Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Xian120]

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yes bai, it would disprove Genesis writings if we were to take the Genesis creation literally.
therefore it would just disprove perhaps one of the many interpretations about Genesis creation..
therefore we really cannot rule out the possibility that Genesis accounts might still be accurate.

here's a link that might give further insights..
Human Evolution: science & theology, genetics & Genesis, Adam & Eve

though these are merely thoeries based on science and Logic..
but they are still possible..after all, no matter how sure we are about whatever beliefs we have..
beliefs are still beliefs..therefore, all we can do is speculate...
'cause after all, if God is true and the bible indeed contains His word
then nothing is impossible for God...
perhaps what St. augustine wrote about miracle is true...
that miracles are not contrary to nature, but contrary to what we know about nature...
besides it wouldn't really prove that there is no divine intervention just because we are able to
explain the process. would it?
out of the million sperm cells, one survived and united with 1 egg cell..
then another Life begins....i believe it is already a miracle.

Then what is literal and what is symbolic? When it should be preached i think it is important to take account also the other possibilities.. There is just too many inconsistencies in the book of Genesis, and i think it should not be taken too literally, not all of them at least, i think it is important to take into account scientific discoveries about our history rather than brush them under the carpet just because they dont speak accordingly to our belief.. let's be honest here, would you tell your children that the world was created in 7 days rather than this marvelous long process? or that we all came from adam and eve? would you rather choose for your kids to believe that? what if you are questioned later about dinosaurs and fossils? how would you perhaps answer them?

Ya i heard that story a hundred times already,, somehow a single sperm would always arrive at the egg and bond with it,, it's just like chess, there will always be a grandmaster above everyone else, it had to happen.. it's not miracle, there's no blend of mysticism to it, it is merely just a product of probability...

[slabdans]

So unsa naman na proved naba nimo brother Risklight or wala pa...wala pa gani ka maka answer sa question ni noy..then sa ako-a sad wala pa sad...

meaning, dili gyd ta mag end up ani..puro rata lalis..paste ta ug links..then read,,research..then paste nasad....hehehehehe

nag search pa gani relax lang gud, wala pay nakita nindot link

para nako Belief -pagtu-o or tinuhu-an, pag d na ko moto-o d na na belief

[noy]

kani oh baka wa pa mo nakabasa ani

The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence | danielmiessler.com

this is a blog bai, anybody can counterblog this.might as well get a more reliable source...
nothing more than a POV an opinion..i respect whatever your beliefs are bai.
saying i believe there's no God is no different from saying i believe there is
the key word there is: BELIEVE(both camps may be sure about their beliefs but what is proven that until this very day, no one knows the absolute truth...both have claims, have proofs and defenses...but at the end of the way we are all faithful to whatever we believed in.)

unless what you are saying is you KNOW there is NO God.

[Xian120]

peaceful tungod lng sad gihapon na niya nga nag igon "ang kalinaw ibilin ko kaninyo" kung wa ang iyang guide nato kalibutan pinaagi sa tabang sa mga apostol mo work kaha na? madisobre kaha ang mga nadisobrehan sa tawo?

hahaha, tan-aw nimo bro?..

[risklight]

sus tawn..sa kadaghan nga nagclaim that the bible is a hoax..di nata ma surprize ana...
again, you did not even answer my questions...

the young earth creation interpretation may have been debunked already..
BUT we both know that it is NOT the only interpretation you're up against.
'cause obviously we both know that the universe is approx 13billion years and the earth is approx 4.5 billion years old
and that evidences of evolution are everywhere..
now the question is, does that really disprove the bible?
YES, if we are to take the BIBLE word for word and LITERALLY.
now another question, are we suppose to take the bible literally?

now if you are making an aboslute statement about the bible being hoax
then what can you say about these people?

List of converts to Christianity from atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

aetheist who converted to Christianity(take a close Look what kind of lives they lead, if they are the type of people who would not examine things before they believe)

how about these people

List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is a LIST of all Christian Scientists.(recorded lang ni ha, wa pay labut ang mga WAIL)

so since you are very absolute about your statement that the bible is hoax.
and even calling us people who know-it-all, hypocrites kay mutoo ug science?(nganu anti -christ diay nanag science?Lol)

so mas sweto pa ka anang mga TAO nga nakalista diha? 'cause they seem to believe in a mystical book filled with
magical creatures and bed time stories AKA the Bible.

and for your sake, maypag imu ni icheck ning mga LINK, to widen your horizon about biblical creation and interpretation.
nga unta you would know that apart from young earth creation interpretation...naa pay uban nga angay nimu
idebunk before saying that the BIBLE is a HOAX.

If God is Omnipotent (All Powerful) Why Did He Need to Take Six Days to Create the Universe?

and

Human Evolution: science & theology, genetics & Genesis, Adam & Eve


and also tell these people that they have died in vain.

