K12 Educational system

[PaYaSo]

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ninodt ni imu idea bro. kng asa affordable and naay quality adto ta

[Metz]

deregulate education... i believe the more systems of education available for the public, the more we will produce quality graduates... Schools will be competing for quality education at the most affordable rates, otherwise, they will lose enrollees. With the things have been, there is usually one kind of system for the public education to follow and if that system would be found out to be incompetent, incompetent graduates have already been produced...

elaborate daw bro.
give an action plan on how you think the govt can do it.

[Metz]

ninodt ni imu idea bro. kng asa affordable and naay quality adto ta

sorry bai but murag di jud na mahitabo.
if ever mahitabo man, gamay ra kaayo ma accomodate ana.

quality education requires small number of students per teacher, equipment and facility.
even 1st world countries are having difficulties implimenting it. kay kung mabuhat pana sa ila gov't, super expensive private schools wont exist.

we are a 3rd world country with super high birth rates. so di jud kaapas ang DepEd.
naa pay corruption....

[emow]

^ an educational voucher for each student... public schools will no longer be subsidized, instead they need to attract enrollees through their quality education.. public schools will then have an autonomy on the way they improve their education and not depend on bureaucracies... The lesser they have to deal with politicians, the more they can spend time educating. The poor are still guaranteed a "free" education, but they can now opt for the school they feel is right for them. They can even opt for cheaper private education, but they have to settle the difference between the voucher's value and the cost of the tuition of that school. It's not perfect but it creates an environment of competition in public schools. Teachers will need to prove their worth before asking for raise. Dep ed will be relieve from having to deal with constant clamor for wage increase because public teachers are now playing the same game as private teachers, prove your worth then ask for a raise.

[Metz]

as for K-12. partly fault pud na sa gobyerno kay dugay nata gi require sa ubang countries nga mo follow ana.
and as usual, hilig man ug cramming, dinha pa mag impliment sa final hour na.

pde man ta dili mag k-12 ang kapait lang kay tanan graduates sa college nato di na i-recognize sa countries nga apil sa treaty.

[emow]

public schools who fail to deliver quality education will be clearly indentified by parents themselves and they will punish those schools by not enrolling their children there. That public school will have to improve or be forced to be "overhauled", expelling the management and failure teachers... Subsidy will be in the hands of the number of enrollees and not for the sake of being a public school.

[Metz]

^ an educational voucher for each student... public schools will no longer be subsidized, instead they need to attract enrollees through their quality education.. public schools will then have an autonomy on the way they improve their education and not depend on bureaucracies... The lesser they have to deal with politicians, the more they can spend time educating. The poor are still guaranteed a "free" education, but they can now opt for the school they feel is right for them. They can even opt for cheaper private education, but they have to settle the difference between the voucher's value and the cost of the tuition of that school. It's not perfect but it creates an environment of competition in public schools. Teachers will need to prove their worth before asking for raise. Dep ed will be relieve from having to deal with constant clamor for wage increase because public teachers are now playing the same game as private teachers, prove your worth then ask for a raise.

an educational voucher for each student...- this is already implimented in elementary and HS and I think naa sad sa college. But dili tanan naa kay di madala sa budget.

public schools will no longer be subsidized, instead they need to attract enrollees through their quality education.. public schools will then have an autonomy on the way they improve their education and not depend on bureaucracies...- how will they fund themselves, even UP is having issues funding itself

They can even opt for cheaper private education, but they have to settle the difference between the voucher's value and the cost of the tuition of that school. - this is also being implimented to help reduce public school population, but lisod gihapon kay maglisod gihapon ug bayad sa difference ang kasagaran.
Daghan qualified ani but di gihapon mo enroll, or luoy kaayo ang parents sa pag apas sa tuition.

Teachers will need to prove their worth before asking for raise. Dep ed will be relieve from having to deal with constant clamor for wage increase because public teachers are now playing the same game as private teachers, prove your worth then ask for a raise.
-this is good, but if ila ni buhaton wa nay public school teacher. The ratio of public school teacher to students is around 1:50 or even worse. Wa tingaliy mosukol ana nga conditions kung dili duol 20k per month ila sweldo.

new Private school teachers earn around 5k to 6k/month while new public school teachers around 20k.
maglisod sad tawon ang private schools ug keep sa teachers.

I think even big universities will have problems offering around 15k for new teachers. murag tenured na kaayo ang teacher before cya motungtung ug 20k.


and lastly, since you want public school students to pay....most likely dili na congested ang schools next school year.
kay wala nay ka-afford.

or if barato kaayo ang tuition... wa nay school
di lalim ang operating expenses sa usa ka school.

[emow]

I am against any kind of subsidy but since education is a very sensitive idea, which most people hold very dear and treat it as a right, the voucher system is a much more lesser evil than the current system of subsidized public schools... The reason we have so many shortages is because of the politics involved. Every aspect of the system is planned primarily by politicians. The reason why private schools are way much better than public schools is because they deal far lesser politics. All decisions are immediate and budgetting can be be followed to a tee. The public schools always pray that they have enough. Competition is deficient in public schools, regardless of how they teach, as long as they don't earn the ire of the politics involved in the education, failure teachers can keep on teaching regardless of the result. If schools lack the incentive to strive better, they will opt to stay as what is allowable by politics.

[emow]

an educational voucher for each student...- this is already implimented in elementary and HS and I think naa sad sa college. But dili tanan naa kay di madala sa budget.

public schools will no longer be subsidized, instead they need to attract enrollees through their quality education.. public schools will then have an autonomy on the way they improve their education and not depend on bureaucracies...- how will they fund themselves, even UP is having issues funding itself

They can even opt for cheaper private education, but they have to settle the difference between the voucher's value and the cost of the tuition of that school. - this is also being implimented to help reduce public school population, but lisod gihapon kay maglisod gihapon ug bayad sa difference ang kasagaran.
Daghan qualified ani but di gihapon mo enroll, or luoy kaayo ang parents sa pag apas sa tuition.

Teachers will need to prove their worth before asking for raise. Dep ed will be relieve from having to deal with constant clamor for wage increase because public teachers are now playing the same game as private teachers, prove your worth then ask for a raise.
-this is good, but if ila ni buhaton wa nay public school teacher. The ratio of public school teacher to students is around 1:50 or even worse.

and lastly, since you want public school students to pay....most likely dili na congested ang schools next school year.
kay wala nay ka-afford.

or if barato kaayo ang tuition... wa nay school
di lalim ang operating expenses sa usa ka school.

1. Funding comes from vouchers...each voucher has an exact redeemable amount in educational institutions only.
2.If they could not afford the gap, then they have to weigh that decision by themselves if it is worth risking everything or not... they have that power to choose. That by itself promotes responsibility of how to choose and maintain the education of their children.
3.On the contrary, there will be more teachers who will apply in this kind of system. If they see that by working hard, they will be compensated justly for the amount of effort they give, then many hardworking and dedicated teachers will apply. The differentiation between private and public teacher will be minimal.
4. Education is itself an investment. An investment is something one has to pay or to risk something before he can achieve the desired results. Yes, students still pay for their own food, things, in excess of the amount of the voucher given to them... But the beauty of this is that public schools can be flexible in how to accomodate students, they have to earn their income through really serving the needs of the students.

[emow]

UP is having difficulty in funding maybe because:
1. Not all students who enjoy free tuition are poor. Many are average and some are even rich.
2. Some students are changing from one course to another at the expense of tax payers.
3. it is subsidized, it has to limit itself into how much is afforded to them. sucking to politicians they should. (hahahah...yoda)
4. Any non-profit organization will always have financial problems.