Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[Kenshiro]

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But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
James 1:22

[garner]

@defender_1611: sir ask unta ko kauban mo nila pastor derick ug geovanni sir or ruckmanites pud ka sir? Kay mao man raman gud ni grupoha dire visayas nga bible believer defender ako nabaw-an.

[defender_1611]

@defender_1611: sir ask unta ko kauban mo nila pastor derick ug geovanni sir or ruckmanites pud ka sir? Kay mao man raman gud ni grupoha dire visayas nga bible believer defender ako nabaw-an.

PM lang ko nimo bro....dili lang ta mag post ug mga names diri sa thread....

[omniknight]

TS:
If I may ask which country are you in now?
Or if you happen to be in the Philippines, proudly Asia's cradle and bastion of christianity where people (not just priests) mostly preached or counsel you about having faith, then look around and tell me what you see.

Hehehe, abi gyd nakog wala na ni nga thread, karon pa nako na check balik, buhi pa kaayo diay ni nga thread. Nice

Na ban na akong usa ka account diri.. Sayop nako na over ug post ug youtube videos.. hehehe

https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...-jesus-33.html

Anyways, tubagon lng gyapon ni nako..

Pinoy ko bro, obviously bisaya.. Nya if you "look around", tungod ra ni sa Fall of Man.

Sa wala pa kasala si Adam ug Eve - mao ni ang state sa taw as per St. Augustine

Two States of Man:

1. posse percarre - ability to sin
2. posse non pecarre - ability to not sin.

Karon because naka sala sila Adam ug Eve mao na ni atongstate:

Nawala na ang posse non pecarre na replace na ug:

non posse non pecarre - inability to not sin.

Meaning we are so sinful in nature that we can not expect a person without a single sin.

Mao daw na siya gi tawag ug "Moral Inabilty".

Doesn't mean na di nata maka conform sa law sa Gino-o, naa man pud accidentally keep the law or mixed motives.

Another difference is the Catholic believes in salvation through works, pareha ra na sa every other false religion sa kalibutan(mormons, muslims, ect)

Only Us Born Again Christians - We stand alone one what is right.

Sola Fide - Faith Alone! Sola Scriptura - Scriptures alone! Solus Christus - Christ Alone is the Only Way!

Sad to say Catholics DO NOT believe in the Solas stated above.. Sa mga Catholics nga wala kabalo, wake up!

TS:

Centuries later after the Spaniards came and gave us the "gift" of religion what happened? did it do us any good?
What became of the Philippines now? Are we better of than, even, any of our south east asian neighbors?

That's because the Spaniards brought us an "Almost" False Religion.

If we take a look at the Americans a hundred years back, they flourished because of the Truth.

[omniknight]

kay according pa sa Acts16:31(KJV) "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved" wala man muingon na pagtuo ug buhat para maluwas.....klaro kaayo ug tataw ang pagkasulti sa bibliya.

Salamat kaayo sa inyong contributions ani nga thread mga brothers in Christ. Siya na bahala nato.

Sakto gyd bro, sa pag sugod palang da-an ani nga thread, naa na ang explaination.

Ang uban ingon sila nga di daw ko dapat mo post diri ug in-ani.. Unsa kaha ilang gusto i post sa mga taw? Puro nlang Lady Gaga occult style, at least naman lang taga-an pud nila ug lugar bisag gamay lang kaayo ang sa Gino-o.

occult in your living room part 1 - Stephen Dollins - former satanist, ex witch - YouTube


To avert great earthquakes, devastating tsunamis, we must pray to God and try to please Him as much as we can.

We must Oppose the doctrines of Gay Marriage! NO Sodom and Gomorrah Here in the Philippines!

[Kenshiro]

James 2:10 (KJV)

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

for example imo ba kaha ron sundon ang 10 commandments ibutang nato nasunud nimo ang commandments 1 to 9 then inig abot nimo sa commandment 10 nasipyat ka....so useless or walay bili gihapon ang imo pag sunud sa 9 commandments kay na sipyat man ka sa commandment 10. mao na kinahanglan jud nato ang faith diha ni Jesus Christ kay ang taw dili capable na makaluwas sa iyang kaugalingon sa laktod na pagkasulti.

