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    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history


    sayang lang ky nabaliwala ang mga buhat ni marcos tungod sa mga nabuhat niya nga bati sd.

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    here is an interesting piece ..you will be the one to decide if its true or not..


    the link; A different EDSA story | headlines


    A different EDSA story

    Filipinos have short memories, unfinished businesses

    THERE IS another version of the EDSA People Power story, but it is one that EDSA veterans aren’t liking.

    In this new version, former President Ferdinand Marcos is portrayed as the real hero of EDSA for refusing to fire upon the assembled crowds in February 1986; EDSA was a gathering of military adventurists, veteran professional protesters and communists, and hakot crowds; and Corazon Aquino stayed tucked away in the safety of Cebu while unwitting civilians put their lives on the line.

    Marcos is hailed as the one who built massive infrastructure projects and rebuilt the economy; he is also the one who turned back the communists at the gates of Malacanang by declaring Martial Law. In addition, Marcos is portrayed as a close friend of oppositionist Benigno ‘Ninoy’ Aquino Jr., whom he jailed during Martial Law. In fact, this version says, Marcos and Ninoy would even chat with each other using scrambler telephones. As such, Marcos could never have ordered Ninoy’s assassination.

    As the nation marks the 26th anniversary of what the world has come to know as the People Power Revolution, young Filipinos who never experienced the events of February 1986 are left wondering again what all the ruckus is about. But what is most striking is the fact that this alternate version of the story is one that more and more young Filipinos are tuning into – and apparently identifying with and liking.

    This new version of the People Power story is being told over the Internet through social media sites, in a nine and a half minute video that seems like a cross between the Angry Birds game and the movie ‘Gladiator,’ with heart-pounding music, bold primary colors, and moving graphics, yet with simple lines of text that are well attuned to what one viewer calls the “Powerpoint generation.”



    Hidden truths?
    Titled “Ninoy + People Power: Hidden Truths the Media is not Telling Us!”, the video began gaining popularity in YouTube by the middle of last year and has since become viral. It has appeared or has been reposted in numerous websites and YouTube channels, and pops up repeatedly in FaceBook.

    The video’s creator, who calls himself Baron Buchokoy, maintains a YouTube channel called PinoyMonkeyPride. As of mid-February, the video that was posted in Buchokoy’s YouTube account in June 2011 already has more than 200,000 views. Buchokoy implies that the video has had more views, saying that the video in fact was just re-uploaded “since the powers that be hacked and removed it recently from YouTube.”

    This is proof, Buchokoy says in his introduction to the YouTube video, that “someone or some group is trying to hide the truth.”

    “Please spread the message,” he adds. “Marcos is the least suspect in the Ninoy assassination and that only 2% of the 1986 Philippine population attended EDSA People Power. Let’s end Filipino ignorance. It ends now.”

    IN THE past, such assertions had merely been dismissed as rumblings of Marcos sympathizers keen on putting their own spin into the history books to rehabilitate a fallen icon.

    “The points are not very new,” says Mon Casiple, executive director of the Institute for Political and Economic Reform (IPER). “These came out immediately after the assassination of Ninoy and right after EDSA 1.”

    “All these arguments were made by Marcos-aligned groups,” Casiple says. “It is a mixture of truth, lies, omissions, and, of course, a little bit of popular handling.”

    “That falsification or distortion of history may go some length, but it is like you can change the perception of Hitler and the Nazi regime,” comments Rene Saguisag, former spokesman of then President Corazon Aquino. “You saw the human rights violations and the plunder committed by the Marcoses during their merciless martial rule.


    Old version, new traction
    But if the number of views and the lively and passionate comments on YouTube are to be any indication, this new “old” version appears to be gaining traction with the youth. Too, the video is told in the language and the pace of the Net and video generation, something that neither pro-EDSA nor pro-Marcos proponents were able to maximize before.

    “It’s effective,” says 20-year-old Darlene Basingan, a PCIJ intern from De La Salle University in Cavite, after watching Buchokoy’s video. “Marcos was portrayed very negatively in the stories I had heard about EDSA. So I wondered if it could be true that everything about Cory was positive. Now I have been enlightened as to the truth after watching this video.”

    She says Marcos “wasn’t all negative” during the uprising. “Hindi naman pala niya gusto atakihin ang mga tao (He didn’t want to attack the people).”

    “This should be viewed by the youth,” says Basingan. “I suppose everything said here is true, based on facts, and not just someone’s imagination. If that is the case, this should be seen by other youth so they can have a bigger perspective of People Power.”

    “This is the only time I learned about this,” says JB, a sophomore computer science major. “I had never seen or heard about these things in any documentary. Not everything we heard about EDSA was true.”

