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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    we need google sometimes...not just faith alone.
    Last edited by tophat; 06-18-2012 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tophat View Post
    we need google sometimes...not just faith alone.
    Lol .....

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    thanks for the reply. So can we assume that he was saved by Faith alone?
    Who? The paralysed man? (as in the example)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    that will still not change the fact of how many priests that rape or use young boys for pleasure and they get away with it. corrupt catholic officials, how those people talk highly of god in public but when they come home, theyre exactly the opposite.

    you can preach all day long but nothing will ever happen if you only have faith and youll just sit on your as$ doing nothing. those billionaires didnt make their money by calling out for god''s help instead they work day and night but your more than welcome to prove me wrong. stick with your faith and see how u go

    NOTE: its funny how u can make that david whoever that is to set as an example about how your god punishes those people who dont obey him,let me ask you... where did all those rapist priets go when they were caught red handed? ive heard that they were just sent somewhere else to preach. if this is true, how the on earth god let them get away with this? if god is really watching and he punishes those who dont obey him? they're still out there having a good meal and assaulting young boys at night and they're still porkchops!
    that's sad but true..yep, some priests did rape..do a lot of horrible stuff, bad things happen,even to good people..
    abusive and corrupt people get away from what they did..but i hope it's not gonna be the basis of our faith.'cause that's why
    it's called faith 'cause we cannot see it..and it clearly shows that there's no perfect chuch, government, person and of course..this world is not perfect either..that's why as a Christian, i would put my hope on Jesus..that through Him i can go through with all life's hardships and craziness.'cause after all, those corrupt and mean people already have their reward...
    and God is just, justice may not be served in this lifetime but in faith, justice will surely be served in heareafter.i'm NOT saying that we should forget about our rights to appeal but if things does not turn out the way expected..there's always a higher authority, to hope for..and it is something divine and not really meant for full understanding until everything is revealed..but i would also want you to know that i am sharing this to you not to create a debate.just so you could also have another perspective on things..but whatever you believe in, you have my full respect.

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    Ang kaluwasan karon sa church age despensation kay libre pa kay grasya ug by faith, apan lahi unya ang kaluwasan inig abot sa 7yrs. tribulation period kay kay mura ka ug gigukod ug turong baka. Ang kaluwasan unya aside sa faith kay by works na, sama sa dili ka magpa marka ug 666, pagtuman sa kasuguan ni moises, etc. kay ang holy spirit dili pirmaninti mo dwell sa believer pariha na sa O.T. nga mawala wala. Ang kaluwasan unya kay thru endurance na pwering lisura. Tiaw mong dili ka kapalit sa department store ug dili ka kawithdraw sa atm kung walay markang 666. Hala ikaw pili...magpaluwas ka karon samtang libre pa ug walay bayad or maghuwat ka unya nga pwerti nang lisura. (One book (KJV) Rightly Divided)

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Who? The paralysed man? (as in the example)
    yes, as your example, the person that dont have the capacity to fulfill or do physical good works.

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    @kenshiro

    why defend the protestants when you have no knowledge of it? Its like defending someone ignorantly.
    unsay imo basis? assumption?

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    So ipagawas ng Bible Verse about Pwedi ang Graven Images beh..

    Ikaw napud pagawas sa imong Bible Verse.

    Aw.. to-od diay.. di man diay mo moto-o that Bible stands alone, to-o man diay mo Pope equal footing sa Bible.

    to-o pud mo ang traditions like graven images bisag wala or bawal sa Bible di gyapn bawal sa inyo..

    okay ra.. padayon lng luhod anang graven images.. inyoha pud na.. this is a free country.

    last time i check and title sa thread kay "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?" hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by garner View Post
    Ang kaluwasan karon sa church age despensation kay libre pa kay grasya ug by faith, apan lahi unya ang kaluwasan inig abot sa 7yrs. tribulation period kay kay mura ka ug gigukod ug turong baka. Ang kaluwasan unya aside sa faith kay by works na, sama sa dili ka magpa marka ug 666, pagtuman sa kasuguan ni moises, etc. kay ang holy spirit dili pirmaninti mo dwell sa believer pariha na sa O.T. nga mawala wala. Ang kaluwasan unya kay thru endurance na pwering lisura. Tiaw mong dili ka kapalit sa department store ug dili ka kawithdraw sa atm kung walay markang 666. Hala ikaw pili...magpaluwas ka karon samtang libre pa ug walay bayad or maghuwat ka unya nga pwerti nang lisura. (One book (KJV) Rightly Divided)
    Unsa diay nang kaluwasan Season season diay nah, murag Ponkan diay. Klaruha daw na imung gipang istorya by giving us some verse gikan sa imung KJV

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsa diay nang kaluwasan Season season diay nah, murag Ponkan diay. Klaruha daw na imung gipang istorya by giving us some verse gikan sa imung KJV
    murag naa na sa revelations 13 bro...pwede pud ug NIV nga version kay laglum kaau ang wordings sa KJV..

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