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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by REMBRANDT View Post
    The Pope is our shepherd,
    as the sole authority of Jesus Christ,
    we would follow him all the time.

    Matthew 16:18
    And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
    and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


    Ephesians 2:20-22
    built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
    Some say they will Question the Church/Pope

    So is it OKAY for a Shepperd to say I can no longer serve the Shep?
    Last edited by SioDenz; 03-11-2013 at 11:46 AM.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    I am not concern about anang Pari mag minyo kay inyu man sad na. Di sad ko RC, akong pangutana is to know asa taman ilang loyalty sa simbahan, or sa Pope.
    If it is not your concern then why bother be curious about it or simply ask ? The loyalty of a faithful depends on his or her faith .

    One thing is certain , the magisterium of the church does not at all change just because a priest decides to.

    What you quoted was already the answer to your question if you only read it. IN THE REAL WORLD , THAT WONT HAPPEN .

    Now its mu turn to ask , in your fellowship , how LOYAL are you to the SCRIPTURES or to JESUS CHRIST ?
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Some say they will Question the Church/Pope

    So is it OKAY for a Shepperd to say I can no longer serve the Shep?
    This is way too OT,
    but okay, to satisfy your question,
    IMHO, No shepherd could serve forever
    that is why there is a succession.

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    If it is not your concern then why bother be curious about it or simply ask ? The loyalty of a faithful depends on his or her faith .

    One thing is certain , the magisterium of the church does not at all change just because a priest decides to.

    What you quoted was already the answer to your question if you only read it. IN THE REAL WORLD , THAT WONT HAPPEN .

    Now its mu turn to ask , in your fellowship , how LOYAL are you to the SCRIPTURES or to JESUS CHRIST ?
    Mao bitaw nay Point, just want to know the loyalty or unsa ilang pagsabot sa ilang Belief. Its just happen nga ang issue is about the Church Law. Just to clarify, Im questioning About Church Law or Pope.

    I am Loyal to Jesus and what the bible say.

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by REMBRANDT View Post
    This is way too OT,
    but okay, to satisfy your question,
    IMHO, No shepherd could serve forever
    that is why there is a succession.
    Jesus Can

    John 10: 11-14

    11“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

    14“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Jesus Can

    John 10: 11-14

    11“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.

    14“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
    Do we need guidance,
    yes or no.

  7. #157
    mao-mao raning mga kultoha...

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by REMBRANDT View Post
    Do we need guidance,
    yes or no.
    Guidance on what?

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Guidance on what?
    In your denomination
    of faith right now.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by REMBRANDT View Post
    In your denomination
    of faith right now.
    I can read and understand the bible based on my own understanding. i try to listen to other peoples interpretation and compare or analyze them. right now, my guidance is my faith in God and my understanding of his word. my belief is influenced by my religion when i grew up, but right now i rather call that based knowledge than guidance. wa nkoy simba simba gud.

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