Manganak ta ug Daghan --- Archbishop Palma :)

[wenlove24]

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I could throw the question back to you.

Edit: What a typical cult follower. He thinks his belief and worship is better than mine.

Naa na pud ka ngita napud kag bikil. Kabalo ka mismo di na mao akong gipasabot.

[digitalsuperman]

ato daw ning himay himayon..

OT lang:Â
 Almost 16 years of blissful marriage and 1 natural plus 2 C-section births later I can personally say that I still want more kids if only my doctor didn't tell me that my uterus was already too thin.  The natural method works! I can say that we did it without any form of contraception. It's just a matter of self-control as far as my poor human capacity is concerned.

naa koy pangutana nimo. willing ka mu sangyaw anang iimong natural method?
siguro para nimo it works! pero do you speak in behalf sa kadaghanan?
you say "its just a matter of self control", tanan bang tao makabuhat ana?
lets just say nga you practice what you preach and say nga natural method works, what if it doesn't work sa imong gipang-ingnan, willing kang mubuhi sa ilang anak?

My aunt-in-law has fourteen children. 14 less one or two that died young. Â She and her husband were both "carenderia cooks" and yet they managed to have all of their kids finish school. Imagine that! Â
The Church has always proclaimed the use of contraception as a sin bec. it is contrary to conjugal love shared by married couples. Can one spouse say to another that he/ she has TOTALLY given himself/herself to each other if either refuse to have children? Is safe *** really safe? Who are we kidding?Â

what if ang babaye dili ganahan pa magka anak? unsay imong gusto, pugson gyud diay? kay lagi sin daw kay contrary sa conjugal love blah blah blah. what if ang babaye dili pa nahan magka anak kay tan-aw niya iyang partner dili pa emotional ready and dili pa sila financially ready? pugson gyud diay?

 I pray that all of those who are pro-RH will be enlightened that quick solutions are not answers to lifelong problems. I once chanced upon an article about women being relieved by the passing of the law. Then ended with the sentence, "Now they're still trying to think about how to implement it." Toinks! Butangi.
People can be idealistic but not all that's legal is moral. Â Also, this contraception thing means big bucks. Â For whom I leave that to you.

englightened? so feeling nimo ang anti-RH bill are the englightened ones?
pass ko ani kay i have nothing good to say about this.

A good friend of mine has been using IUD for several years bec. she already has 4 kids. Â She's just my age but right now she's skin and bone and struggling from kidney failure. Â I'm not one to judge anybody but people rarely think about the devastating effects of sin. Yes majority of women would feel at ease, relieved about it for days, weeks, months or even years. Â NAY AT FIRST. Â But sin has a very "peculiar"way of getting back at us. Â And only in those moments of denial, of pain and agony that we realize that we were very wrong.

naa kay proof nga ang IUD ang cause sa iyang kidney failure? how did you come up with it then, gikan gyud sa iya doktor?

Gullible? Definitely not. Â Maybe docile and unperturbed.
May God bless all of us.Â

lol..

[Xian120]

Suffering is another thing. We could start a whole new topic with that alone. My opinion stands. Contraception is an abomination.

abortion is abomination, contraception is not..

[wenlove24]

I pray that more people would make decisions not on what has happened to them, their aunt-in-laws and/or their good friends but on what would best benefit the general public.

See? Non catholics can pray too..

The best benefit of the general public who? Those who want to satisfy their lust? Those who want enjoyment without fear of hardship nor obligation? Those who use their bodies for pleasure? Life to the body but death to the soul? What general public are you talking about? The tired pedicab driver who goes home drunk and wants to make it with his wife? Or to the woman who uses her bbody to make money? Or the teenager or unmarried people who want to fornicate with their partners? Which public am I missing here?

[redemption32]

The best benefit of the general public who? Those who want to satisfy their lust? Those who want enjoyment without fear of hardship nor obligation? Those who use their bodies for pleasure? Life to the body but death to the soul? What general public are you talking about? The tired pedicab driver who goes home drunk and wants to make it with his wife? Or to the woman who uses her bbody to make money? Or the teenager or unmarried people who want to fornicate with their partners? Which public am I missing here?

Yes. That same public. Humans who give in to their NATURAL desires. Humans who make mistakes. The same people you are refusing to see.

