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[TheSunKing]

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wala diay priest gi mention sa Bible ... imbento lang gihapon na sa Vatican ...

Same pud na bro na wala SOLA SCRIPTURA gi-mention sa Bible, imbento lang gihapon sa tawo.

[dustin]

I see it as discredit because you already knew about it . Second , I dont know about you but daghan RC lain lain pag sabot sa doktrina ? Do enlighten me more please . Remember , there is only 1 RCC and like 35K plus other CHRISTIAN denominations who cant agree with each other kay kamo ang naay lain laing pag sabot sa bibliya . Lets all get real here.

tinoud bitaw bro, daghan bitaw mga roman catholic nga wala gyud kasabot sa doktrina, i guess tungod rasad nga wala ma doktrina gyud!! sa pag worship lang daan bro sa mga images kana lang daghan gyud ug lain lain ug pagtou mga catholic ana...

[REMBRANDT]

As long as celibacy brings forth effective
function for the priest and they are as well
willing to commit, then what should be the question
with that?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Did I argue about the church law? I am arguing the personal opinions of forumers, if ilang basis is Church Doctrines ila sad na but I am not questioning the RC doctrines, i am questioning their opinion on some issues. Muabot man jud na sa lalis madugay ug pangutana usahay ma OT but its more on personal level/opinion rather that RC doctrines in particular. As i said I am now more on discussing personal opinions rather than questioning church doctrines kay inyu sad na. Ayaw palabi ug assume.

Naa na lage pattern kay kaila ko sa nimo which reflects your objectives when it comes to RCC .

After you collect datas from opinions , imoha ni siyang itandi sa doktrina which makes it so absrud because to start , wala man ka idea unsay doktrina , what you have are either opinions or hearsay . If you follow closely how you started your interactions here , you are already somewhat into the idea of CARDINAL O'BREIN or whoever is saying na RCC that PRIEST should marry . These are collective statements on your part against teachings maski unsaon niom ug bali bali .

Unless wala lang ka lingaw that you are trying to gather datas of forumers here kung unsay maikasulti nila sa issue na gi state ni O'brein . Other than that , I dont believe na you are only after the personal opinions of forumers because to start , sayop ka . You should gather datas from CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMERS , have you identified them already ?

Assume is an abused word unless there are no probable cause. Dont display the obvious if you dont want to be talked about , bati man kung ikaw ra pirme mo question sa RCC . But the sad reality , it is not the nature of RCC to question the PROTESTANTS mao bitaw you rarely see questions , websites , articles , etc that portrays anything under the sun AGAINST you guys . Instead , kamo tanan na gikan sa KATOLIKO and the rest of the 35K plus fellowships , bible groups , denominations and etc ang cge ug storya about RCC . Not that it scares me , it just makes you guys CHISMOSO and that is a fact.

So if I turn the tides , naa nakay na gather na datas of OPINIONS from forumers ? Unsay conclusion nimo ? Hehehehehe .

@DUSTIN ....

tinoud bitaw bro, daghan bitaw mga roman catholic nga wala gyud kasabot sa doktrina, i guess tungod rasad nga wala ma doktrina gyud!! sa pag worship lang daan bro sa mga images kana lang daghan gyud ug lain lain ug pagtou mga catholic ana...

Can you enumerate the different beliefs you are describing about regarding images and the doctrines behind it ?

@AMINGB ....

Dili ta kaboot sa Vatican ug unsa ilaha gusto ... pero dili obliged ang pari nga mag celibate ... para sa akoa its an abuse sa vatican ... maau pang orthodox mag minyo pa ilaha pari .... kay ang gi ingon mas maau dili mag minyo pero ug dili kaya pagminyo ... so therefore dili obliged ang tawo nga celibate ug mo serbisyo sa Ginoo.

When you say dili ta makabuot sa Vatican is a wrong notion and understanding of the position of the Holy See towards its members all over the globe. This is because they just dont say or get what they want . It will be a long process and the ecumenical councils are the examples of these which is Vatican II would be the recent / latest one .

Obligation is a wrong term also , you are maybe referring to VOWS .

Kung para nimo abuse then you are basically labeling Jesus Christ as ABUSIVE the moment He selected the first BISHOPS of the CHURCH .

Kini pud dako ni lalisonon ...

note that scripture does not use the word priest (Greek hiereus, hebrew cohen) for them but over seer (Greek episcopus= bishop) and deacon(diakonos= servant)

wala diay priest gi mention sa Bible ... imbento lang gihapon na sa Vatican ...

Huh ? You wont see the word BIBLE , AMINGB , iSTORYA , CEBU CITY in the scriptures of bible either . What does that constitute if we follow your logic ? That the 5 words I gave are a just a JOKE ?

Seriously .... the word PRIEST was derived from the LATIN " PRESBYTER " of ancient Greek . The HOLY BIBLE was translated to LATIN by St. Jerome and compiled by St. Athanasius of Alexandria . I dont see the word VATICAN in here at all .

Now if you want to find the word PRESBYTER , read the PAROCHIAL LETTERS of St. Paul ( 1st and 2nd TIMOTHY and TITUS ) aron ka makabalo unsay requirements sa unang panahon aron mahimo ka BISHOP , DEACON , PRESBYTER and so that you also know the ancient definitition of " WIDOW " . I am doing this is a favor to you maski OT , you wont really see these kind of bible sharing in a typical bible group discussions. Lol .

