pasakaan ug kaso ang manganak nga dili minyo.. let's discuss

[thethird79]

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ahw, kung mao na imo analogy, i think sayup na nga example.
coz like i said, unless kung everyday ka maglitson, basin possible.
having a child is not only for one time. you'll gonna have her/him for the rest of his life, or your life.

u don't get it
it simply means there's no limit in having a child.
but i know what u mean.

[thethird79]

bisag 1 million pa ka bata imo himoon
it's a human right!
unsaon nimo pag pa dako, imoha na na consciensya or maturity

[carbrill]

bisag 1 million pa ka bata imo himoon
it's a human right!
unsaon nimo pag pa dako, imoha na na consciensya or maturity

lagi human right lagi na. but where is the right for the human to live with dignity? kung di ka maka pa school sa imong mga anak ug tarong maka pakaon ug 3x a day nila... den ang uban ana kawatang dako sa dalan criminal ug uban nga mga sakit sa lipunan... now is it right for human to live under a pile of card boards? or to live in the street with out food to eat... and to die unjustly and undignified way...

or to send a person in school having a decent job to eat at least 3x a day. and to be a helpful person to others...

so where is the human right there?

[sakagawasan]

Kung mao ni, kadaghan mahimong salvador del mundo ani karon.

[aldrin89]

makapataas ni sa rate sa abortion, kay mahadlok ma priso, tsk tsk tsk

[newbie.86]

moral dilemma na nuon, but pili lang ta:

A: i-abort ang mga unwanted children -- at least naa'y dignidad ilang pagkamatay kay di sila mo-antos sa kalisod sa kinabuhi;

or

B: buhion ang mga unwanted children, but naglisod kaau pakaon og paeskwela.


which one is the right decision to make?

[thethird79]

lagi human right lagi na. but where is the right for the human to live with dignity? kung di ka maka pa school sa imong mga anak ug tarong maka pakaon ug 3x a day nila... den ang uban ana kawatang dako sa dalan criminal ug uban nga mga sakit sa lipunan... now is it right for human to live under a pile of card board? or to live in the street...

so where is the human right there?

If you intend to have children and no plans to enroll them to school, well, that's not human right.
Problem is, all pregnant women or couples planning to have a child, if you ask them, do you have plans to send your kids to school. Their answer will always be YES. And this goes on a cycle until they have no more room left for the children to sleep at home.

I think the big issue here is freedom. Whose decision it is for a family to have kids. 2 kids or thousands? That is what human right is all about. It's a familys decision. They become poor, or their kids have nothing to eat. It's up to them. Cases where in kids become criminal, we don't blame the parents alone. Just as we don't attribute everything to the parents for the success of an individual. Both parties play roles in the build up of a person.

Again, the "choice" as to "how many" cars we want to have, how many lechon we want to eat, how many houses we build, is not for other party to decide, but for the agent as long as it is for the good of the family and the community.

But i do go with the idea that parents should be "very careful" when deciding to have kids.

[willard]

kung mao na..dghan kau ma kasuhan..

[carbrill]

moral dilemma na nuon, but pili lang ta:

A: i-abort ang mga unwanted children -- at least naa'y dignidad ilang pagkamatay kay wala sila nagsuffer sa kalisod sa kinabuhi

B: buhion ang mga unwanted children, but naglisod kaau pakaon og paeskwela.

pls. define dignity?

where is dignity in abortion?

daghan pang option di lang duha... abortion is not an option...

u can deliver the child and let him grow in the orphanage to be given a chance to be raise by a decent family... whereas killing it?

[carbrill]

If you intend to have children and no plans to enroll them to school, well, that's not human right.
Problem is, all pregnant women or couples planning to have a child, if you ask them, do you have plans to send your kids to school. Their answer will always be YES. And this goes on a cycle until they have no more room left for the children to sleep at home.

I think the big issue here is freedom. Whose decision it is for a family to have kids. 2 kids or thousands? That is what human right is all about. It's a familys decision. They become poor, or their kids have nothing to eat. It's up to them. Cases where in kids become criminal, we don't blame the parents alone. Just as we don't attribute everything to the parents for the success of an individual. Both parties play roles in the build up of a person.

Again, the "choice" as to "how many" cars we want to have, how many lechon we want to eat, how many houses we build, is not for other party to decide, but for the agent as long as it is for the good of the family and the community.

But i do go with the idea that parents should be "very careful" when deciding to have kids.

yes it is human's right to have children but it is not right to have plenty of children and then we can't afford to provide them the necessary things they need...

so ur saying the problem is freedom. i think we all know that freedom is not absolute... freedom has limitation... that's y every where there is rules and regulation and laws... that's y there should be a law will give choices to the family how they should manage to limit their family... kay kung pasagdan lang na nmo ang mga tao mag patunga ra na... i think kibaw ta aning tanan...