    In Buchokoy’s YouTube account, a post by MrLangam read, “I used to be fooled by our history teacher using a false book.”

    “The only thing I can say is that this country needs a new Marcos, and history needs some revision,” said Maimiewow.

    “I cried after watching this video… this country is dying,” said Dyna1226. “Like a patient with cancer stage4.”

    Meanwhile, anelio21 said, “Dami na nating nagising na mga Filipino dahil sa video na ito. Maraming salamat sa gumawa nito (There are a lot of us who were awakened with this video. Thank you to the one who made this.).”

    Yet while the comments were overwhelmingly in favor of the video and its message, not everyone has been a happy fan. Said genocide222: “Most people who are commenting here are probably too young to really know what happened so please just don’t comment. Cory had a country that were in ruins in every aspect and was destined to fail, Marcos on the other hand came in with an economy that was one of the best in Asia and he just built on that, and he did a good job on that. I just think he became obsessed with the idea that he is the savior? of the country and did not want to let go. That’s why he was threatened by Ninoy.”

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    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history

    pro Marcos ko... hehehe
    anti Imelda lng ko...

    nindot man ta 2 pag.kadala ni marcos ata... wala cguro tulisan sa colon hangtud karon.. hilig lng jud sandal si Imelda... ahaha

  4. #54

    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history

    aw.. hilig og sapatos diay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by masky View Post
    si marcos before usa ka soldier tinuod na pero ...... naka pusil ba ha ka ni sya or nitago? para dili ma-igo sa bala...... and he's also the one who actually change the name of event from the fall of bataan to araw ng kagitingan which is wrong because this celebration misguided the course of event that took place in our phil soil.... the fall of bataan is very humiliating for america and pinoys who were defeated by the japanese many of us didn't know this part in our history....hahahaha

    It wasn't really humiliating. Think of Thermopylae or the Battle of Salamis. The odd of winning a war against a numerically superior enemy is thin, but the honor and respect is greatest. The Americans and Pinoys, were defending the northern islands up to this last stand, with all blood and tears. This is not humiliating, try researching history books first.

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    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history

    ... Pwede naay maka simplify sa ge post ni TS? Mag nosebleed and head seizures manko if ako e try ug basa.

    Si Marcos, naay good side ug bad side. Daghan siya ug accomplishments sa government jud. Ang problema lang niya kay iyang mga galamay, ug sa Imelda (ala Samson-Delilah story).

    Kato lang story sa ni collapse nga Cultural Center of the Philippines. Tungod kay nagdali si Imelda ma complete ang project, kay iya nalang gepa lubong ug gepa semento ang mga nangamatay nga trabahante.
    Last edited by Scott Bernard; 07-09-2012 at 07:05 AM.

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    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history

    marcos? gi sugar coat ra tong mga nindot nga na himo sa iyang panahon. ang tinuod kay inutang ra to tanan. mao nang pagka oust niya, na binlan ta og $28B nga utang unya nagbayad pa ta ani hangtod karon kay dako na kaayo ang interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastiphal View Post
    While sounding “nationalist” interested in the economic
    emancipation of the Filipino nation and pledging to let the
    Laurel-Langley Agreement, particularly parity rights, lapse
    in 1974, the Marcos puppet regime enacted as early as 1967
    the Investment Incentives Law which declares it the state policy
    to encourage foreign investments and defines a corporation with
    a maximum foreign equity of 40 per cent as a “Philippine national.”


    By this definition, the U.S. can create a system of
    interlocking corporations by which a “Philippine national”
    already bearing and camouflaging 40 per
    cent equity invests in another corporation and actually
    increases foreign equity in the latter corporation
    beyond 40 per cent. The law, however, clearly allows foreign
    equity to exceed 40 per cent in an old or new corporation registered
    with the Board of Investments and to remain so indefinitely as long as
    “Philippine nationals” do not buy the shares of stock offered in the stock
    exchange on the eleventh year after registration. In guaranteeing the
    property rights of foreign investors, the Investment Incentives
    Law goes to the extent of guaranteeing the right of nonexpropriation
    and exposes the primacy of foreign investments over any pretension of the
    present puppet state to sovereign rights. The ‘‘incentives” offered by the law
    are unprecedentedly abusive of the sovereign Filipino people and are geared
    to aggravating the colonial status of the Philippines.


