MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[NapoleonBlownapart]

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dili kaayo ko mo tuki ana boss.. kay dili kaayo ko suheto.. pero ila man gd claims nga kaning yutaa ilaha gyud na.. aware man gyud cguro kas philosophy of ancestral domain..

mao na akong pasabot sir, nga kung unsay ilaha sa mata sa balaod, kung kalinaw ang resulta nganong dili man nato ihatag nila.. as long as dili kini supak sa balaod ug dili sd sila mo separate sa Pilipinas..

Mao nay nakalisod jack kun ato na silang patuyangan sa ilahang "claims". How about the Ifugaos? The Aetas? Pwede pud d.i ni silag mo "claim" nya mangayo ug autonomy kung kursonada ni sila?

[jack_bauer]

Mao nay nakalisod jack kun ato na silang patuyangan sa ilahang "claims". How about the Ifugaos? The Aetas? Pwede pud d.i ni silag mo "claim" nya mangayo ug autonomy kung kursonada ni sila?

i can understand from where your coming from boss, but we have to realized also that we need to acknowledge their cultural blah, blah,.. history (for the lack of better alternative for Jurisprudence) would tell us that we have been giving them what they wanted already by creating autonomous regions, such as the CAR for Ifugaos & Aetas, CARAGA for the natives of Agusan, etc..

so for me, there's no need to worry that other minorities will make claims for they have been given already.

[i_the_mighty]

i can understand from where your coming from boss, but we have to realized also that we need to acknowledge their cultural blah, blah,.. history (for the lack of better alternative for Jurisprudence) would tell us that we have been giving them what they wanted already by creating autonomous regions, such as the CAR for Ifugaos & Aetas, CARAGA for the natives of Agusan, etc..

so for me, there's no need to worry that other minorities will make claims for they have been given already.

Singit lang sad ko gamay boss, murag nahatag na man sad sa ila ang ilaha. Ang ARMM, pero wa pa man gihapon sila na-kuntento ana. Ang sa akong pagsabot, ang karong Bangsamoro, murag gadungag na man sad silag teritoryo.

[jack_bauer]

Singit lang sad ko gamay boss, murag nahatag na man sad sa ila ang ilaha. Ang ARMM, pero wa pa man gihapon sila na-kuntento ana. Ang sa akong pagsabot, ang karong Bangsamoro, murag gadungag na man sad silag teritoryo.

i agree. na ngayo lang gyud silag dako2x.. pero sa akoa lang.. kung mao ra ni makahatag ug kalinaw sa Mindanao.. suwayan lang sd gd nato..

pero kung mo demand pa gyud silag lain, aw kana di na mao.. i believed part sa agreement, is dili mo demand kung wala sa framework.. so for now, ok pa.. i hope peace ang result ani..

[naxi85]

hahaha!paeta, another peace agreement. ambot lang kaha kon di ni mugara ang uban.
naapil lage ang tangkal sa ila territory nga duol ra man nis ubang bukid sa lanao del norte ug kasagarang ngpuyo anang lugara ky christian mn...

[salbahis]

i dont care what kind of state they want as long its is still part of the philippines, i just hope this time peace will "REALLY" prevail... as long as there are characters who have personal agenda... there will be never be peace in this region... but im not being negative, i maybe be not 100% from mindanao but i grew up there... its my 3rd home...

[elvandesantos]

3. The Parties recognize the need to strengthen the Shari’ah courts and to expand their jurisdiction over cases. The Bangsamoro shall have competence over the Shari’ah justice system. The supremacy of Shari’ah and its application shall only be to Muslims.

4. The Bangsamoro Basic Law may provide for the power of the Bangsamoro Government to accredit halal-certifying bodies in the Bangsamoro.

5. The Bangsamoro Basic Law shall provide for justice institutions in the Bangsamoro. This includes:
a) The competence over the Shari’ah justice system, as well as the formal institutionalization and operation of its functions, and the expansion of the jurisdiction of the Shari’ah courts;

Kini bro ba sakto jud ka ang mga Christian nga namoyo diha ayaw ingna dili ma apil anang shariah courts;

yeah.. like for instance. im from lanao del norte. but we have a property in baloi which is a well known MNLF hotspot. what will happen to us there? mahimo nasad nah ug frontline between MILF and MNLF.. and wait.. katoh pagyud grupo ni umbra kato.. hahayz. well, more photo op for me pag mka visita ko hahaha. mag palit nagyud ko military grade helmet ani kalakiha kun mobisita ko did2.

by the way, naa bah mention sah papers regarding MNLF old jurisdictions?? i mean, naa nah sad sila foothold on some places.

[i_the_mighty]

1. The core territory of the Bangsamoro shall be composed of: (a) the present geographical area of the ARMM; (b) the Municipalities of Baloi, Munai, Nunungan, Pantar, Tagoloan and Tangkal in the province of Lanao del Norte and all other barangays in the Municipalities of Kabacan, Carmen, Aleosan, Pigkawayan, Pikit, and Midsayap that voted for inclusion in the ARMM during the 2001 plebiscite; (c) the cities of Cotabato and Isabela; and (d) all other contiguous areas where there is a resolution of the local government unit or a petition of at least ten percent (10%) of the qualified voters in the area asking for their inclusion at least two months prior to the conduct of the ratification of the Bangsamoro Basic Law and the process of delimitation of the Bangsamoro as mentioned in the next paragraph.

I have doubts on how these places in bold got included on this list. As far as I know, these places have either Moro settlements or its passageways. Question is, do the residents of these areas in favor of being included? Or are they terrorized to do so?

[JAINI]

unyag kahuman ani naa nasad laing grupo nya mo demand nasad. walay kahumanan.

[æRLO]

i dont care what kind of state they want as long its is still part of the philippines, i just hope this time peace will "REALLY" prevail... as long as there are characters who have personal agenda... there will be peace in this region... but im not being negative, i maybe be not 100% from mindanao but i grew in there... its my 3rd home...

looking at the binding clause of the agreement, it is still part of the Philippines. What I'm worried about is if the government will follow this trend of leniency with any degree of partitioning, and the trend of making compromises with separatists--I just hope this is the extent of it. The GRP has to be firmer with its resolution. This appears to be sort of a prelude to Balkanization. It's all good for out Muslim brothers to have that much degree of autonomy, but I hope diha rasad na kutob. I hope they will abandon their secessionist agendas.