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  1. #281

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    @break, Constantine merged paganism with Chrsitianity? pag sure diha oi..
    constantine founded the RCC?
    RCC is paganism and Christianity?

    kinsay nag ingun nimu ana break? si Jesus?

    huge claims break, huge judgement.

    you left Catholicism without even reading the catechism,without even digging deeper..
    your knowledge about Catholicism when you left CAtholicism was not even close to understanding it
    it shows how you see RCC today now that you're with another denomination,
    and now you try to disprove RCC? Lol

    your like a kid in the Science lab trying to disprove scientific theories.

    @noy, hope dili ta ma offend whatever our discussions may lead if we are for the truth. Try to reflect these verses and see the difference between living by the word of God and living under the manipulation of the papacy. Ang dunay knowledge about the catechism bro maybe only 5% sa members lang tingali.

    Is Roman Catholicism Christian? | Are Catholics Christians? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
    Does the Roman Catholic Church represent the true Christian faith? | Christian Faith Site
    Roman Catholicism -Christian or Pagan?
    http://www.letgodbetrue.com/pdf/is-c...-christian.pdf

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    When I saw someone nga mupahid ug panyo sa rebulto para mamaayu daw ang sakit, unsa say classification nimu ana?
    idol worship. ehehhe/

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    1) Where in the bible nagsugo ang Ginoo pagpabuhat ug abstract or distorted image?
    2) Where in the bible God approves to make IMAGES OF MEN?
    Kinsa'y naghimo sa Bible?
    nganong kada relihiyon/pagtoo/relasyon nga maumol naa man gyuy ilahang interpretasyon sa Bible nga dili ilaha?
    Nganong dili ilaha?...subaya ang origin sa inyong pagtoo/relihiyon/relasyon di ba manghud kaayo sa RCC.

    Unya kamo ra gyud ang natugahan ug lantip nga hunahuna nga wala gyud makuha sa mga karaang tawo sa una?
    Unsa may gibuhat sa Ginoo sa dihang wala pa naumol ang inyong pagtoo? natulog? o wala pa nakahunahuna ninyo?

    Unya Katoliko gyud? how about the Muslims?
    Why not attack the religions that are not following the Bible? Hadlok? if nahadlok, aw dili diay na sa Ginoo ang inyong pagtoo.

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  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    the images somehow channels God's power, just like how someone feels peace after seeing an electric post which resembles the cross of Jesus.
    personally, i do not do that but i don't have problems with it either.depende lang sa conviction, i'm open with it as well
    depende na sa mga tao, it's how their faith goes, we have different ways of venerating Saints and showing how we value God.

    with regard to pahid2x as worship,say pagpahid sa imahe ni Jesus
    it doesnt necessarily mean the devotee worshiped the image it only shows deep reverance of the one who is portrayed in the image..

    same thing happens when we miss a loved one so much to the point we kiss thier photographs.
    Ang problema kung ang rebulto ni Hudas maoy pahiran kay wala kaila ang member nga kang hudas diay to.... sorry for my lack of knowledge ha, duna bay image si Judas sa RCC?

  5. #285
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Pero if ipahid ang panyo kay makaayu sa sakit bro? ok ra ghapon na?
    makacause nuon nag sakit bro kung ang laki naay ubo, etc. nya mo offer sa iyang panyo nga gipahid ngadto sa iyang uyab....

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    When I saw someone nga mupahid ug panyo sa rebulto para mamaayu daw ang sakit, unsa say classification nimu ana?
    Faith and Human nature.
    Wala man tingali sila tudloi tingali sa ilang pari nga ipahid ang panyo para maayo.

    Parehas ra ni sa makadawat ug text message nga nakadaug kuno sa raffle unya patawagon sa number ni Atty....
    bisan unsa-on ug sulti nga dili tinuod, binuang na ang text, ilad na....moingon pa gyud, tawagon lang nako oi kay basin tinuod diay. hehehe.


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  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @noy, hope dili ta ma offend whatever our discussions may lead if we are for the truth. Try to reflect these verses and see the difference between living by the word of God and living under the manipulation of the papacy. Ang dunay knowledge about the catechism bro maybe only 5% sa members lang tingali.

    Is Roman Catholicism Christian? | Are Catholics Christians? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
    Does the Roman Catholic Church represent the true Christian faith? | Christian Faith Site
    Roman Catholicism -Christian or Pagan?
    http://www.letgodbetrue.com/pdf/is-c...-christian.pdf
    so what your anticatholic sources/links say is the truth? sakto ko break?
    again, kinsay nag ingun nimu ana break? si Jesus?

    if your statistics is right, nga 5% ra sa mga catholics ang naka hibaw sa catechism
    then that means many left catholicism without a fair fight. prehas nimu
    karun you're trying to disprove what you don't understand? is that even possible?

  8. #288
    [QUOTE=Breakeven;14723170]

    out of context manka bro. We cannot justify idolatry with those verses. I compare pag-ayo imong verses bro with these verses and think about it many times kung asay insakto.

    What Does the Bible Say About Idols?



    1) Where in the bible nagsugo ang Ginoo pagpabuhat ug abstract or distorted image?
    2) Where in the bible God approves to make IMAGES OF MEN?
    Backread lang Bro,
    Love kaayo namo si Lord Jesus Christ,
    mao nga amo siyang handomon pinaagi sa iyang imahe,
    wala man mi nagbuhat ug laing Ginoo Bro.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Sorry to butt in,
    mangutana ko nimo Bro,
    kung malayo ka sa imong uyab o asawa ba ron,
    dili ba diay ka magdala ug iyang picture para imong
    tan-aw, tan-awon kung mingawon ka niya.
    Unya in doing that nakasala na diay ka niya.
    Balik naman ni bro wala jud nay problema imong example.
    Ang sala diha kung duha ang imong picture nga gisigeg tan-aw2...hehhheeh.

    Jesus is the image of the invisible God. We can only know him through his word.

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    ....aw ganiha ra, kahuman nakos tanang misteryo sa rosaryo...Lol
    ka memorize pud ka anang prayer for the dead @noy? kanang tore ni david, balay nga bulawan (ig ampo mo kami)....unsa pa na....

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