And since you are preaching about self control, please look to your clergy. How many of them has lost control lately??

[wenlove24]

ato daw ning himay himayon..


naa koy pangutana nimo. willing ka mu sangyaw anang iimong natural method?
siguro para nimo it works! pero do you speak in behalf sa kadaghanan?
you say "its just a matter of self control", tanan bang tao makabuhat ana?
lets just say nga you practice what you preach and say nga natural method works, what if it doesn't work sa imong gipang-ingnan, willing kang mubuhi sa ilang anak?



what if ang babaye dili ganahan pa magka anak? unsay imong gusto, pugson gyud diay? kay lagi sin daw kay contrary sa conjugal love blah blah blah. what if ang babaye dili pa nahan magka anak kay tan-aw niya iyang partner dili pa emotional ready and dili pa sila financially ready? pugson gyud diay?


englightened? so feeling nimo ang anti-RH bill are the englightened ones?
pass ko ani kay i have nothing good to say about this.


naa kay proof nga ang IUD ang cause sa iyang kidney failure? how did you come up with it then, gikan gyud sa iya doktor?


lol..

I'm already "sangyawing" it aren't I? I'm not the only one practicing the natural method. Several couples are. Honestly, I never thought it was possible until me and my husband prayed for it. If you ask if everyone can do it, then I say they can if they seek help. No one is forcing those married couples to practice it. The Church never forced anyone's freewill in the most authentic sense of teaching. Emotional, financial readiness or what not can be simply answered by their marital vows. If you're familiar with these vows, then you'll realize those aren't mere words or empty promises. Enlightened simply means they who faithfully practice genuine freedom which isn't contrary to the natural law.
I don't need proof to make you believe how tragic the effects of SIN are. Â*Fact one: Not all diseases have cures. Fact two: Not all human symptoms can be rationally explained by doctors. But it all boils down to man's hardness of heart. We all suffer. We all will suffer. And as I look into my own heart I can honestly say that God has not inflicted on me the just punishment I deserve for all the sins that I have committed. Â*Shouldn't you at least be examining your own too instead of the mere "lol" and "blah" digital superman?Â*

[wenlove24]

Yes. That same public. Humans who give in to their NATURAL desires. Humans who make mistakes. The same people you are refusing to see.

And since you are preaching about self control, please look to your clergy. How many of them has lost control lately??

The anti-cross. That's what you mean. I get your point. You'd rather allow your wife to commit adultery bec. she is no longer Contented with you. Even if the situation doesn't apply to you, this is the same principle, right?

Clergy? Happens even to the best of us. Solution? Pray for them. Or not. Your choice really. But if you want to learn love, then you should cease judging people.

[aguanta]

mas maayo na daghan pobre AND uneducated... heheheheh

sayon ilaron ug magic-magic, they accept whatever somebody better fed or better dressed will tell them without question.

[chrisvil]

ang wa makupti gud ninyo lagi kay ang power aning tawhana of INFLUENCE...

of course, bisan mo-ingon na siya'g "kinsang gustong...", ang pag-dakop ana sa general public (labi pa sa less informed about family planning) kay "hala, pagpaka-daghan mo, kay ma nay gusto sa ginoo"

Diin ka kabalo Kitty na mao nay gusto sa Ginoo?

[redemption32]

The anti-cross. That's what you mean. I get your point. You'd rather allow your wife to commit adultery bec. she is no longer Contented with you. Even if the situation doesn't apply to you, this is the same principle, right?

Clergy? Happens even to the best of us. Solution? Pray for them. Or not. Your choice really. But if you want to learn love, then you should cease judging people.

Haha. Katawaa nako ani nga post oi. Maau jud kaau ka mu twist2x dah! hahahah...

I see you've been very quick to defend clergy and say that it happens to the best of us.

Giving in to natural urges happens to the best of us. It happens to the tired pedicab driver who goes home drunk and wants to make it with his wife.

Sh*t happens to the best of us. It happens to the woman who uses her body to earn money.

Bad decisions happen to the best of us. It happens to the teenager who has *** with his/her partner.

If people want to be wiser and use contraceptives when they give in to their normal urges, you say it's abomination.
But when clergy steps out of line, you say it happens to the best of us.

Wow. No double standards there.