Mga Pari paminyoon na

[TheSunKing]

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Dili ta kaboot sa Vatican ug unsa ilaha gusto ... pero dili obliged ang pari nga mag celibate ... para sa akoa its an abuse sa vatican ... maau pang orthodox mag minyo pa ilaha pari .... kay ang gi ingon mas maau dili mag minyo pero ug dili kaya pagminyo ... so therefore dili obliged ang tawo nga celibate ug mo serbisyo sa Ginoo.

Klaruhon nato gamay brad.

Is it considered abuse to consent with your full knowledge and understanding that you will give up earthly things to serve the Lord?

The Catholic Church has considered each and every station in life as a calling. Married life, religious life, single blessedness, and priesthood are our vocations.

If dili mo-fit sa imoha, you always have the freedom to move on. Even ordained priests sometimes has to ask permission from the bishop in order to marry, because they just found out that they can serve the Lord better as married persons.

The vows that priests and religious take are similar to what married couples promise, which is FIDELITY to the faith and to your calling as a priest or as a married person.

Take note, whatever your vocation is, whether you are married , religious, single, and priest you have a duty to serve the Lord in the best way that you can. In this case, mas bug at ang responsibility sa priests to God kay wala man sila lahing atimanon, but the things that pertain only to Him.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Ug nganu magbuot man ka unsay akong rason? if i said i gather i will gather and i dont think i have to justify to you or other what i want or what is my purpose. If thats what you think imu sad ayaw pamugos. I already cleared To you from my last post that before i question RC doctrines but now i only want to hear RC members sa ilang Opinions and discuss on their personal Level or understanding. Nya imu jud ipamugos unless mag post karun taud taud about my conclussion condemning your religion or your doctrines ayaw sa ug Judge kay wa man taka i judge.

You are not getting the point here SIO .

First , wala ko nag buot , I am merely clarifying , heck I am even helping you . You just find it lang siguro na na corner ka and you are looking for that small hole of exit . PALUSOT in short ba . Take note on this ok , ikaw ra mismo ang nag sulti na you want to gather RC members opinions , have you identified them already ? Obvious na lage kaayo ka , naa sa akong pahak ba kay nag tuo siguro ka gibuguan na lang pod ka nako . Your issuance of statements and design of argument is actually weak and created with unfounded reality .

Wala pa man gani nimo gi tubag pangutana nako unsay OBJECTIVES nimo unless lingaw lingaw lang ni imoha .

And Why should I select your so called CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMER if i ask something about their belief? or their understanding of their belief? Nga i will ask them on their personal undestanding man. DID I Argue about the LAw of the church about Priest Getting Married? I just Ask their own opinion IF pananglitan mausab then discuss the answer. I dont care about that Obrien because thats Not what i want to know.

Alangan man ug ang pangutan-on nimo mga PROTESTANT ISTORYANS . Makes sense now ? Natural mga RC istoryans imohang subjects and they are beneficiaries of your questions mao I asked you , have you identified them already ? So far , murag 3 ra man kabuok ang ni tubay niom , si APOLLO , GJHONE and REMBRANDT and I am not even sure or you not even assured of their membership of the RCC , wala man gani ka mangutana nila kung Katoliko sila , igo lang sila ni tubay nimo unya nipadayon lang ka sa gibati nimo . Lets all be real here SIO . Ikaw ang ni assume , dili ako .

Kinsa man kunu nang CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMER, ikaw? so naa diay certified catholics naa sad wala? di pwedi musabat ang di identifed as RC?

Dont play with words , I highlighted and made it bold to make it easier for you to grasp the idea that what I said was CATHOLIC ISTORYAN FORUMERS , meaning , mga katoliko diri sa forums . Have you identified them yet ? Kay kung wala , and say for example , si XIAN120 ang ni tubay nimo , by missing the point of identifying him as a RC member makes you an idiot and ignorant because you directed questions and expected an answer from an RC member , guess what ? Atheist baya siya . Get the point now ? Actually aron mas sayon pa jud sabton , you might end up in barking the wrong tree and to avoid that , you should Identify them and project your objectives otherwise mag cge na ta u tuyok tuyok ani , LINGAW LINGAWra diay ni imoha , that says something about your PERSONALITY as a PROTESTANT and I am sure you dont want that .

if it does not bother you then why you answered?, why speculate? why Judge?
ug nganu ang certified catholic members raman dapat mutubag if di pa bothered?
if di pa bothered di unta mangutana if unsay conclusion

Wrong analogy . I answered so you can realize your errors . Sa binisaya pa , ayaw na pag GORYO GORYO .

