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    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert


    Sakto ka @mingb.. If this trend will continue, siguro i may concede to the fact that we the Filipino Race DO NOT HAVE THE GENES to be entrepreneurs or investors. Dawaton na nako nga hangtud ra jud ta sa pagka CONSUMER. Sa una lagi brad, kanang naa pud tay pagka nationalistic ba, nga akong mindset nga dapat unahon kita nga pilipino tagaan chance mu grow ato own industries and technologies. Pero so far halos 100 Million filipinos na, pero hangtud karon wala pa koy nakita nga very serious local filipino entrepreneurs who has the vision to market his own and control the world.. Dili nalang nato e apil kana sila henry sy, Lucio Tan, MVP, Lopez, ug uban pang Top 40 coz they do not represent the average filipino. .I guess we are born to be consumers.

    With that note, and i also learned that many of the original authors of the 1987 Con like Fr Bernas had suggested, it's about time to amend the 60/40 provision if we want RAPID DEVELOPMENT/PROGRESS in our country.. It's not only the Cojuangco's who will be affected by the change, but all of the Top 40 especially Sy, Tan, Gokongwei, and Ayala..

    On the other hand @mingb, there is always a loophole in every provision in our constitution that may suggest dili na necessary tanggalun ang 60/40 provision.. The evidence of that is MVP himself. Do you know that almost all of the companies he know controls and manages in the Philippines is wholly or partly owned by his real boss the Salim Family of Indonesia?

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    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert

    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Sakto ka @mingb.. If this trend will continue, siguro i may concede to the fact that we the Filipino Race DO NOT HAVE THE GENES to be entrepreneurs or investors. Dawaton na nako nga hangtud ra jud ta sa pagka CONSUMER. Sa una lagi brad, kanang naa pud tay pagka nationalistic ba, nga akong mindset nga dapat unahon kita nga pilipino tagaan chance mu grow ato own industries and technologies. Pero so far halos 100 Million filipinos na, pero hangtud karon wala pa koy nakita nga very serious local filipino entrepreneurs who has the vision to market his own and control the world.. Dili nalang nato e apil kana sila henry sy, Lucio Tan, MVP, Lopez, ug uban pang Top 40 coz they do not represent the average filipino. .I guess we are born to be consumers.

    With that note, and i also learned that many of the original authors of the 1987 Con like Fr Bernas had suggested, it's about time to amend the 60/40 provision if we want RAPID DEVELOPMENT/PROGRESS in our country.. It's not only the Cojuangco's who will be affected by the change, but all of the Top 40 especially Sy, Tan, Gokongwei, and Ayala..

    On the other hand @mingb, there is always a loophole in every provision in our constitution that may suggest dili na necessary tanggalun ang 60/40 provision.. The evidence of that is MVP himself. Do you know that almost all of the companies he know controls and manages in the Philippines is wholly or partly owned by his real boss the Salim Family of Indonesia?
    Well naa ta Talent bro to be entrepreneur ang problema lang Capital + Knowledge ... Not all American and other asian countries nationals are entrepreneur but hayahay panginabuhi WHY MAN ? .. law of supply and demand i guess so ... so ang kulang nato sa pinas since we are not inventors as you said sir nga wala sa ato Genes .. ang FDI kay mao na trend sa Global Economy daghan trabaho dagko sueldo ....

    On the other side about protectionism needed gihapon na sa atoa Natural Resources ang uban countries nga gi wala ang restriction sa mga foreign investors but they cannot control the Mining Industry maka lease lang sila of land for 100 Yers or more.

    Kini si MVP sir mura na siya ug si Warren Buffet ... He is a Corporate Genius ...

  3. #433

    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert

    Quote Originally Posted by eezychair View Post
    ^^please read the thread title right above your post. There's no mention of improving or improved or developing or developed. It says: Now Asia's Strongest Performing Economy. So what is it really that you wanted to say?
    It Clearly says NOW Asia's Strongest..- It doesnt says NOW and FOREVER .

    Putting the Word NOW means the economy is Strongest in a CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME NOT ALL THE TIME.

    Its a very simple sentence to understand. Samot nag basahon an content MALAMDAGAN pa jud kag samot nganu na strongest for a certain time.

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    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert

    ^ Hahaha.. but don't you get it damnit? We are not the strongest performing economy in Asia. As the article itself says, China is the strongest economy. And recent news says, Thailand is the second. So we are at best, the third strongest performing economy. L2Read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apathetic child View Post
    haha karon pa jud ko kabalik sa istorya and reviewed my posts and saw this. hehe. mutubag ko ha..

    yes sakto ka mag study jud ta. But my point is, for me, as an ordinary citizen, ang essence sa numbers kay kanang ma translate pud siya into something tangible bah. kanang ma feel pud nato nang ilang giingon nga % growth bah. Kay for me, mag unsa man nang mga numbera kung ang atong lives walay ka improve2x? Mao to i said, wala ko kahibaw unsa ning progress nga ilang gipang sulti kay wa man jud ko ka feel ug improvement sa Pilipinas. Ang pag improve sa kinabuhi raman gud akong basehan sa pagkwenta ug progress kay i think mao ra man gyud siguro ni ang esensya nganu magstudy ta ug economics, globalization og uban pang subject sa eskwelahan. I just think so....
    ikaw ra diay Citizen sa Pinas? so Meaning ikaw maoy himuon basehan sa tanang panghitabo sa pinas para makaingun ta ni improve? i admit di jud na ma feel natung mga kabos tanan kay economy man ang gihisgutan. Pero saying nga wa nimu na Feel murag di mao kay daghan man tah. What if naay tawo nga kabos nga naka feel siya sa Growth, unsa may ikasulti nimu ana? maka present kaha kag imung study diri nga tanan kabos wa jud ka feel sa improvement sa economy?