List of Christian martyrs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

how about list of people who got murdered by Christians or crusade or inquisition

already posted it bro back read nalang

again its all about propaganda

heres a quick explanation ha

born in christian country = christian
born in muslim country = islam
born in hindu country = Hinduism

karun why is the life of Jesus same as some of the earlier myths before the bible was written?

naa ra na sa geological location nimu ang religion

this is a blog bai, anybody can counterblog this.might as well get a more reliable source...
nothing more than a POV an opinion..i respect whatever your beliefs are bai.
saying i believe there's no God is no different from saying i believe there is
the key word there is: BELIEVE(both camps may be sure about their beliefs but what is proven that until this very day, no one knows the absolute truth...both have claims, have proofs and defenses...but at the end of the way we are all faithful to whatever we believed in.)

unless what you are saying is you KNOW there is NO God.

research all those myths the time line and when the bible was written bro tanawun if kinsa ang mas nauna

[libido]

parehas raman ni sa katong, story ni einstine, iyang maestro wala mo tuo ug ginoo...

unya karon ni tuo diay...

hala research sad ko ug ako-a...kay alkansi ko..own beliefs ra akong e post diri...wala koi solid evidence hehehehe

[slabdans]

how about list of people who got murdered by Christians or crusade or inquisition

already posted it bro back read nalang

again its all about propaganda

heres a quick explanation ha

born in christian country = christian
born in muslim country = islam
born in hindu country = Hinduism

karun why is the life of Jesus same as some of the earlier myths before the bible was written?

naa ra na sa geological location nimu ang religion



research all those myths the time line and when the bible was written bro tanawun if kinsa ang mas nauna

wa man ka nitubag namo n libido bro, ngano nahitabo man na nga mas murder bro? sa atong panahon bro daghan na nga krimin nahimo ang taw mao nanawagan na tag ibalik ang death penalty, ato nga time bro ngano nahitabo man to? parehas sa panahon ni noah nag butang syag dakong lunop unsa may rason sa gino-o ato bro? BASA matod pa ni brod eli

[Xian120]

parehas sa panahon ni noah nag butang syag dakong lunop unsa may rason sa gino-o ato bro? BASA matod pa ni brod eli

The simple reason was that man sinned so he killed 'em all, total annihilation to all sinners.. and to put it in another perspective for you, God did not give those people the chance to change..

[noy]

Then what is literal and what is symbolic? When it should be preached i think it is important to take account also the other possibilities.. There is just too many inconsistencies in the book of Genesis, and i think it should not be taken too literally, not all of them at least, i think it is important to take into account scientific discoveries about our history rather than brush them under the carpet just because they dont speak accordingly to our belief.. let's be honest here, would you tell your children that the world was created in 7 days rather than this marvelous long process? or that we all came from adam and eve? would you rather choose for your kids to believe that? what if you are questioned later about dinosaurs and fossils? how would you perhaps answer them?

Ya i heard that story a hundred times already,, somehow a single sperm would always arrive at the egg and bond with it,, it's just like chess, there will always be a grandmaster above everyone else, it had to happen.. it's not miracle, there's no blend of mysticism to it, it is merely just a product of probability...

you have a point jud bai...
to be honest with you, as of the moment i do not have definite answers yet about what to tell my kids about creation...

but i think i would tell them in a way that their age would understand.. and to their level of maturity basing on what kind of questions they ask..
and for sure when the time comes that they would throw questions you're throwing at me now they would have grown in age and in wisdom already...perhaps we can discuss about serious stuff

about what's literal or not, i think it goes with our maturity,backed up with experience and personal research and studies...
before,i too believed that God really did create the universe and everything we see in 6 days literally, now i still do but more on philosophically and logically i'd like to say scientifically but i don't know if i am eligible...hahaha
all because of what science has discovered..about the age of the universe,earth...about evolution...
so i searched for other insights,other interpretations so to speak...
at least the search shed some light on the confusion...but then again, i can only assume and hope that i am right...
'cause after all, i think we can both agree that no one alive today know the absoluteness of the absolute truth...

to say such is a miracle or not is relative...
i'm sure i consider many things to be a miracle that you won't..
in the same way that blessings in disguise are just chances to others
but i think we can both agree that no one really knows how God would reveal himself if he was real...
whether through natural cause/means or through something magical...
probability and chance might even be the work of His hands, who knows?
if out of something random,something specific came forth...well i think that's pretty contradicting in a beautiful way
then again in this part, we are nothing but speculators.

[slabdans]

The simple reason was that man sinned so he killed 'em all, total annihilation to all sinners.. and to put it in another perspective for you, God did not give those people the chance to change..

naghatag na syag chance bro read back sa bible b4 to nahitabo dba gi ayo silag convince ni naoh nga mahitabo na? unsay gibuhat sa taw? karon basulon nimo ang ginoo nga wa mohatag ug change?

@noy bro reminder lng limit sa smiley