Alangan man ug dili katoliko ang m tubag sa pangutana nimo ? Pag tsur oi .... ikaw ra nag sulti ngita ka ug katoliko kay gusto ka makabalo sa opinion nila lols .

@AMINGB ...

Ask lang ko brad unsa mani sila klasi nga Priest ? palihug lang daw ug describe ani nila ug unsa ang Function aning Priest .....

Are we on the same page here AMING ? Before I answer you , did you read the PAROCHIAL LETTERS ? Storya ta ug tinuod diri .

Well accordingly kanang Ministerial Office as a Priest is not Existince in the Bible ....

You mentioned New Testament (Greek, “presbuteros”) as though they were equivalent to modern-day priests, but the New Testament ALREADY has a word for priest, (Greek, “hiereus”), and the two words are never used interchangeably. While it is true that our modern word “priest” is a DERIVATIVE of the word “presbuteros”, it does not mean that they are the same. The modern word “Presbyterian” is ALSO a derivative of “presbuteros”, but I don’t think you would try to say that the New Testament “elders” were Presbyterians. So, this in no way proves that elders were priests.

Read the letters of St. Paul lage . That is in the NT .

Over time , as far as before Christ , the basis of the existence of PRIEST provides the idea/defintiion /understanding/reference of someone who can perform RITUALS . That was your question na dili makita sa BIBLIYA . You are rooting for the exact word na PRIEST , true you wont find that but one thing is certain , it is BIBLICALLY BASED because the word was a derivative.

Nakuha na nimo ?

[amingb]

@AMINGB ...


Are we on the same page here AMING ? Before I answer you , did you read the PAROCHIAL LETTERS ? Storya ta ug tinuod diri .



Read the letters of St. Paul lage . That is in the NT .

Over time , as far as before Christ , the basis of the existence of PRIEST provides the idea/defintiion /understanding/reference of someone who can perform RITUALS . That was your question na dili makita sa BIBLIYA . You are rooting for the exact word na PRIEST , true you wont find that but one thing is certain , it is BIBLICALLY BASED because the word was a derivative.

Nakuha na nimo ?

Wala naku nakuha .... kay sa akong sabot kanang mga overseer as mentioned in the Bible has its Ministerial Office ... ug mo mention ug Priest unsa mana sila klasi nga Priest .. kay 3 mana ka priest accordingly .... High Priest, Ministerial Priest, Universal Priest

[amingb]

Klaruhon nato gamay brad.

Is it considered abuse to consent with your full knowledge and understanding that you will give up earthly things to serve the Lord?

The Catholic Church has considered each and every station in life as a calling. Married life, religious life, single blessedness, and priesthood are our vocations.

If dili mo-fit sa imoha, you always have the freedom to move on. Even ordained priests sometimes has to ask permission from the bishop in order to marry, because they just found out that they can serve the Lord better as married persons.

The vows that priests and religious take are similar to what married couples promise, which is FIDELITY to the faith and to your calling as a priest or as a married person.

Take note, whatever your vocation is, whether you are married , religious, single, and priest you have a duty to serve the Lord in the best way that you can. In this case, mas bug at ang responsibility sa priests to God kay wala man sila lahing atimanon, but the things that pertain only to Him.

Wa koy blema anang inyong pari dili mag minyo kay magpalaban raman na ug lima ... comment lang ko .... human rights violation akong sabot anang pagbut-an tas atoang gusto .... mo ingon mo ug pahawa .... unya gusto man mag pari unya mag minyo pajud ... mao man jud na clamor sa mga kaparian mao na mga pari karon mga Immoral kasagaran ....

[amingb]

Same pud na bro na wala SOLA SCRIPTURA gi-mention sa Bible, imbento lang gihapon sa tawo.

