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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    ^^^ Ang Jehobas witness bible NAPAPAS ang bear record in heaven vs bear witness in earth!

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post

    (RS, NE, TEV, JB, NAB also leave out the Trinitarian passage.)
    Di pasabot wala sa uban libro wala gyd na sa original scripture.

    Pwedi ka mag himo ug 1 million ka bible translation and make them all different than the original translation.

    Only Christians/Catholics hold the true faith when it comes to the One Trinity Godhead.

    All others are PURE 100% Cults.

    Please uban taw diri ayaw mo padala sa ilad ana!

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    Di pasabot wala sa uban libro wala gyd na sa original scripture.

    Pwedi ka mag himo ug 1 million ka bible translation and make them all different than the original translation.

    Only Christians/Catholics hold the true faith when it comes to the One Trinity Godhead.

    All others are PURE 100% Cults.

    Please uban taw diri ayaw mo padala sa ilad ana!
    unsaon nko pagka hibalo nga di ka mangingilad sama nila?

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Mag debati mo anang Sola Fide sa Jehobas Witness nga Lahi mana ilang Gino-o..

    Useless debate nasa pag sugod pa lang daan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    unsaon nko pagka hibalo nga di ka mangingilad sama nila?
    Use the King James Version bro..

    Kung nahan ka ug Usa sa mga Rational:



    Obviously mo i attack dayon ni nila si Kent Hovind.. Sagdi na sila..

  6. #656

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    Mag debati mo anang Sola Fide sa Jehobas Witness nga Lahi mana ilang Gino-o..

    Useless debate nasa pag sugod pa lang daan.
    It's like asking a Hindu if they are Saved by faith alone of their pagan gods.

    Kinsa man ang Bakakon?

    The Savior God was crucified because he claims to be "The" Messiah Christ God. <- Jewish History

    Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. - 1 John 2:22

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    true basis of true faith is in the bible alone. not in any form of paganism. ang Diyos sa sinaunang israel ay nagsugo nga mulikay sa mga tudlo sa mga silingan nga mga nasod. which many of them are pagan (e.g. trinity). just like egyptian.

    once nasagulan ang imong faith ug mga pagan teaching then how can you tell that your faith is clean.

    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...g0Pgw2GxWulQRJ

    that is why Jehovah's Witnesses don't accept the trinity doctrine and since it wasn't even mentioned in the bible nor in the teaching of Jesus alone.

    John 17:6, 26

    [6]“I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
    [26]And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

    wala niya gipaila ang duha ka person and he did not teach that he is the equal as His Father.

    John 14:28

    RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

    Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

    (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

    even the apostle don't teach trinity:

    1 Cor. 11:3
    RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

    1 Cor. 15:27,*28
    RS: “‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”

    Matt. 20:20-23,
    RS: “The mother of the sons of Zebedee .*.*. said to him [Jesus], ‘Command that these two sons of mine may sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.’ But Jesus answered, .*.*. ‘You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.’” (How strange, if, as claimed, Jesus is God! Was Jesus here merely answering according to his “human nature”?

    If, as Trinitarians say, Jesus was truly “God-man”—both God and man, not one or the other—would it truly be consistent to resort to such an explanation? Does not Matthew 20:23 rather show that the Son is not equal to the Father, that the Father has reserved some prerogatives for himself?)



    Dili mahimo nga ang amahan ug anak parehas ra. dili kasugo ug magbuot ang amahan kung ang anak pareho ra niya. logic ra diba? dili sad ta kaingon magtudlo ug mga makalibog nga doktrina si Jesus. Kinahanglan naa strong nga basehan ang doktrina and sa bible ra jud. pirme raba sad siya mukuha ug mga bible quotes from Hebrew text like in the Book of Isaiah.

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    unsaon nko pagka hibalo nga di ka mangingilad sama nila?
    aron dili ka mailad you should read the Bible. we never force one person to accept our teaching. just like Jesus came here not for all man. but to those who are willing to accept and do what he did here on earth.

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    They always thought bro nga ang atong pagshare sa kamatuoran, gipugos na sila. Kitang tanan gihatagan man sa Ginoo ug saktong panghunahuna either tuohan nato iyang pulong or i reject, simple as that! Dili lang mag insulto kay wala baya ta magbinastos diri.

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    the Bible truth is like a refreshing water, clean water.

    trinity is not in the bible and if you accept that there is no trinity teaching in the bible you will be refreshed.

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