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  1. #71

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ


    >>>>> Can you advise good laptop for gaming? I'm planning to buy one my budget around 30k - 40k.

    Appreciate your response ^_^

  2. #72

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmarkets View Post
    COrrection:



    There is a big difference with i3 and i5.

    1.) Even if it's a 3rd generation i3 laptop, you can't easily say your 3rd gen is faster against any i5.
    Like any other laptop brands, you can't easily compare the performance just bec you have a msi and the other one is hp. Like Processors you don't easily compare them by Generation it was made. 3rd Generaton processors are ONLY 3-5% faster than 2nd gen. and consumes 10w less. One major thing to look out in a processors will be their "ghz".

    SO Obviously if you have an i5 2nd GEN running 2.60ghz, and i3 3rd GEN running 2.40ghz = i5 WINS!

    Why?

    2.) i3's are dual cores with 4 hyperthreading which makes it only 2 pure cores, 2 "illusion" cores running in taskmanager.
    i5's are NOT dual cores but QUAD cores with 4 hyperthreading which makes it 4 TRUE CORES running in taskmanager.
    i7's are quad cores with 4 true cores running 8 hyperthreading.

    3.) Processors model. They are different. The real deal is what MODEL is that laptop processor is carrying.
    2nd - 3rd generation processors are made up of FOUR numbers. 2nd gen starts with 2 and 3rd gen. starts with 3.
    i3 2+++ (i3 and 2, ARE ONLY THE BRAND, the next +++ will be THE MODEL)
    i3 3+++

    This tells the Ghz, cache, etc.


    TO CONCLUDE,

    i5's in most cases are faster than i3's because they are running 4 TRUE CORES/QUAD the other is just 2.
    It DEPENDS ON THE "MODEL" NOT THE BRAND, not by generation it was made.

    Example:

    i5's 3rd gen with Clock rate of 1.8ghz. vs i3's 2nd gen CLock rate 2.60ghz. which do you think WINS?


    IMHO: I would still pick i5 any day against any i3 even if its 3rd gen. bec of the 4 cores against 2.



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    By the way, Nice Laptop.

    Owned, i3, i5, i7.

    and I forgot to mention lol.
    GRAPHICS CARD wil always be at the top OVER any PROCESSORS out there.
    and notebook should have a good amount of cooling factor , the higher the heat, the slower the performance it gets.
    so. .

    GRAPHICS CARD > PROCESSOR > COOLING FACTOR > RAM > FOLLOWED BY ETC > . . .
    I agree to this, i5 is faster than i3... also i3 is dual core with 4hyper treading while i5 is pure quad core.. <= however this is only true for desktop bro.. try to search it in google, sa laptop ang i5 kai dual core ra with hyperthreading.. try to search all models sa i5 for laptop dbah its just dual core.. the only quadcore processor sa laptop is i7..
    for example this spec sa i5:source: ARK | Intel® Core

    Intel® Core™ i5-3210M Processor
    (3M Cache, up to 3.10 GHz, rPGA

    Status Launched
    Launch Date Q2'12
    Processor Number i5-3210M
    # of Cores 2
    # of Threads 4
    Clock Speed 2.5 GHz
    Max Turbo Frequency 3.1 GHz
    Intel® Smart Cache 3 MB
    Bus/Core Ratio 25
    DMI 5 GT/s
    Instruction Set 64-bit
    Instruction Set Extensions AVX
    Embedded Options Available No
    Lithography 22 nm
    Max TDP 35 W
    Recommended Customer Price TRAY: $225.00

    source: ARK | Intel® Core

    2nd gen to 3rd gen has increased performance about 5-10%... which i would say is about 0.1-.2 ghz... and 3rd gen consumes less power in full load, on idle load doesnt really make a difference... so if i5 or i3 are both dual core with hyperthreading then u can now decide just by looking at the ghz.. the only difference i guess is the turbo boost feature of i5 proces... i believe intel made it this way for mobile or laptop processors para dli kaau init, i just think so but not sure.. bsta the point is i3 and i5 are both dual core with 4 hyperthreading cores if we are talking about laptop...

    also in terms of gaming bro, u dnt need quadcore power,, dual core is enough and the rest leave it to your video card... which would you choose i5 with gt550m vc? or i3 with gt660m vc? ... in these days games are dependent to videocard..

    anyway hope its clear to u now that we are talking about laptops here, not desktop..