O.T.

Sola Scriptura is not a Doctrine like other religion mag himo ug mga Dogma nga outside the teaching of the Bible .... ang pasabot lang ana nga ang authority about sa teaching the word of God is naa rajud sa Bibliya dli sa baba sa mga Pari sa Vatican ....

Sola Scriptura means that you use the Bible alone for doctrine.

[necrotic freak]

^^what if wala nacompile ang christian bible bro?

[amingb]

^^what if wala nacompile ang christian bible bro?

O.T.

Islam ta tanan siguro .. thanks ni Constantine .... ning follow lang man ang mga protestant sa Bible nga gi compile sa RC kuno ... unya ang RC daghan man kaaung contradicts sa Bible ilaha gi compile .... unya kanang Tradition ( outside sa Bible ) nga gi ingon nga apil sa Doctrine mangutana ta ug asa na karon nakabalo ba ang mga Catholic members ana ? Mao jud na akong gi Question during sa Seminar atong nag pa Convert ko sa Catholic ... ang tubag sa Pari sila ray nakabalo ana ... faeta ... ako gi ingnan ang Pari .. kamo ra diay maluwas ....

[cobraKing]

^^paet sad ani oi..wala sila kahibalo unya sila ra ang maluwas..na unsa na gud ni..

[Apollo24]

O.T.

Islam ta tanan siguro .. thanks ni Constantine .... ning follow lang man ang mga protestant sa Bible nga gi compile sa RC kuno ... unya ang RC daghan man kaaung contradicts sa Bible ilaha gi compile .... unya kanang Tradition ( outside sa Bible ) nga gi ingon nga apil sa Doctrine mangutana ta ug asa na karon nakabalo ba ang mga Catholic members ana ? Mao jud na akong gi Question during sa Seminar atong nag pa Convert ko sa Catholic ... ang tubag sa Pari sila ray nakabalo ana ... faeta ... ako gi ingnan ang Pari .. kamo ra diay maluwas ....

Wala nay contradiction ang Bible bro ! Ang imo lang pagsabot maoy contradicting... Daghan kag e consider sa pagsabot sa Bible mao bitaw dapat kung maglibog ka, consult to the expert... Naay mga pari.. Kung dli katubag ang usa then ask from other Priest kay nagtuon man gyud sila ana... Ang original language gyud sa Bible kay dli English... Due to several translations, naay word na laen pagsabot nato sa meaning....
................Basaha gud unsa ingon ni Gishi_Chalil28..... Dapat naa kay knowledge about anthro, socio, theology, and ARAMAIC (language of Jesus), latin, greek ug uban pa mao bitaw muabot ug 10-13years bago ma.pari.

[amingb]

Wala nay contradiction ang Bible bro ! Ang imo lang pagsabot maoy contradicting... Daghan kag e consider sa pagsabot sa Bible mao bitaw dapat kung maglibog ka, consult to the expert... Naay mga pari.. Kung dli katubag ang usa then ask from other Priest kay nagtuon man gyud sila ana... Ang original language gyud sa Bible kay dli English... Due to several translations, naay word na laen pagsabot nato sa meaning....
................Basaha gud unsa ingon ni Gishi_Chalil28..... Dapat naa kay knowledge about anthro, socio, theology, and ARAMAIC (language of Jesus), latin, greek ug uban pa mao bitaw muabot ug 10-13years bago ma.pari.

O.T. lang gihapon ... pasensiya lang mod ha ...

Bitaw bri ug kanang 13 yers puros lang Bible mo tuo ko ug na master na nila .. kay ang mga Pari sa karon kulang jud ug knowledge sa Bible ... maka attest jud ko ana kay daghan ko kila pariaon, bisan kamo pa mo ingon ana nila mo ingon na sila nga wala na nila mastera ang Bible ... dili naman kinahanglan kanang uban nga language kay sa English gi klaro nana nila ug interpret.

Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!!!
naa diri mabasa nga ang mag alagad sa Ginoo puede minyo ug naay mga anak ... dili bawal mag minyo ug mo serbisyo sa Ginoo .. pero naay qualification dili kanang palahubog, palaway, babaero ug daghan pa .....