Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[Breakeven]

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di man pud na baligtaron nga i opposite gyud, kung nakabalo ka sa saktong interpretasyon, wala man na problema. Ani man gud na, kita ka anang mga amang, mag sign sign, usahay makaingon ta nga mas saba pa na sila murag nagsyinagitay pero sign language lng. hehehe. Kung dili ka tudlu-an saktong meaning sa mga sign language pataka na lng ka ug sabot. hehehe. So for example kung ang bible is sign language, itudlo ni Jesus ang meaning sa mga signs ngadto sa iyang mga studyante, sunod ang iya na pud mga studyante nga hanas na, mao na pud ang manudlo then so on to today. so wai teacher nga wala niagi pagka studyante sa usa ka teacher nga hanas na pud. Ang nahitabo sa inyoha, ang pinaka una nakakita sa sign language, pataka lng ug sabot while kita ug mga nag sign language. unya ang ilang pagsabot gipasa sa inyoha.

So imong pasabot nga kamong nag practice sa occult which originated from Pagan Babylon nga before pa sa Christianity maoy mas nakasabot sa teachings ni Jesus Christ kaysa mga Apostles nga nagsuwat sa bible? gamitang saktong panghunahuna ana bro.

[Breakeven]

di man pud na baligtaron nga i opposite gyud, kung nakabalo ka sa saktong interpretasyon, wala man na problema. Ani man gud na, kita ka anang mga amang, mag sign sign, usahay makaingon ta nga mas saba pa na sila murag nagsyinagitay pero sign language lng. hehehe. Kung dili ka tudlu-an saktong meaning sa mga sign language pataka na lng ka ug sabot. hehehe. So for example kung ang bible is sign language, itudlo ni Jesus ang meaning sa mga signs ngadto sa iyang mga studyante, sunod ang iya na pud mga studyante nga hanas na, mao na pud ang manudlo then so on to today. so wai teacher nga wala niagi pagka studyante sa usa ka teacher nga hanas na pud. Ang nahitabo sa inyoha, ang pinaka una nakakita sa sign language, pataka lng ug sabot while kita ug mga nag sign language. unya ang ilang pagsabot gipasa sa inyoha.

Sakto jud ka bro kay kung i-opposite jud nimo totally obvious sad kayo nga ilad na! i-twist lang ginagmay bah like sa imong mga ideas/teachings nga wala jud masulat sa bible pero inyong gi-interpret to fit your Occult agenda. Diba subtle tricks na nga style? ang inosente tawn kayo sa bible, mabwasot jud sa sayop nga belief!

[Breakeven]

@kenshiro, newbie

Agree:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mathew 5:17
Most protestant denominations today confuse the idea of destroy and fullfil the law they interchange its meaning but in the verse it’s clearly a contrast.

The completeness of the Gospel of Grace….. This link explains it in detail.
Completeness of Gospel of Grace - Gal. 6:11-18

I’ll again quote in his conclusion...” Properly understood, this epistle (Galatians) will always serve to subvert the inevitable tendency of man to allow the Christian gospel of grace to lapse into legalistic religious performance.

Sa akoa sad bro, dili baya sya confusing if we really understand Paul’s dispensation about the gospel of grace. It doesn’t suggest believers to continue living in sin because of God’s grace. But to live in the newness of life. Mura’g related ni sya sa Faith + works nga thread It’s very clear in the following passage of Paul’s letter in the book of Romans.

Romans 6
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Imagine, there are 615 laws in the bible. 613 laws in the OT to protect the bloodline of Christ and in the NT Christ merged them into 2, these are: Loving God above all and loving others as yourself.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 5:17-20
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

In verse 20, kinsa may nakabuhat ana sa atua diri? If we are obliged to keep these 600+ laws, guess what? Nobody goes to heaven. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law and the prophets and we are totally complete in Him. Therefore, we are called to live a godly life.

God bless bro!

[mhaipush]

Ora et labora

[%75life4Him]

Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo
kamo lng ang adopted bro, ako dili ko sugot ana oi. kung adopted mo bro, kung dili mo tinood anak sa Ginoo, kinsa diay inyong tinood nga amahan, si satanas?

Originally Posted by %75life4Him
Sama nimo, kaniadto anak mi ni satanas. Pero karun, mga anak nami sa Ginoo diha sa kinabuhi.

kamo lng bro, mga anak seguro mo sa yawa, ayaw ko ninyo apila. hehehe. nganong nakaingon man mo? ky makasasala mo? nganong nahimo mong makasasala bro, dili tungod ky anak mo sa yawa, kung dili, nakalimot mo nga anak diay mo sa Ginoo.

Giapil taka sa mga anak sa yawa kay bakak man gud nang imong tinoohan. "You are of your father the devil,...He does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks the lie, dhe speaks it out of his own possessions; for he is a liar and the father of it."John 8:44.

[richardmana22]

faith is just a percentage para naa mo guide nimo and mo tabang but need gihapon nimo mo work kay d man ka mo asinso ug d ka mo work

[Breakeven]

faith is just a percentage para naa mo guide nimo and mo tabang but need gihapon nimo mo work kay d man ka mo asinso ug d ka mo work

Hello bro, tingali na misinterpret nimo ang title... we're talking here about the means of salvation.

....Of course kita tanan mo work jud kung gusto pa ra mabuhi ning kalibutana...hehhee.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

only one bro

[%75life4Him]

Originally Posted by richardmana22
faith is just a percentage para naa mo guide nimo and mo tabang but need gihapon nimo mo work kay d man ka mo asinso ug d ka mo work

Hello bro, tingali na misinterpret nimo ang title... we're talking here about the means of salvation.

....Of course kita tanan mo work jud kung gusto pa ra mabuhi ning kalibutana...hehhee.

Mao jud. Hehehehe

[slabdans]

Originally Posted by richardmana22
faith is just a percentage para naa mo guide nimo and mo tabang but need gihapon nimo mo work kay d man ka mo asinso ug d ka mo work



Mao jud. Hehehehe

motoo lang di ei mog ginoo para mo asenso? pagka looy pud sa inyong ginoo...atheist na sad ko ron hehehe