    Desktop PC:
    i3 = 2 cores and 4 hyperthreading - turbo boost: no
    i5 = 4 cores and 4 hyperthreading - turbo boost: yes
    i7 = 4 cores and 8 hyperthreading - turbo boost: yes

    Laptop or mobile computer:

    i3 = 2 cores and 4 hyperthreading - turbo boost: no
    i5 = 2 cores and 4 hyperthreading - turbo boost: yes
    i7 = 4 cores and 8 hyperthreading - turbo boost: yes

    but knowing this, still i5 wins even though i3 and i5 are both dual cores in laptop.. why? because i5 has turbo boost while i3 don't have turbo boost.. turbo boost improve the processors frequency for about 20-30%, anyhow u dnt need that for gaming..

    so for laptop if I were to choose, i would go for i5 if I have budget.. but if I only have limited funds then it would be wise to get the i3 since if all you want is gaming i3 is sufficient enough, then difference in price is about 5-6k and thats a lot of money... but its really up to you guyz.. im just here to give you ideas...

    i5's 3rd gen with Clock rate of 1.8ghz. vs i3's 2nd gen CLock rate 2.60ghz. which do you think WINS?
    if we are only talking about processor here with out VC, i would pick 3rd gen i3 1.8ghz.. why?? simply because it consumes less power, saves you money.. it has intel HD 4000 graphics which is two times faster then 2nd generation intel HD 3000 graphics... and intel HD 4000 graphics are far more superior than low end discrete graphics card... so you get performance plus saves you on your electric bill..

  3. #73

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    Quote Originally Posted by akomao View Post
    @sempron guy

    naa cya Exclusive Turbo Drive Engine technology*

    MSI Turbo Drive Engine (TDE) technology brings more calculating speed to enhance the system performance. It benefits the video decoding/encoding, 3D gaming and art work designing. With MSI TDE Technology, you can experience faster response time and efficient real-time data processing.
    *The test result differs under different testing environment

    when running cpu/gpu intensive apps auto turbo mode cya. i can also activate it with one hit of a button

    naka nindot jud ani nga laptop naa cyay slot for M-sata

    unta maka afford ko ani puhon OCZ Nocti mSATA SSD - OCZ
    naa ka idea unsaon pag dugang ug msata for cache lng?

  4. #74

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    hahayy kalami naman jud ipalit ug ing ani nga laptop. walay installment nga ing ani? ni try ko sa EMCOR pero mo canvass pa pud ko sa lain

  5. #75

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    Quote Originally Posted by pepponeskie View Post
    naa ka idea unsaon pag dugang ug msata for cache lng?

    i think lenovo laptops with m-sata feature are equipped with ExpressCache software
    Last edited by akomao; 09-11-2012 at 02:56 AM.

  6. #76

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    mga sir,ask lng unta ko kung descent na nga build ang lenovo z470. specs niya kay i5 2.5ghz nya 4g ram. 500g hd. amd radeon
    1g. pwede na cya pang bug-at nga games like battlefield,d3 ug uban pa? mao raman kaya sa budget gud. thanx sa inyo mga
    inputs daan.

  7. #77

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    Nindot ning mga gaming laptops sa MSI. I have the GX660 and it is almost 2 years old na pero wa jud ni problema. Wa gali ni palong2x for 2 weeks straight usahay, no BSOD ever since I purchased the laptop. The cooling system is also very excellent.

  8. #78

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    Quote Originally Posted by tristana View Post
    mga sir,ask lng unta ko kung descent na nga build ang lenovo z470. specs niya kay i5 2.5ghz nya 4g ram. 500g hd. amd radeon
    1g. pwede na cya pang bug-at nga games like battlefield,d3 ug uban pa? mao raman kaya sa budget gud. thanx sa inyo mga
    inputs daan.
    pila diay imong budget boss? if you desire to play games like battlefield in decent FPS ayaw nlng expect na nindot ang performance hehe.

  9. #79

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    nah,grabe ka limited lagi sir,daginot pa sa tanang daginot.
    27 ra jud kutob ang budget,sakit na au ang 32k para sa msi,d na jud kaabot,hehehe

  10. #80

    Default Re: gaming laptop for poor people MSI GE60 0NC-i3145+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ

    hehe, if not main priority ang games like bf3 naa naka nindot mapalit with that amount

    like this ASUS K43SD VX465 - BLUE | I3 2350M, 2GB, 750GB, GT610 2GB DDR3, DOS PHP 26,995.00

    ref link : PC Corner Online

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