The concept of "out of context"

[rodsky]

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ENGLISH! if maka sabot og ininglish!

Ok, so you agree nga you will have difficulty in using Cebuano alone to explain to the students or to answer student queries about a solar eclipse, yes?

-RODON

[superkebot]

Ok, so you agree nga you will have difficulty in using Cebuano alone to explain to the students or to answer student queries about a solar eclipse, yes?

-RODON

bro, i told you if you have to speak in mandarin, you have to do it.

You are missing the point.

Yes its hard to explain eclipse in bisaya! AGREE! but you don't have to speak in ENGLISH in a COMMUNITY SCHOOL.

cge rod! i think i made my point same as you gave yours! nobody owns nobody! Just send your message clear then thats it...

I wont argue anymore!

But hey, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF AGAIN? MOST TECHNOLOGICAL ... ARE CHEATS.

[rodsky]

bro, i told you if you have to speak in mandarin, you have to do it.

You are missing the point.

Yes its hard to explain eclipse in bisaya! AGREE! but you don't have to speak in ENGLISH in a COMMUNITY SCHOOL.

Who said anything about SPEAKING in English all the time? I was pertaining to using English in describing scientific processes and procedures.

cge rod! i think i made my point same as you gave yours! nobody owns nobody! Just send your message clear then thats it...

I wont argue anymore!

But hey, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF AGAIN? MOST TECHNOLOGICAL ... ARE CHEATS.

Why do you think that I have to prove something like that to you? It's my opinion--why should I prove my opinion?

"So in a way, humans have to constantly "cheat" nature in order to survive. Most of the technological innovations that have helped humans thrive in this planet are "cheats". Take note I use cheat not in a negative or derogatory sense--I pertain to certain things that humans do/create in order to survive."

Again, cheat is used in these sentences within the context or framework of "cheating death". Analogy: A person rides in an airplane. Now the trouble is, airplanes can crash if it becomes unflyable. So, enter a technlogical device (i.e. created by man) to effectively help "cheat" death in an airplane crash...the parachute. Anyone else can clearly see what I meant by my opinion in that post--ikaw ug si joserizal ra man siguro ang naglisod sa akong buot ipasabot, and again, dili na nako sala nga wala mo kasabot.

-RODION

[grovestreet]

i guess some people come to this subforum just to argue for the sake of arguing...

it's very obvious that our dialect/language is very limited to explain scientific concepts.

unsay bisaya sa "ice"?

also:
why not just say cheat and adapt nature... geez.

[superkebot]

Who said anything about SPEAKING in English all the time? I was pertaining to using English in describing scientific processes and procedures.



Why do you think that I have to prove something like that to you? It's my opinion--why should I prove my opinion?

"So in a way, humans have to constantly "cheat" nature in order to survive. Most of the technological innovations that have helped humans thrive in this planet are "cheats". Take note I use cheat not in a negative or derogatory sense--I pertain to certain things that humans do/create in order to survive."

Again, cheat is used in these sentences within the context or framework of "cheating death". Analogy: A person rides in an airplane. Now the trouble is, airplanes can crash if it becomes unflyable. So, enter a technlogical device (i.e. created by man) to effectively help "cheat" death in an airplane crash...the parachute. Anyone else can clearly see what I meant by my opinion in that post--ikaw ug si joserizal ra man siguro ang naglisod sa akong buot ipasabot, and again, dili na nako sala nga wala mo kasabot.

-RODION

Who said anything about SPEAKING in English all the time? I was pertaining to using English in describing scientific processes and procedures
--- We use the English when discussing science because it is a universally accepted language of discourse
--- YOU DID!

Why do you think that I have to prove something like that to you? It's my opinion--why should I prove my opinion?
--- because you know and we dont? hmmm. how convinient... it doesn't matter.

Analogy: A person rides in an airplane. Now the trouble is, airplanes can crash if it becomes unflyable. So, enter a technlogical device (i.e. created by man) to effectively help "cheat" death in an airplane crash...the parachute
--- hehehe, how can you say MOST. Your base answer are cheat death. Parchute doesn't matter when your typing in ISTORYA. Not unless it did.
--- parachute does not cheat death, it was designed for a reason.

analogy flaw:
#1. If the plane is unflyable, how in the world did you think it will crash and you need a parachute? If it is unflyable it is not FLYING IN THE FIRST PLACE...

#2. Airplane Crash, parachute helps. How many cases it did help? I beg to differ its MOST as you claimed. That is why parachute is designed for a reason not for AIR CRASH! hmmmm

#3. Cheat death doesn't happen most of the time. Cheat death means against the odds or chances of being killed you OUTWIT the situation.

again, dili na nako sala nga wala mo kasabot.
--- hehehe, dili man kami ang wala maka sabot! sa kataas sa atong istorya, mo insist japon ka na dapat english jud ang instruction sa science... unsaon nalang sa dili makasabot og english. hahay!

The analogy doesn't support your CLAIM rod! Try anotherone...

[rodsky]

i guess some people come to this subforum just to argue for the sake of arguing...

it's very obvious that our dialect/language is very limited to explain scientific concepts.

unsay bisaya sa "ice"?

also:
why not just say cheat and adapt nature... geez.

You mean if someone asked you to edit something you posted because "I say this is the correct way and yours is not the correct way" you would actually do it, knowing fully well that you have used the term properly and have not gone against any grammatical or syntactic rule? *shakes head* And to think it was just my opinion pa gani, unya ipa-change pa dyud? How would you feel if you were in my position?

ADDENDUM: If as you said, people "come to this subforum just to argue for the sake of arguing... then I'm going to put an end to that--seriously. There are DOZENS of places in iStorya.net where one can do that, but with the owners' blessings, I will see to it that this is a subforum that doesn't cater to endless chitchat and circular arguments.

-RODION

[grovestreet]

If i were you, i wouldn't make a big deal out of it. Like i said, some people come here to argue just for the sake of arguing.

Why are we arguing over semantics?

Maybe rodsky used the term "cheat" as a poetic statement to prove his point or maybe not. But i surely don't think we have any right to dictate with his choice of words.

[Crimson_Viper]

Fallacy of quoting out of context

"dumut"
seeking logic to humiliate the other side
and by controlling their emotions, outcomes the distraction..

interest + science = politics

lingaw mn d.ay ni dri uy.. hehehe xD

[kano]

"Out of context" has become such a popular rebuttal that I find another thing at work. When I quote something someone doesn't like they will say I'm quoting it out of context as a mere false excuse. It shouldn't be overused as it's getting worn out.

[Xian120]

i get this sort of things a lot, esp when debating about religion and God.. when you talk about some points they tend to twist your words and make it seem that you don't know what your talking about,.

me: indeed something can come from nothing, just like 1+1=0, theoritically there is no zero, it's actually 1 and a -1, both unobservable 'coz they cancel each other out, hence, 0 or nothing..
them: where did 1 and -1 come from?
me: It's still a mystery, humans are still trying to figure it out, but scientists have proven that to be true..
them: No, it's impossible that something can come from nothing, can an apple suddenly appear in front of you? or have anyone really saw something suddenly appearing in front of their eyes? of course not..
me: no it doesnt work that way, you see...
them: no you cant really prove that now can you?.. you dont know how that happened, nobody does, therefore there could only be one ultimate cause, and that is God, therefore God exist.

it's almost laughable to some extent really, but they are the ones who seem to be laughing at your inability to stuff this things in their heads..

"Listen, instead of leaping from one religion to the next, why not start with reason"
-Life of Pi