    An insidious propaganda drive supporting the perpetuation of the interests of the U.S. monopolies in
    the Philippines has been unleashed by the counterrevolutionaries, especially by
    the C.I.A. and the American Jesuits through the Manglapus-Manahan gang.
    Brandishing their slogans of “peaceful revolution,” “constitutional reform” and
    “profit-sharing,” the Christian Social Movement, the
    Movement for the Advancement of Nationalism, the Congressional Economic
    Planning Office and several other reformist groups spread the mendacious line
    that the nationalization of the economy could be advanced through legislation
    and through the stock market. The workers are told that they can
    become capitalists and can participate in joint ventures with foreign investors
    by going to the stock market to buy their own shares and putting on mortgage their future wages. This is akin to the old lie repeatedly told to the landless peasants that they can become landowners by buying land from the landlords.


    There has been so much ado about another colonial Constitutional Convention.
    It is publicized as a channel for changing the status quo. The actual purpose of
    the Constitutional Convention, however, is to adjust the wording of the colonial
    constitution to such a law as the Investment Incentives Law and the treaty of
    friendship, commerce and navigation between the U.S. and the Philippines which
    is now being prepared.


    The broad masses of the people are reminded at every turn that they have to attract and be
    hospitable to “dollar-bringing tourists,” meaning to say, the U.S. monopolies. Every town or barrio is
    made to expect itself as a possible tourist spot in a clever campaign to counteract the growing sentiment
    of the people against U.S. imperialism.


    Rendering completely inutile the reformist view that the economic
    interests of U.S. imperialism could be taken over by the reactionary
    government or Filipino businessmen in accordance with “due
    process’’ and “just compensation,” the Marcos puppet regime
    has faithfully followed the dictation of U.S. imperialism to exhaust
    the financial resources of the reactionary government and to overburden
    the people with inflation and repeated devaluation. Despite the raising
    of taxes, the internal debt of the reactionary government has risen
    to the level of at least P6.0 billion because of the profligate spending
    on projects that merely deepen the semicolonial and semifeudal character
    of the economy. On top of this internal debt, an external debt of more
    than $l.9 billion has been incurred mainly with U.S. imperialism.
    Thus, the nation is severely afflicted with a financial crisis of unprecedented proportions.


    The broad masses of the people have to suffer steeply rising prices
    as a result of the rapid erosion of the purchasing value of the peso
    from within and from without. Taking advantage of the financial plight
    of the Philippine puppet government, U.S. through the International
    Monetary Fund has dictated the devaluation of the peso at the expense
    of the broad masses of the people. At the beginning of 1970, the value
    of the peso sank to the level of more than P6.00 per U.S. dollar from
    the previous level of P3.90 per U.S. dollar. This is the second time in
    only eight years that devaluation has been imposed on the people without
    any corresponding increases in their income. Since 1962, the prices
    of many basic commodities have gone up by more than 150 per
    cent. There is not a single commodity in the Philippines that is not
    affected by the rising costs of imported fuel, equipment, spare
    parts, raw materials, and the like.


    The Filipino businessmen is
    daily facing bankruptcy because its products are being squeezed
    out of the local market and it cannot avail itself of adequate credit
    assistance from a bankrupt puppet government. As a result of the
    peso devaluation, the value of U.S. assets in the Philippines and also of
    Philippine foreign debt has automatically increased. It is idle and downright
    stupid to expect the reactionary government or private Filipino
    stockbuyers to be able to buy out the U.S. monopolies.


    On the other hand, the reactionary government has become
    worse as a beggar of usurious foreign loans and
    Filipino-owned enterprises have become more than ever subject
    to takeover, assimilation or crushing by the U.S. monopolies.
    Devaluation has only made the Philippines more dependent on the
    U.S. dollar and has only served to aggravate the semicolonial
    and semifeudal character of the economy. though the Marcos puppet
    regime has flamboyantly declared so many towns in the country,
    especially in Central Luzon, as land reform areas, the reactionary
    government is simply bereft of the financial resources to carry
    out what it hypocritically labels as a land reform program. In the
    countryside of the Philippines, it has become too clear that only
    by waging a people’s war can the peasantry achieve agrarian
    revolution.


    In the city, the proletariat is pressed hard by mass layoffs and by
    the inflation caused by the workings of imperialism within and
    without the country. Only the reactionary classes in Philippine
    society have shared in the exploitative privileges and gains
    enjoyed by U.S. imperialism. The capitalist and the big landlord
    class have been extremely favored by the automatic increase
    of the peso equivalent of their dollar earnings on their raw
    material exports. They are the principal beneficiaries of the
    various public works projects facilitating the movement of
    raw material exports and finished manufacture imports.
    They have received various forms of “export incentives.”
    They have been extended the biggest loans in constructing and
    reconstructing milling facilities. Playing up to the trick of U.S.
    imperialism of using preferential trade for sugar as a lever for
    increasing its privileges in the Philippines, the Marcos puppet regime
    has extended the biggest loans for the construction of new sugar
    mills at so many points in the country. In the disposition of
    government funds and the granting of government approval for
    business projects, the bureaucrat capitalists led by Marcos have
    aggravated the economic crisis by exacting kickbacks on all
    sorts of government contracts.


