Wala ko patuluga ani, hope naay mka explain.

[Butitor]

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Ga expect ko ug gamay lang na post para ma answer ako honest and curious question. Sayon ra huna-hunaon pero murag nagka complicate na man. Bason walay mag away2x kay pareha ra bya ko ninyo nangita ug explanation.

[dartzed]

I am fully aware of the link that you provided and actually it says that the water is compressible though not in a greater extent. And it is more compressible when we take into account that the water we are putting into the jar are seawater. Seawater are composed not only of water but other impurities as well, like dissolved gases, adding to the possibilities that your container would break when brought to the surface, though not explosively.

I think you should read well the question and take your lesson on seawater composition as well.

quite stingy of you my friend..

or perhaps you should read sad the question bro sa TS i think wala man sad ta nagtalk bout the composition sa seawater, given sa compressability sa liqiud kapicture out ka bro sa 1.8% decrease in volume of water at 4Km deep? if you take the account sad sa kalawmon seriously kaabot kaha ka anang 4km deep para mukuha sad ug samples?..

now naay saun nga process to know kana info ako gihatag bout hydraulics.. i'm quite aware of the question i'm just giving you infos on where to learn more on how different liquids behave (weather pure or naay lain impurities) in the presence of pressure w/c is mostly discussed in hydraulics.. now if you don't need the infos maybe perhaps kamao naka ana then no need for you to get cocky i'm just sharing here and perhaps naa pay lain interested sa info aside nimo bro..

[Cybernaut]

quite stingy of you my friend..

or perhaps you should read sad the question bro sa TS i think wala man sad ta nagtalk bout the composition sa seawater, given sa compressability sa liqiud kapicture out ka bro sa 1.8% decrease in volume of water at 4Km deep? if you take the account sad sa kalawmon seriously kaabot kaha ka anang 4km deep para mukuha sad ug samples?..

now naay saun nga process to know kana info ako gihatag bout hydraulics.. i'm quite aware of the question i'm just giving you infos on where to learn more on how different liquids behave (weather pure or naay lain impurities) in the presence of pressure w/c is mostly discussed in hydraulics.. now if you don't need the infos maybe perhaps kamao naka ana then no need for you to get cocky i'm just sharing here and perhaps naa pay lain interested sa info aside nimo bro..

Yes you are right. The TS question did not mention anything about seawater composition, sama ra pud nga wala sya nagmention anything about compression of liquid also or hydraulics. But he mentioned about seawater, which made me think that it is proper to know first what composed it before going directly to any conclusion given by Wikipedia. And in terms about the depth where we take our samples, kay nag ingon man si TS nga kuhaon ni "sa lalom kaayo" nga bahin sa dagat, it did not occur to me that we are limited only to 4km deep, because it is possible also to get sample of more than 4km deep using submersible.

What I am trying to say is that the seawater is composed of dissolved gases that readily shrink or expand depending on the pressure applied to them. I think a knowledge in hydraulics alone cannot predict what will happen to the container when brought to the surface.

I am not trying to get cocky, I am just trying to argue and telling the information that you need to look because you might be overlooking something that will lead to wrong information. But this is a rich argument. I like it.

[gwaping]

Pag magdala ko ug empty vessel (ex. garapon/jar) sa lalom kaayo na dagat and knowing na ang pressure mas dako kumpara sa near surface. Kung sudlan nako ug tubig samtang naa ko sa ilalom daun takloban, pag magpa ibabaw na ko ang pressure sa tubig sulod sa garapon pareha ra sa ilalom?

ang pressure TS kay parehas sa iyang ka level. og imo dad-on balik sa ibabawng bahin sa tubig ang pressure parehas sa ibabaw nga bahin

[gwaping]

unsa man after nimo sudlon ang jar sa ilawom sa dagat imo sirad-an like a complete vacuum? then same pressure sa ilawum dagat ug pagdala sa surface kay wala man kasulod ang atmospheric pressure sa sea level which is constant (can't remember the value). pero kung sirad-an sa ilawum dagat then ablehan sa sea level then mas dako ang pressure kay ma add man ang pressure sa ilawum ug atmospheric pressure then ang value sa pressure magkagamay kay mo evaporate until mo equal sa atmospheric pressure.

murag 1atm bai ang normal og 1pascal sad siguro di ko sure hehe

[gwaping]

para nako ang pressure sa tubig naa sud sa garapun og ang pressure sa water on the sureface of the sea is pareha ra.

we can apply the formula P = dgh *where d = density g = gravity constant and h = height/depth

so ang tubig nga naa sa garapon og ang tubig on the surface of the sea kay parehas og composition, parehas jud sila og density thus, making them to have an equal pressure.

naay tendency nga ang garapon didto ilawm sa tubig (air pa ang sulod) nga mabuak kay as we all know water is less dens compared sa water, so when h approaches to a very big value, maka create jud siya og big difference between pressure sa tubig outside og air inside the garapon.

mao na sa akong paglantaw

[dartzed]

Yes you are right. The TS question did not mention anything about seawater composition, sama ra pud nga wala sya nagmention anything about compression of liquid also or hydraulics. But he mentioned about seawater, which made me think that it is proper to know first what composed it before going directly to any conclusion given by Wikipedia. And in terms about the depth where we take our samples, kay nag ingon man si TS nga kuhaon ni "sa lalom kaayo" nga bahin sa dagat, it did not occur to me that we are limited only to 4km deep, because it is possible also to get sample of more than 4km deep using submersible.

What I am trying to say is that the seawater is composed of dissolved gases that readily shrink or expand depending on the pressure applied to them. I think a knowledge in hydraulics alone cannot predict what will happen to the container when brought to the surface.

I am not trying to get cocky, I am just trying to argue and telling the information that you need to look because you might be overlooking something that will lead to wrong information. But this is a rich argument. I like it.

seriously kanang ilawm kaau, does it mean magkuha sad kag samples sa areas nga wala pa jud natugkad sa tao ug ila machines kay deli jud kaya?..

bro define hydraulics dba matubag na tanan imo ingon nko nga i just overlooked everything.. if d ka kadefine you refer to an encyclopedia nlang nya paki post nlang sad dre para daghan mkabaw unsa naa ana nga branch of science..

[one eye]

lingaw ko ani da up up up

[_hizuka_]

ang pressure ana bai.......... equivalent sa pressure sa ubos..

[afro.samurai10]

Ang akng nahibaw-an basta about pressure is mag agad mana cya sa height ug depth sa usa ka container.

if ang tubig imong gibutang sa garapon is from a depth of 200ft. Then imong gi surface, same raman ghapon cya nga tubig naa sa sulod sa imong garapon. Ang depth sa imong garapon ang himong pressure sa tubig nga naa sa sud ani.

Pariho ra gud na sa oxygen nga naa sa stratosphere na dapita. Wa naman kaau nay oxygen dha, then imo sad na i sud sa garapon mao raman na nga oxygen. Depende lng gyud cguro sa kalawmon kung asa nka...

base rani sa akong own pagsabot. Cguro sayop ko sa akong pagsabot, dawaton ra nako... Open minded man ta