[amingb]

@AMINGB ....



When you say dili ta makabuot sa Vatican is a wrong notion and understanding of the position of the Holy See towards its members all over the globe. This is because they just dont say or get what they want . It will be a long process and the ecumenical councils are the examples of these which is Vatican II would be the recent / latest one .

Obligation is a wrong term also , you are maybe referring to VOWS .

Kung para nimo abuse then you are basically labeling Jesus Christ as ABUSIVE the moment He selected the first BISHOPS of the CHURCH .



Huh ? You wont see the word BIBLE , AMINGB , iSTORYA , CEBU CITY in the scriptures of bible either . What does that constitute if we follow your logic ? That the 5 words I gave are a just a JOKE ?

Seriously .... the word PRIEST was derived from the LATIN " PRESBYTER " of ancient Greek . The HOLY BIBLE was translated to LATIN by St. Jerome and compiled by St. Athanasius of Alexandria . I dont see the word VATICAN in here at all .

Now if you want to find the word PRESBYTER , read the PAROCHIAL LETTERS of St. Paul ( 1st and 2nd TIMOTHY and TITUS ) aron ka makabalo unsay requirements sa unang panahon aron mahimo ka BISHOP , DEACON , PRESBYTER and so that you also know the ancient definitition of " WIDOW " . I am doing this is a favor to you maski OT , you wont really see these kind of bible sharing in a typical bible group discussions. Lol .[/QUOTE]

Ask lang ko brad unsa mani sila klasi nga Priest ? palihug lang daw ug describe ani nila ug unsa ang Function aning Priest .....

[lordjtj]

mawala diay ang gamit sa 3 ka vows sa pari kung mag minyo cla

[alfalfa]

ang mga madre diay? hehehe...

[amingb]

Well accordingly kanang Ministerial Office as a Priest is not Existince in the Bible ....

You mentioned New Testament (Greek, “presbuteros”) as though they were equivalent to modern-day priests, but the New Testament ALREADY has a word for priest, (Greek, “hiereus”), and the two words are never used interchangeably. While it is true that our modern word “priest” is a DERIVATIVE of the word “presbuteros”, it does not mean that they are the same. The modern word “Presbyterian” is ALSO a derivative of “presbuteros”, but I don’t think you would try to say that the New Testament “elders” were Presbyterians. So, this in no way proves that elders were priests.

[SioDenz]

Naa na lage pattern kay kaila ko sa nimo which reflects your objectives when it comes to RCC .

After you collect datas from opinions , imoha ni siyang itandi sa doktrina which makes it so absrud because to start , wala man ka idea unsay doktrina , what you have are either opinions or hearsay . If you follow closely how you started your interactions here , you are already somewhat into the idea of CARDINAL O'BREIN or whoever is saying na RCC that PRIEST should marry . These are collective statements on your part against teachings maski unsaon niom ug bali bali .

Unless wala lang ka lingaw that you are trying to gather datas of forumers here kung unsay maikasulti nila sa issue na gi state ni O'brein . Other than that , I dont believe na you are only after the personal opinions of forumers because to start , sayop ka . You should gather datas from CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMERS , have you identified them already ?

Assume is an abused word unless there are no probable cause. Dont display the obvious if you dont want to be talked about , bati man kung ikaw ra pirme mo question sa RCC . But the sad reality , it is not the nature of RCC to question the PROTESTANTS mao bitaw you rarely see questions , websites , articles , etc that portrays anything under the sun AGAINST you guys . Instead , kamo tanan na gikan sa KATOLIKO and the rest of the 35K plus fellowships , bible groups , denominations and etc ang cge ug storya about RCC . Not that it scares me , it just makes you guys CHISMOSO and that is a fact.

So if I turn the tides , naa nakay na gather na datas of OPINIONS from forumers ? Unsay conclusion nimo ? Hehehehehe .

Ug nganu magbuot man ka unsay akong rason? if i said i gather i will gather and i dont think i have to justify to you or other what i want or what is my purpose. If thats what you think imu sad ayaw pamugos. I already cleared To you from my last post that before i question RC doctrines but now i only want to hear RC members sa ilang Opinions and discuss on their personal Level or understanding. Nya imu jud ipamugos unless mag post karun taud taud about my conclussion condemning your religion or your doctrines ayaw sa ug Judge kay wa man taka i judge.

And Why should I select your so called CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMER if i ask something about their belief? or their understanding of their belief? Nga i will ask them on their personal undestanding man. DID I Argue about the LAw of the church about Priest Getting Married? I just Ask their own opinion IF pananglitan mausab then discuss the answer. I dont care about that Obrien because thats Not what i want to know.

Kinsa man kunu nang CATHOLIC iSTORYAN FORUMER, ikaw? so naa diay certified catholics naa sad wala? di pwedi musabat ang di identifed as RC?

if it does not bother you then why you answered?, why speculate? why Judge?
ug nganu ang certified catholic members raman dapat mutubag if di pa bothered?
if di pa bothered di unta mangutana if unsay conclusion

[necrotic freak]

ako dili jud ko uyon nga magminyo ang pari.. mao ni nakalahi sa RC sa uban religion.,

pero nganong naa man jud mga pari ng mag una2x?

simple kaayo, kung gusto najud sila mo rej2x ug magka anak, mo undang nalang sila pagkapari. dayon maghimo ug team tatay.