OPEN FORUM On Free Internet (USB Modems)

[orochimaru700]

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Illogical analogy. No sense at all.

clearly your not looking the bigger picture here. . .

[orochimaru700]

They have securities, you are breaching their securities. I tried wi-free before and not until I noticed that the system opens a port that's not for http, then I realized that this is illegal. If internet ra inyo i-access, why would you open ports other than port 80, port 443, and ports being used for SMTP/POP3/IMAP? To bypass their security.

for sure that security breach naa na sa reports sa TELCOS, again cla ra naay solution kung nag problema cla sa mga vpn users, wala tay say, ideas ra ato ma share diri..

[twEATer]

for sure that security breach naa na sa reports sa TELCOS, again cla ra naay solution kung nag problema cla sa mga vpn users, wala tay say, ideas ra ato ma share diri..

See? Luto na pd ka sa imu kaugalingong post. Security breach dyd na inyo gahimuon.

[orochimaru700]

mokuha tag lain example sa internet security breach brod ha para mka ingon ka nga logical...

remember PSN hacked by anonymous, steals users data even credit card details? so g unsa man sa Sony? dba g tighten nila ila internet security para dili ma usab? so, instead nga pangita-on si anonymous nga adto nag tago sa planet mars, ila g focus ang ila internet security. . . Now PSN is more secured. . .

mao ra na diri brod, "security breach" <<<--- naa nay solution, naa rana sa TELCOS ang solution...

[orochimaru700]

See? Luto na pd ka sa imu kaugalingong post. Security breach dyd na inyo gahimuon.

huh? unsay napud? lol... ni quote ra ko sa imo quote nga "security breach" lol.

[netcommando]

Everybody is invited to participate in the discussion here.
The purpose of this thread is to listen to your thoughts before I lock all "Free Internet" threads.

Here are the two reasons why I am going to lock the said threads:

1.) You are giving away free internet using intellectual property.
I am not familiar with intellectual property theft definition but it's the closest thing that I can think of.
Ang pangutana - Diin man mo nagkuha ug signal para ipanghatag sa inyong mga "subscriber"?
Inyoha nang signal? If not, then kang kinsa man?
Are you paying for it and then distributing it for free? Or plainly stealing it?
If it is indeed stolen from commercial resources, then istorya.net will not tolerate such acts.

2.) This contradicts with some of our Google Ads.
Obviously, part of istorya.net's income comes from the banner advertisements you see all over the forum.
At random times, most particularly on specific sections discussing these "free internet" services, Google Adsense displays banners advertising the services and products of these telecommunications companies which are directly affected by free internet. I guess there's no need to explain further kung ngano ironic kaayo nga nagtolerate mi ug free internet and at the same time the site is partly being supported financially by the said companies.

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Refresh.... back to the topic.

[orochimaru700]

sorry mods for the off topic posts...

[twEATer]

huh? unsay napud? lol... ni quote ra ko sa imo quote nga "security breach" lol.

OT: Define QUOTE?
1. To repeat or copy the words of (another), usually with acknowledgment of the source.

You were simply explaining your point and not quoting my post. tsk3x...

OnT:
At least you admitted that you clearly violated the terms and conditions of these telcos.

ako answeran ni bai and explain further..

tanan answer: a big NO...

This is not about stopping you from using these VPN's to connect to the internet. You have all the right to use it at your own free will - legal or illegal as how one or another may define it. The point raised here by Boss YJOB is - Is it appropriate to have these types of thread here in iStorya? I am not speaking on their behalf but that's how I understood the point of this thread. They are more over concerned of the entire community. We'll never know that day may come where these telco's will report istorya.net due to accommodating these type of conversations of free internet via VPN using these telco's facilities (including their signal - not mine nor yours).

[ibaning]

buying the modem and simpack is as good as paying them. kun naa na nato ang modem ug sim we need data para maka internet. palit ta ug data para maka internet. since vpn is using our own data from the servers nga amo gipalit, there's no need to pay to the ISP. it's true nga gigamit namo ang ila signal since apil na cya sa pagpalit sa modem ug sim.

for me it's not logical to pay the ISP for data if i am using my own data gikan sa ako nga server gipalit.

talking about (initial capital + operating expenses) for me there's no need to worry kay ang mga ISP are earning millions of pesos every year. same reason ngano mahal ang net connection, the telcos are earning millions. ang vpn owners are not earning millions mao nga tag 30-100 per month ra ang bayad.

y should u pay? coz u owe to them (telcos) so u can operate ur business. they deserve their cut too. ur buying data from different provider and ur so kind enough to use local telco's infra for free, how ironic is that? ur data is passing thru telco's network as additional bandwidth or should i say excess bagage!

if u still dont get it? think of it this way. ever wonder y we shud pay to pass thru expressways? coz these highways arent natural wonders, they're man made...and that means $$$$$$ to build & maintain!

CEBU(user) <===> car<(data) <===> expressways(telco) <===> MARS(paidd VPN server)

idol kaau ni nako sila twEATer, tsunade ug netcommando *BOW*

[psychemaster]

lisod kaayo makipag argue sa mga tawo nga wala or dili kahibalo mo set up ug vpn server sulod sa vps.

Q:y should u pay? coz u owe to them (telcos) so u can operate ur business. they deserve their cut too.
A:hays naglisod man gani mi bayad sa maintenance sa mga servers unya pabayaron na nuon mi nimo sa telco nga nag earn of millions kaga tuig. nice suggestion. the rich will become richer and the poor never mind.

Q:ur buying data from different provider and ur so kind enough to use local telco's infra for free, how ironic is that?
A:i have the right to buy data from different provider since i bought the modem. i can use the modem anyway i want.

Q:ur data is passing thru telco's network as additional bandwidth or should i say excess bagage!
A:any proof? i hope your not just guessing.

Tweater

Again it is not the data from the VPN server that you are paying. VPN server doesn't contain the data that you want to access (e.g. naa sa VPN server ninyo ang data from Facebook?) Ang use of VPN server is to facilitate the secured connection that will be established through these telco's network.

A: pagsure dha tweater. kinsa nag ingon nimo nga ang server gigamit namo sa vpn wala data? the truth is when the server runs out of data it will go down ug dili na magamit.

About sa signal kay dili kami ang tag-iya pero it is free mao no need to pay. Data is not free mao nagpalit mi ug server to give data instead ang telcos mao maghatag ug data nga perting mahala. One reason ngano barato ang VPN kay data from US barato ra unlike data from Asia nga mahal kaayo.