SATAN'S THRONE? unsa inyong tan-aw aning naa sa luyo?

[Breakeven]

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same like those people nga mag house to house...and not even care nga wa pa gali diay ka luto ang tag balay and na-a pay mga labhonon nga nag huwat..na-a pay bata atimanon... ug uban pang mga butang.. mao na ang point nga kon gusto ka toho-an ka and makuha nimo ang attention sa tawo.na-ay saktong oras og saktong lugar para ana and pinaka importante wala kay gi atake nga particular nga religion ang imoha lang tuyo ang pag share sa words of GOD, pag share sa verses sa mga bible nga maka kuha tag lessons sa atong adlaw2x na pag struggle sa atong kinabuhi... but kong mo hisgut na gali ka og particular na religion nga sayop ilang teachings..lahi napod na nga istorya.... pang hinaway og pag butang2x napod nag sala sa usa ka group.religion..labi nag ma timingan nimo nga ang tawo successful sa iyang status and na-ay nay mga situations sa life nga iya na agi-an where na proved niya nga iyang pag salig sa gino-o pina agi sa iyang gi toho-an nga religion ni work sa iyang spiritual life.

Sakto mana bro. but we have to know that naay butang sa kinabuhi we might think nana ta sa insakto but destruction diay ang end ana. Being successful in life bro ma achieve na sa tanang taw, ma buddhist man, hindu, muslim, etc. But we are talking about the way to eternal life.

Proverbs 14:12
There is a way which seems right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

[monrose29]

ato sa taga-an og chance and patubagon nato si breakeven aning mga links gi post ni tweater... unsa may iyang ma sulti ana...

[Breakeven]

Baptist Bro,
nakasulay ko ug pangutana,
almost all of them.
Magsige ka ug sulti ug Sin, unya magsige pud ka
ug bash sa simbahan ni Jesus Christ,
maorag hipokrito na pud kaayo ka ana, o dili kaha
most probably kampon ni satanas.Ops sorry.

First, you have to know what is a church bro...dili baptist, RCC nga building, etc. The church is the universal body of believers in Christ which is separated from the world for his purpose (God's Kingdom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HblDVFgkrsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsR48mXSjds

[Kutokuyamadkuslad]

Break, last na lang jud ni promise. After this I'm out.

The saints, crucifix, the Pope, Virgin Mary, the Rosary, etc.... they're what define us as Catholics. Karon kung imo ning ipatangtang, kay false teaching lagi, dili na mi Katoliko ana. But as I said in my previous post, this is the Truth as we see it. Mao among tinuho-an.

And mind you, kanang mga gipangbuhat sa ubang Katoliko, ila nang choice. We all have free will. Di na nato kontrolado ang kinabuhi sa usa ka tawo. Kung ikaw relihiyoso, but you don't live the Christian way, well, tulubagon na nimo sa Ginoo. Maski ako, dili tanang mando sa Simbahan akong gisunod. Pareho anang RH Bill, I'm all for it. Maski against ang Simbahan ana.

So ayaw ipamugos imong nakat-onan sa Baptist diri namong mga Katoliko. If you found the Catholic teachings lacking, imoha na na. Di mi mamugos sad nimo pabalik sa Katoliko.

[Breakeven]

Are you really sure about this? As in 100% sure? Hala unsa ng link sa ubos boss?

StopBaptistPredators.org
scandals

Layoa ra sa imong tubag bro uie....bisan kinsa nga religion/taw walay exempted anang sexual desires. Ang pangutana diha kung mao ba na ang ilang gikinabuhi permi. Do they dwell into that kind of situation? labi na jud kung silay nagpasiugda.

[noy]

an example of personal and denominational interpretaion? That is not true. INC, E. Soriano, Quiboloy and other denominations have the same understanding as mine regarding that verse. Pag tsur Noi oi.

so kay abi ning confirm si Quiboloy ug ang INC sa inyong interpretation, does it follow nga mao jud nay TRUTH?

so unsa may basis nimu nganu nakaingun man ka nga ang inyong interpretation ray insakto?
kung muingun ka nga revelation na sa Ginoo, how sure are you nga sa Ginoo jud na?
to think nga kita tagsa2x, pwede maka mugna ug kaugalingung interpretation..pwede pa jud apilan pas kontra
and RCC however, though involved ug daghang controversy,as far as teachings lang and concerned,has been like that since she was established.

why did it took 1500 years before your interpretation about the Biblical verses perceived to be Anti-catholic to burst forth?
why do new generation protestans have significant differences with Martin Luthers interpretation, martin luther had marian devotions,
martin luther had no problem with veneration of saints, while others even destroy images of saints..
nganu man na bai? is that a sign of divine revelation?

Nabasa na na nako imo link. Di ra ko ganahan mu comment since you dont solicit to ask. Why dont we stop using outside sources nalang dinhi to explain our stance? Para way maghunahuna nato nga way nakabasa nato sa mga gipang quote nato nga links.

the link does not state my POV nor my opinion on the subject of idol worship.
the link provides non-catholics a direct answer coming from the magesterium or the Catechism of the catholic church.
kay kasagaran non-catholics would say nga ang teaching sa Katoliko sayop, mao ni post kog link regarding actual teachings
di man ta kaingun kay abi badlongon ang myembro sa usa ka pundok mao jud nay gitudlo sa ilang pundok diba?

We should remember, its not our/my intention to hurt anyone here. Because I love the RCC, and other christians from other denominations, I love my family, my relatives and neighbors as well as the family of my wife.