    As a rabid puppet of U.S., Marcos has outdone Macapagal
    in sending Filipino mercenary troops to participate in the
    U.S. war of aggression in Vietnam and Indochina in general.
    Despite the worsening bankruptcy of the reactionary government,
    he dispatched the Philcag (Philippine Civic Action Group) to South Vietnam.
    Until now, there are Filipino mercenaries there who merely
    carry other labels, the Philcon, Operation Brotherhood and engineering firms.
    U.S. imperialism brazenly uses its military bases and Philippine skies
    and waters to conduct its wars of aggression in Asia. On U.S. military
    bases here, U.S. military personnel continue to murder, rape, and commit all
    kinds of abuses against the Filipino people and yet the Marcos puppet regime,
    like all previous puppet regimes, has conspired with the U.S. imperialists
    in holding “negotiations” that end in upholding the latter’s
    extraterritorial rights. Instead of fighting for the people’s sovereignty,
    the reactionary government unleashes its police and troops to attack
    the anti-imperialist protest actions of the people.
    The Marcos puppet regime has echoed every “new” policy and followed
    every “new” step taken by U.S. imperialism. It follows Nixon’s “new Asia policy”
    of “making Asians fight Asians.”


    It rabidly supports the U.S.-Japanese partnership in the Pacific
    and the troublemaking activities of this partnership in Asia.
    It bows to the U.S. imperialist policy of reviving Japanese militarism
    and making it play the role of fugleman for U.S. imperialism in Asia.
    Resurgent Japanese militarism is being promoted as the
    “regional leader” of Asia through the Asian Development Bank,
    the Asian Pacific Council (ASPAC), the Association of Southeast
    Asian Nations (ASEAN), the Southeast Asian Ministers Economic Council
    (SEAMEC), the “Asian Forum” and the like.


    Even before the ratification of the unequal Japan-R.P. Treaty of Amity,
    Commerce and Navigation, the Marcos puppet regime has encouraged
    the Japanese monopolies to invade the Philippines. They now rank as
    the second biggest foreign investor. Japanese commodities are being
    dumped into the country and Japanese investments are penetrating
    every major field of business activity. Japan today is next only to the
    United States in getting Philippine raw materials and ranks first
    in getting copper concentrates, logs, molasses and iron ores.
    Japan’s share of Philippine foreign trade is now more than 30 per cent.
    Its military vessels and fishing fleets do not respect the territorial waters of
    the Philippines. In a desperate attempt to hoodwink the Filipino people about Japan,
    the Marcos puppet regime is bandying about the lie that Japan is a
    benevolent aid-giver and actually begs for loans from it
    in exchange for the plunder of Philippine natural resources and exploitation
    of the people.


    Its war reparations payments which have been grabbed by the local
    reactionaries for themselves are even misrepresented as gracious
    aid to the people. The strategic Pan-Philippine highway is obsequiously
    called the Japanese Friendship Highway.The Marcos puppet regime has
    also steadily opened the way for trade and diplomatic relations
    with Soviet social-imperialism and other revisionist countries in
    line with the U.S. imperialist policy of maintaining a global alliance
    with the Soviet Union in opposing China, the people, revolution,
    and communism. In a futile attempt to deflect attention from itself, U.S.
    is raising the joint oppression and exploitation of the Filipino
    people by the United States, Japan and the Soviet Union. In
    this connection, there is an imperialist scheme to whip up the
    evil wind of modern revisionism inside the country.
    The local agents of modern revisionism, the bourgeois reactionary
    gang of the Lavas, are being accommodated in the arena of
    bourgeois parliamentarism in the scheme to sabotage
    the revolutionary mass movement.


    In carrying out its reactionary policies, the Marcos puppet regime has inevitably laid out its fascist
    character. Unable to cope with the political and economic crisis into which it has pushed the nation and
    also unable to deceive the people with such hypocritical slogans as “this nation can be great again” or
    “new Filipinism,” it has ruthlessly employed the apparatuses of the state to suppress the broad masses of
    the people through selective and mass terrorism. In conducting its anti-democratic campaign, it
    cynically waves the banner of “liberal democracy”


    http://www.geocities.ws/kabataangmakabayan64/psr.pdf
    So what's your point? Different time , Different Gov't , effects - Posting something we already know

    Master Yoda's Quote “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

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    Pro-Magsaysay!

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    Default Re: pro-Marcos ka? basaha ning Philippine history

    crying over spilled milk? reminiscing whatcouldhavebeen? ok move along....

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