili makabayad ang naay sala.
    sakto jud sir. bahala hinay ang uswag basta ni uswag. ang lisod lang ani kung makalimtan tungod sa kadugay sa process. Mao raba na style sa mga kaso kay ipa prolong as possible until one party gives up.

    naa ko nakita somewhere sa internet about unsay mahitabo sa usa ka kawatan in different countries but it goes like this:

    Kung sa US, ang kawatan ma priso.

    Kung sa Middle East, putlan ug ulo.

    Kung sa Japan, putlan ug kamot.

    Kung sa China, i firing squad.

    Kung sa Pinas, awww... mu demand pa ug doctor unya murag tag line sa usa ka FM station, "Hayahay!"

  8. #58
    @The_Watcher:sir, ang "pagkaharuhay" is based on your capability and capacity. not the govts'

    "the life you made is the life you chose!" period

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    Demand kau ang wheelchair run panahuna.

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    kung masilutan mn gani ning mga tawhana, i do hope it's death penalty. para dili na ni sila managhan pa. aron mo tagam ba. para kung naa mn gani mo dagan pagka politiko sunod, at least magbantay2x na sila sa ilang mga lihok. tinud-anay na jud nga public service...

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