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  1. #601

    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Mu comment ra ko ani noy about tradition...actually if you read the bible Jesus is also against the tradition made by men because its contrary to what was written. You can read Mark 7:8. Now if you follow the tradition made men which is contrary to what was written then that separates you from the Lord. Diba?
    how did you know that Jesus was referring to the Catholic Traditions, when the Catholic traditions are with no other purpose but to give God the glory.

    how yould you interpret this bible verse then, KJV
    2 Thessalonians 2:15
    Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the TRADITIONS which ye have been taught, whether BY WORD, or our epistle.

    kung mark7:8 ray atong basahun dritso, we might really think that Jesus was referring to any kind of Tradition
    but if you read from verses 5 - 8 bro in mark chapter 7
    which states:

    "So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
    6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
    “‘These people honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
    7 They worship me in vain;
    their teachings are merely human rules.’[a]
    8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

    Jesus was referring to Old Testament Laws, Jewish Traditions and Mosaic Law for physical righteousness..
    as why should one would hold to the partial traditions over the fulfillment(Christ)
    and Jesus called them hypocrite cause He knew the reason why the Pharisees asked Him which is to trick Him.
    because of their attachment to the Law(Fundamentalism) instead of seeing Jesus as the promised messiah they ended up
    missing Him, so till now Jews are still waiting for their messiah, except for Catholic Jews and Messianic Jews.
    example would be: one of the reasons why the Pharisees did not believe in Jesus as they were too focused on the scripture where it says no phophet will come from Galilee but missed the part where the messiah was prophesied that He will called a Galilean.

    Jesus obviously is the fulfillment of the Jewish tradition and the mosaic law so obviously we should no longer hold unto those traditions
    unless you are a Jew like the disciples(though you have the freedom not to)

    Point is, when Christ fulfilled the Jewish Law, Christ started a whole new tradition with the new and final covenant
    which is later called the Christian tradition or Sacred Traditions..
    as Judaism is fulfilled by Christianity.

    akong pangutana karun bro, kinsa may nag ingun nimu nga the verse in the book of mark where jesus rebuked the pharisees
    refer to the Catholic Tradition?
    Last edited by noy; 04-12-2013 at 10:28 PM.

  2. #602
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    bro, kasabot ko ana.
    but each one of us though how foolish we are, therell be times nga magponder ta unsa jud ang kamatuoran, that's why i share the verses. I know one day, ang atong pagka immature motulisok ra nato most especially in times of deep sorrow and pain.
    Again ... I ask you, You know he's just being sarcastic... right
    It's inane to share insight to people who already refused such insight before you spill it.


    Why pamper life's complexities when the leather runs smooth on the passenger seat?

  3. #603
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Like what specifically bro?
    yes/no question galing..Lol

    again, kung mutunga si Jesus karun sa imung atubangan..sure ka nga mu approve siya sa imung imung gipangstorya kabahin sa Bible
    ug sa imung interpretasyon?
    kahibaw na ka unsa tong mga interpretation sa certain bible verses nga naka ingun ka nga ang RCC kay nagtudlo ug idolatry..etc
    perting daghana break,
    iapil nalang pud tong si Constantine maoy nagtukod sa RCC unya iyang gi mix ang paganism ug christianity...

    unsa kahay tan.aw ni Jesus bro,
    ayaw ko tagae ug bible verse ha kay natural muingun jud kag nahisulat unya kay apilan man nimu ug imung interpretasyon...

    so APPROVE kaha si Jesus ani tanang nimung interpretation?claims against RCC?
    kining imung pagshare nga walay pugsanay pero way balibaray...Lol

    approve si Jesus bro?

  4. #604
    Quote Originally Posted by newbie.86 View Post
    LOL... break's analysis of the artwork is a product of an over-the-top imagination.
    give the guy a credit bro, dili lalim mag imagine ug mga conspiracies hinlabi nag pangita sa mga youtube clips unya murag mo uyon pud aton salabutan......
    Nakuuuu!

  5. #605
    Quote Originally Posted by newbie.86 View Post
    join kas pundok ni break bai para kamu ra maluwas.
    di na kinahanglan ug pundok brad, breakeven knows the TRUTH. ug iya ray insakto
    sayop uban...what match does a church or doctrines when you have breakeven...Lol

    kalingaw ra ni break ha, and dili man ni buot2x akong giistorya pud...
    nag base ra pud ko sa imung mga statement,claims and your level of certainty when you say
    you're absolutely right about yout views...i'll give you that.

  6. #606
    Wala pa jud nag daug .

    Seriously .... if BREAKEVEN will just ANSWER my question with a YES or NO .

    Did you get the or source out the picture from here :

    The Lies We Believe In | Towards Healthcare Emancipation

    But BREAKEVEN seems to avoid my question .

    From the answer of YES or NO ..... problem SOLB !!!! Dili na unta mo abot ug 60 pages lols.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  7. #607
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    Wala pa jud nag daug .

    Seriously .... if BREAKEVEN will just ANSWER my question with a YES or NO .

    Did you get the or source out the picture from here :

    The Lies We Believe In | Towards Healthcare Emancipation

    But BREAKEVEN seems to avoid my question .

    From the answer of YES or NO ..... problem SOLB !!!! Dili na unta mo abot ug 60 pages lols.
    that makes two of us master! Lol
    wala pud bitaw niya tubaga akong Yes/No question...

  8. #608
    The equation of this which I believed positions BREAK's stand is that :

    If indeed he took it from that site , he is here to BASH and DISCREDIT the RCC by mocking the HOLY SEE rather than his CLAIM of searching for the TRUTH. Mao man na ang scapegoat niya where he can actually just post a picture pertaining the SCULPTURE but ngano i apil pa man jud ang CARDINALS and SANTO PAPA of their presence . Sugnuran pa ug nagka daiyang na YOUTUBE VIDEOS lols .

    On the otherhand ..... if by goodfaith he took it somewhere where the source was a link not intended or meant as a site that is ANTI CATHOLIC .... ngano hantod karon di man niya mahatag ang LINK ?

    It only shows na nag play safe siya by avoiding it but explains in an irrelevant manner . I now believed though na di jud ni BAKAKON si BREAKEVEN and I salute your honesty by keeping quite about it. Oi .... honesty ? bawal baya ang WORKS sa inyoha kay FAITH ALONE ra man mo lols . Puslan man , sagaron na nato pero di ko mo generalized ha ... ikaw ug ang minions lang nimo diri.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  9. #609
    Basta religion na gani storyahan di gyud mo maghuman ... kay it covers a whole lot unya mag sige lang ug simang ang storya. Preha ron .. asa na mo naabot sa inyong storya bisag ang Art Piece raman unta ang gi istoryahan ...


    Why pamper life's complexities when the leather runs smooth on the passenger seat?

  10. #610
    And that exactly is the whole brouhaha , the ART PIECE ang topic which the medium is a WOOD SCULPTURE pero ang target kay ang Holy See . Pwerting simanga jud.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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