Yes only through faith in Christ we are saved.
No works or law can save. Why? Because only through Christ we can be forgiven of our transgressions.
Now the question is are we free to sin since we can be forgiven anyway?

The important aspect that is not mentioned here is repentance. If we know a thing is bad do we need to do it again? In the Bible Backsliding is described as a very repulsive and disgusting act to God.

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Proverbs 26:11

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:22

We are to keep the moral law since sin is the transgression of the law if we transgress the moral law we sin, once we are saved we should not be as sinners again like a dog eating its own vomit.

Genuine Repentance, and confession is even required prior to attaining forgiveness. one cannot attain forgiveness if someone does not repent.

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Acts 3:19

[omniknight]

^^^ Amen..

Genesis = Creation

Gene <- Genesis

For us to Be reGenesis, we need to believe in the New Adam which is Christ.

Born Again <- New Creature

reGENEration <- reGenesis <- reCreate <- New Creature.

Moses was a Born Again Christian(regeneration), so as Noah, prophets, ect.

Proof?

John 3:3
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

Jesus tells Nicodemus:

You should "NOT BE" surprised at my saying, You must be born again.

You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and "DO YOU NOT" understand these things?

...but "STILL" you people do not accept our testimony.

Note: The Doctrine of Regeneration was the doctrine of repentance and belief of the Messiah in the Old Testament, just like in the New Testament.

[defender_1611]

Yes only through faith in Christ we are saved.
No works or law can save. Why? Because only through Christ we can be forgiven of our transgressions.
Now the question is are we free to sin since we can be forgiven anyway?

The important aspect that is not mentioned here is repentance. If we know a thing is bad do we need to do it again? In the Bible Backsliding is described as a very repulsive and disgusting act to God.

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Proverbs 26:11

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:22

We are to keep the moral law since sin is the transgression of the law if we transgress the moral law we sin, once we are saved we should not be as sinners again like a dog eating its own vomit.

Genuine Repentance, and confession is even required prior to attaining forgiveness. one cannot attain forgiveness if someone does not repent.

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Acts 3:19

mao bitaw bro isip luwas nga taw dili nato gamiton ang liberty na gihatag sa Ginoo sa atoa para magpakasala....kung di ato ipakita ang atong pagka Kristohanon through good works nato....ingon pa sa

Matthew 5:16 (KJV) "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

mao nga dili pasabot nga abig luwas nata magpakasala nalang ta kay tungod naa natay kagawasan.....

Galatians 5:13 (KJV)

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not LIBERTY for an occasion TO the flesh, but by love serve one another."

[wormwoods]

Ang kaluwasan gikan the bondage of Sin mao ang butang nga wala masabti sa mga unbelievers. Magkatawa sila coz ilang pagsabot kay wala pa mamatay ang taw unsaon pagkaluwas daw.

[SioDenz]

mao bitaw bro isip luwas nga taw dili nato gamiton ang liberty na gihatag sa Ginoo sa atoa para magpakasala....kung di ato ipakita ang atong pagka Kristohanon through good works nato....ingon pa sa

Matthew 5:16 (KJV) "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

mao nga dili pasabot nga abig luwas nata magpakasala nalang ta kay tungod naa natay kagawasan.....

Galatians 5:13 (KJV)

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not LIBERTY for an occasion TO the flesh, but by love serve one another."

Unya kay tanang tawo nakasala ug makasala man jud - bisag Nituoo paka sa Ginoo makasala man ghapon kay kay wa may tawo nga way sala. So if ang Requirements FAITH + GOOD WORKS, nya nakasala man ka, Hagbong ka sa Good works nga requirement? unsaon pagkaluwas nimu ana nga ang isa ka requirements naka lapas man ka? - paki explain daw.