Good for you bai if that's the case
however, if you truly Love the RCC, then you would study her teachings not necessarily for acceptance but for understanding whenever you think catholics worship idols or unsa pa nang kasagaran ninyo i istorya sa amu bai
have you asked and searched if mao ba jud kaha ni ang gitudlo sa Simbahang Katoliko?

mura gud ug naa kay igsoon nga giingnan imung isa ka igsoon nga nakasala...or maski pag ikaw nakakita pud
pero tungod kay wa man ka kahibaw sa tanang panghitabo, ug labaw sa tanan love nimu imung both ka igsoon
imu jud nang paminawon both sides diba?

Yes. Pwedi man ka magdala ug picture sa imo wife basta picture jud na sa imo wife kay kung di pag abot sa imo wife, pagtanaw sa imo wallet, magkaproblem jud ka sa imo wife. Hehehe.

sa resulta ra na daugon bai, kung wala pa na grasyahi sa Ginoo iyang representation(of course di jud na identical sa Tinuod ha)
gigaba-gabaan na unta nang tanang Katoliko run.
wala na unta nay grasya ning abut sa ilang kinabuhi, wala na untay mga kinabuhi nga nanga usab sa mga Katoliko karun..

"being discreet "....Thank you for for understanding religious freedom and spiritual sportsmanship.

"apostolic traces"....I am sorry, but we donot follow your traces of apostleship Bro. Please respect me on this. I hope you know already why. Perhaps you may mock at what happened to the division of protestantism, but you have to understand, it is not about protestantism, making a new religion, a pastor, bishop etc, but its about the recovery of the truth, Christ and the church. We should be heading to that direction.

One should not Lord over one's own interpretation of the bible. if you read the book of Daniel, Daniel was not a leader of religious body when he was asked by Nebuchadnezar to interpret message from God through his dream. He was just a plain young captive from Judah. See, even as young as Daniel can interpret. Interpretations belons to God.

wa man nay problema ug di ka mudawat sa amung apostolic traces natural kay di bya ka Katoliko. di pud namu na ipamugos
pero nangutana man ka kung unsay sato nga interpretation. i answered it should have a firm bases..
uu kita tanan gi gasahan sa Holy Spirit, pero kita tanan pud naay flesh(barrier sa spiritual realm)
capable to have our own interpretation, so unsaon man nato pagkabalo nga sa Holy Spirit jud ni gikan?
walay laing paagi kung dili mu stick ta sa Sacred Traditions that can be traced down to the Apostles themselves.
as for RCC ,from St. Peter and the Apostolic Fathers.
i would have to ask you then? how do you trace your church from the Aposles? who founded your church? and who started the interpretations that you hold today..di pud ka kaingun ug si Luther kay like i said earlier, maski sa mga Lutherans doctrines
perting daghana ninyo ug diprensiya sa usag usa..Lutheran Catholics are even seeking full communion with the Roman Catholic Church, so ang Lutherans napud ang atakihon ani sunod...hehehe...
so si Luther sayop pud to? kadtong mga protestante nga di prehas ug stand sa inyong mga interpretation, sayop pud?
nganu lahi2x man mo ug interpretasyon run?

exactly my point bro, i agree with you that no one should Lord over one's own interpretation.
si Daniel was a Prophet of course...kung kinsa man gani nagpasiugda anang inyong interpretasyon karun was He a prohet?
i know di ka mutoo sa among apostolic traces but the catholic doctrines are not only based from sacred scriptures
but sacred traditions as well handed by the Apostles themselves, remember, the first bible was compiled much much later than Christianity
therefore ,early Christians were obviously not bible only christians. that's where sacred traditions comes in.

[monrose29]

same ra pod na sa imo bro.. you might think nga insakto pod ka sa imong views and ways of beliefs but at the end destruction ra pod diay unya ang padulngan.. same as those saying na wala pay buhi ni balik sa kalibutan arong ingnan ta mga tawo nga na-ay gino-o..sakto ang Baptist..sayop ang RCC.. or either way..

as what you said bro na-ay mga butang sa kinabuhi na we might think na isakto ta... now think again sa mga butang sa imong kinabuhi.... you talked about RCC priests and its teachings. how bout those pastors mentioned in tweaters links?

[Breakeven]

So you mean Breakeven, tanang miembro sa inyong relihiyon buotan, dili makasasala, ug mahilangit tungod sa inyong pagtuo?
Unya kaming tanang Katoliko, badlungon, dapat naa sa prisohan, ug maimpyerno sa katapusan?
Sure jud ka ana ha. And that's according to whom? According to your religion, right?

Ayaw pagbutang2 ug statement kung dili na mao sa imong paminaw bro. Did i say such thing?

[Breakeven]

Lingawa basa ani nga link oi. Mao d i ni ang kamatuoran nga buot pasabot ni TS.

Child *** abuse by Protestant clergy difficult to document
Large number of denominations, nature of hierarchy make task elusive
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/arti...nt_clergy.html

no need man manguhag evidence sa laing taw/nasud bro.
Tan awa mismo sa imong palibot unsay situation.

[twEATer]

Layoa ra sa imong tubag bro uie....bisan kinsa nga religion/taw walay exempted anang sexual desires. Ang pangutana diha kung mao ba na ang ilang gikinabuhi permi. Do they dwell into that kind of situation? labi na jud kung silay nagpasiugda.

Para nako sakto ako tubag. Kay murag imu gaipalabas righteous kaayo mo. Diha ba d i basehan ang kamaayo sa usa ka religion kung walay manag-iya ug negosyo like bar, club, sugalan?

Classic gihapon nga tubag bossing.