Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

[shinx]

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another hit of international embarrassment.

[eezychair]

Did you actually call him?

It's in the news item, last part:

"On sick leave
The Philippine Daily Inquirer repeatedly called Garcia through his two mobile phones on Monday afternoon but there was no answer. It was learned that the monsignor was on sick leave and was in Manila."

[Bears Grill]

It's in the news item, last part:

"On sick leave
The Philippine Daily Inquirer repeatedly called Garcia through his two mobile phones on Monday afternoon but there was no answer. It was learned that the monsignor was on sick leave and was in Manila."

mao naman nang style karon. Imbestigaron na gani, pasakit-sakit dayon para maka-andam sila ug scripted nga tubag.

[Bears Grill]

I thought Exodus 20:4 says:

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Tsk, tsk, tsk....as long as business is good, we can ignore that one, right?

[eezychair]

I thought Exodus 20:4 says:


Tsk, tsk, tsk....as long as business is good, we can ignore that one, right?

Up until now, I am still wondering whether my Bible is the same Bible being used by them. Exodus 20:4 is clear enough NOT to be misunderstood, so defying it must be deliberate, which makes it even worse.

[kit_cebu]

maypa's father tropa ani.....

[jack_bauer]

I thought Exodus 20:4 says:


Tsk, tsk, tsk....as long as business is good, we can ignore that one, right?

Up until now, I am still wondering whether my Bible is the same Bible being used by them. Exodus 20:4 is clear enough NOT to be misunderstood, so defying it must be deliberate, which makes it even worse.

bro, curious lang ko.. di man kaayo ko suheto anang bible.. nganong lahi man ang exodus 20:24 sa 20:4, murag ga conflict lagi ni silang duha ka verse?
nga akong g.search sa net..

New International Version (©1984)
"'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.

Exodus 20:24 "'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.

[THE KID]

[eezychair]

bro, curious lang ko.. di man kaayo ko suheto anang bible.. nganong lahi man ang exodus 20:24 sa 20:4, murag ga conflict lagi ni silang duha ka verse?
nga akong g.search sa net..



Exodus 20:24 "'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.

OT:
Ang akong Bible kay ang Recovery Version.

Exodus 20:4
You shall not make for yourself an idol, nor the form of anything that is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water beneath the earth.

Ug atong isumpay ang sugod sa 20:5 which is relevant pud... 'You shall not bow down to them, and you shall not serve them; ....'

Exodus 20:24 An altar of earth you shall make for Me, and shall sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, you sheep and your oxen; in every place where I cause My name to be remembered, I will come to you and bless you.

Ang Altar within the context sa Old Testament is a like a table wherein offerings for God are made (for Me and sacrifice on it.... ). Dili ni siya sama sa altar nato karon nga gi.associate na nga butanganan ug mga idols kun diin ang believers mu.'bow down' in prayer and worship.

OnT:

This topic is not about Religion, but just the fact that Ivory is rampantly being smuggled into and out of the country which is devastating, to say the least to the population of elephants in africa and elsewhere. These are then carved mostly into religious icons and patronized by those who can afford it - even if they very well know it is wrong. This should STOP!

[chrisvil]

OT:
Ang akong Bible kay ang Recovery Version.

Exodus 20:4
You shall not make for yourself an idol, nor the form of anything that is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water beneath the earth.

Ug atong isumpay ang sugod sa 20:5 which is relevant pud... 'You shall not bow down to them, and you shall not serve them; ....'

Exodus 20:24 An altar of earth you shall make for Me, and shall sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, you sheep and your oxen; in every place where I cause My name to be remembered, I will come to you and bless you.

Ang Altar within the context sa Old Testament is a like a table wherein offerings for God are made (for Me and sacrifice on it.... ). Dili ni siya sama sa altar nato karon nga gi.associate na nga butanganan ug mga idols kun diin ang believers mu.'bow down' in prayer and worship.

OnT:

This topic is not about Religion, but just the fact that Ivory is rampantly being smuggled into and out of the country which is devastating, to say the least to the population of elephants in africa and elsewhere. This should STOP!

Hinimo mana sa tawo bro or nag translate ana kay bias. Natural pabor gyud niya ang iyang sulat aron maka kwarta.

Kaning man gud mga relihiyon karon manag lalis kay copetensiya-ay man gud ni sila aron maka tapok ug daghan tawo. Now, the more daghan tawo, the more daghan kwarta kay kada usa kono nato dapat mohatag ug kwarta. And naka daut man gud ani nila kay isig panaway sa usa ka relihiyon pud, isig bantaya'y sa sayop sa usa o sa ubang mga sayop. Akong nasabtan na tawo lamang kita subject to imperfection ang tawo. Kani pud sige'g panaway wala sad tan-awa ilang kaugalingon tugkaran.

Sa pagka tinood lang kaning mga relihiyon ma katoliko, born-again, INC, Eli Soriano ug uban pa, MONEY-MAKING business man ni sila. Pa Holy-holy dayon aron ingnon mga yawa diay. Haay nako aning mga tawhana ug ako pay si Kristo dugay na tamo gipanglatos. Ako lang tambag ninyo ay, Maayo pa mag-ampo nalang mo walay hatagai ug kwarta. Kay kaning mga pastor, pari ug kinsa pa nang mga hipocrito dinha mga nawong rana ug kwarta.

Naa pay uban ingnon ka na malangit ka if mo sunod ka nila. Grabe kaayo na pangilad. Ako lang question, naka adto na diay mo sa langit or kalibotanong langit cguro inyo naabtan.