    Ug usa pa ang topic diri is economy man di man POVERTY. Tinuod ba ni improve atung economy base sa gi ingun sa EXPERT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    ^ Hahaha.. but don't you get it damnit? We are not the strongest performing economy in Asia. As the article itself says, China is the strongest economy. And recent news says, Thailand is the second. So we are at best, the third strongest performing economy. L2Read.
    YUP, it says "This made the Philippines the second fastest-growing Asian economy, topped only by China at 8.1 percent.
    ". So second. But ang discussion akong giapilan diri is some people says its Not true because poor people cant feel it.

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    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    YUP, it says "This made the Philippines the second fastest-growing Asian economy, topped only by China at 8.1 percent.
    ". So second. But ang discussion akong giapilan diri is some people says its Not true because poor people cant feel it.
    Well, maybe you need to open your eyes and see it from their point of view. Because economic growth without tangible improvement in people's lives is pointless. If you have been to China, you will see that their 8-10% growth is REAL growth, that is, the ordinary Chinese citizen is really becoming richer. It is the same in other countries, like Thailand and Indonesia.

    The important question to ask is, why even with such amazing economic growth, is there no improvement in the lives of most people? What makes the Philippines different from other countries? It's our pretentious nationalism and democracy that lacks genuineness. We are a feudal oligarchy of family-based clans that only has a thin veneer of democracy to fool people into thinking we are better off than during Marcos time.
    Last edited by monroy; 10-27-2012 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    Well, maybe you need to open your eyes and see it from their point of view. Because economic growth without tangible improvement in people's lives is pointless. If you have been to China, you will see that their 8-10% growth is REAL growth, that is, the ordinary Chinese citizen is really becoming richer. It is the same in other countries, like Thailand and Indonesia.

    The important question to ask is, why even with such amazing economic growth, is there no improvement in the lives of most people? What makes the Philippines different from other countries? It's our pretentious nationalism and democracy that lacks genuineness. We are a feudal oligarchy of family-based clans that only has a thin veneer of democracy to fool people into thinking we are better off than during Marcos time.
    I know nga daghan pa kabos ug wa ka feel sa improvement sa economy. But does it really mean nga if mu strong ang economy for a ceratin period meaning ma improve an mga kabos dayun?

    another thing is, when you say Chinese poor becomes richer, do you have your own study about it? or basin gikan r sad na nimu kuhaa sa mga articles sa uban Author and experts - Which maoy gipang question ngari?

    Remember nga imung gi question ang experts nga himu or nag report ani na improvement. You mentioned they FAIL. So unsa or dis a gikan imung proof nga sila Fail? imung study or study/report gikan ra sad sa ubang Expert?

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    Default Re: PH is now Asia's strongest-performing economy, says expert

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    I know nga daghan pa kabos ug wa ka feel sa improvement sa economy. But does it really mean nga if mu strong ang economy for a ceratin period meaning ma improve an mga kabos dayun?
    Not always but this is a normal expectation for people. Even in the States when they talk about an improving economy they are looking at lower unemployment, inflation and higher wages. Instead of attacking this point of view realize that it is the way most people think. If the President and his fans think that figures on paper that show no improvement in personal wealth is gonna impress anyone, think again.


    another thing is, when you say Chinese poor becomes richer, do you have your own study about it? or basin gikan r sad na nimu kuhaa sa mga articles sa uban Author and experts - Which maoy gipang question ngari?
    There are so many studies, figures and articles about the vast improvement in personal wealth in China, literally thousands. I have also been to China and have seen this for myself. Since this expert never discussed improving personal wealth I assume he knows for a fact that there has been no such improvement, so wtf are you asking? Nobody is questioning his opinion on income growth because he never discussed it...

    Remember nga imung gi question ang experts nga himu or nag report ani na improvement. You mentioned they FAIL. So unsa or dis a gikan imung proof nga sila Fail? imung study or study/report gikan ra sad sa ubang Expert?
    I didn't question the expert in the thing that you are claiming. But as many have pointed out the expert says we are the best performing economy in the subject title but in the article itself he says we are second only to China. In that way he fails bigtime.
    Last edited by monroy; 10-27-2012 at 12:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monroy View Post
    ^ Hahaha.. but don't you get it damnit? We are not the strongest performing economy in Asia. As the article itself says, China is the strongest economy. And recent news says, Thailand is the second. So we are at best, the third strongest performing economy. L2Read.
    dammit...

    basahag tarong dude..

    di ang CHINA ang strongest oi.. haha

    wa ka kabalo ng decline ilang growth rate?

    ang pinas ng increase atong growth rate..

    mao nay CONTEXTUALIZATION sa 'strongest'.. dammit..

    klarohon usa ni nato beh..

    DILI TANANG NUMBER 1, MAOY STRONGEST....

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