Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

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so kinahanglan gyud ug buhat para maluwas noh?

aw time sa.. unsa pa man di ie buhaton?

Palihog lang ko ug basa ninyo.

Please dont misinterpret me if you want wisdom from the bible. Wala man ko ga himo himo ug kaugalingun nakong doctrina dire. I am not saying that it is ok to commit sin. As what Apostle Paul said "is then Christ a minister of sin? Absolutely not!". Please understand my point sad, because this discussion must be a intellectual one.

The bible is very clear. "Not out of works in righteousness which we did but according to His mercy He saved us" Titus 3:5. Nganung lisod man alang ninyo ang pagdawat aning bersikuluha?

Kaning verse ni slabs "John 14:12 wala man gahisgut ug salvation mao nang OT siya.

"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
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Why dont we answer what is the way of salvation according to the bible? let focus on that.

Wala pa man ganey maka negate ninyo sa ani nga Syllogism.

Faith alone can save man. (Eph 3:8-9)
Christ alone is the reality of our faith. (Revelation 2:13, John 14:6)
So Christ alone can save man. (Romans 5:10)

[%75life4Him]

diba nangutana man sad ang thread ug need pa ba ug work?
mao man ni ang title " Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?"

Mao lage.....Let go back then to the question...."Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?" Again dont forget the word "saved" again. So the question goes this way "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too to be saved?

So focus lang ta sa question una. When something is stablished then we will proceed.

[slabdans]

Palihog lang ko ug basa ninyo.

Please dont misinterpret me if you want wisdom from the bible. Wala man ko ga himo himo ug kaugalingun nakong doctrina dire. I am not saying that it is ok to commit sin. As what Apostle Paul said "is then Christ a minister of sin? Absolutely not!". Please understand my point sad, because this discussion must be a intellectual one.

The bible is very clear. "Not out of works in righteousness which we did but according to His mercy He saved us" Titus 3:5. Nganung lisod man alang ninyo ang pagdawat aning bersikuluha?

Kaning verse ni slabs "John 14:12 wala man gahisgut ug salvation mao nang OT siya.

"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
"
Why dont we answer what is the way of salvation according to the bible? let focus on that.

Wala pa man ganey maka negate ninyo sa ani nga Syllogism.

Faith alone can save man. (Eph 3:8-9)
Christ alone is the reality of our faith. (Revelation 2:13, John 14:6)
So Christ alone can save man. (Romans 5:10)

unya nganong mohunong man lang ka sa verse 5? kay sayon ra kaayo?

padayon ta sa verse 8

Titus 3:8
The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people.

ang imoha man gud tabla ra na sa usa ka student nga gi engnan sa iyang teacher "pasar na ka basta mo tuo ka nako...basaha ni oh"...problema lang kay wa na ka maminaw sa pag sulti nga bahasa ni

[%75life4Him]

Notice to the public.

I am not contending with someone here. Truth should not be insisted. If you think my point is not helping you then I will politely stop joining with this forum.

[%75life4Him]

unya nganong mohunong man lang ka sa verse 5? kay sayon ra kaayo?

padayon ta sa verse 8

Titus 3:8
The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people.

In verse 8 says "so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works." Nagpasabot ba ni nga sumpaki ni siya sa ""Not out of works in righteousness which we did but according to His mercy He saved us" in verse 5? 2nd, does that verse says you will be saved with works?

need you answer for my 2 questions. Please explain substantiatively your answer.

[slabdans]

Notice to the public.

I am not contending with someone here. Truth should not be insisted. If you think my point is not helping you then I will politely stop joining with this forum.

naunsa ka diha? pahimangno lang na akoa

[slabdans]

Mao lage.....Let go back then to the question...."Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?" Again dont forget the word "saved" again. So the question goes this way "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too to be saved?

So focus lang ta sa question una. When something is stablished then we will proceed.

gi-unsa ma ndi ie nimo na pag sabot ng pangutanaha? diba duna "or" so meaning nangutana sad ang TS kung need ba ug work

[slabdans]

In verse 8 says "so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works." Nagpasabot ba ni nga sumpaki ni siya sa ""Not out of works in righteousness which we did but according to His mercy He saved us" in verse 5? 2nd, does that verse says you will be saved with works?

need you answer for my 2 questions. Please explain substantiatively your answer.

ang pasabot diha dili lang kay faith tapos wala na ang devotion.

unsa may imong questioon number 2? basin nalipat ko.

[%75life4Him]

naunsa ka diha? pahimangno lang na akoa

Naunsa ka? Para na sa tanan. Kay niingun man gud si Noy nga dili malipay ang Ginoo kung magsge tag lalis.

Pagka mean sad nimo oi!

[slabdans]

Naunsa ka? Para na sa tanan. Kay niingun man gud si Noy nga dili malipay ang Ginoo kung magsge tag lalis.

Pagka mean sad nimo oi!

aw ok..maayo noon, para duna nay kalinaw ba hehehe

nisagbat ra baya ko ani kay murag dili na maayo nang cge debati nga parehas Christiano, maayo kay nakasabot na ka nga wala malipay ang Ginoo sa atong gibuhat