Congress proposal - REQUIRE all parents to plant a tree for each child born to them

[reptoid]

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Being a father entails more than just squirting your seed..... and being a citizen entails more than simply waking up each morning. I find this a worthy cause and a great opportunity to mobilize the nation. Yes it's simplistic and ritualistic, but it's also practical and inspiring. So long as the areas planted can be used for recreational purposes and all trees are properly tagged this could be our legacy for future generations to enjoy.

Filipinos are so fond of paying money for memorial lots and mausoleums.... isn't it about time we started honoring the living?

[high_heels]

ang akong na notice diri bah, those who are sooo negative about this bill mostly focuses on the idea that it is the governments responsibility to take care of the environment. keysho naay schools, private firms, NGOs who are currently doing tree planting and other environmental acts ihatag nalang nila ang full responsibility??

My gaaaad!!!! Where is awareness and responsibility as citizen in our country come in this picture? Porke naa moy nakit-an nga opportunity nga pwede i kurakot sa government inyo na dayon sakyan. Unsa may naka bati if we participate? Ma wad-an mo ug usa ka oras sa inyong precious time? mahugawan inyong kamot inig tanom kay bag o mo nagpa pedicure?

If this law will be implemented Im sure naa gyud nay procedure on how this is done para naay consistency. Syaro naman sad tanan nalang gyud ihansak ninyo sa gobyerno para ma trabaho tanang problema sa pilipinas?

In the first place, atoa baya nang tugkaran atong gi hisgutan...mapa taga carcar mo, syudad or asang espidnuha mo sa kalibutan and yuta nga inyong gipang puy-an ron inyong responsibility.

Kung mag baha bitaw, ari nasad i hapak sa gobyerno kay walay saktong drainage, or walay proper waste management, ug maski unsa nalang rason atong ihapak sa gobyerno. Kung atoa lang ning buhaton no, ari ra baya gihapon ni mabalik nato. Ang atoang efforts kung di man gani ta maka panamastamas ani, at least our kids and our grandchildren will benefit from it.

manganak man lang gani mo, therefore you secure a good future for your children...isn't this part of securing a good future for your kids sige beh, huna hunaa daw ug lawom!

[machinecult]

ang akong na notice diri bah, those who are sooo negative about this bill mostly focuses on the idea that it is the governments responsibility to take care of the environment. keysho naay schools, private firms, NGOs who are currently doing tree planting and other environmental acts ihatag nalang nila ang full responsibility??

My gaaaad!!!! Where is awareness and responsibility as citizen in our country come in this picture? Porke naa moy nakit-an nga opportunity nga pwede i kurakot sa government inyo na dayon sakyan. Unsa may naka bati if we participate? Ma wad-an mo ug usa ka oras sa inyong precious time? mahugawan inyong kamot inig tanom kay bag o mo nagpa pedicure?

If this law will be implemented Im sure naa gyud nay procedure on how this is done para naay consistency. Syaro naman sad tanan nalang gyud ihansak ninyo sa gobyerno para ma trabaho tanang problema sa pilipinas?

In the first place, atoa baya nang tugkaran atong gi hisgutan...mapa taga carcar mo, syudad or asang espidnuha mo sa kalibutan and yuta nga inyong gipang puy-an ron inyong responsibility.

Kung mag baha bitaw, ari nasad i hapak sa gobyerno kay walay saktong drainage, or walay proper waste management, ug maski unsa nalang rason atong ihapak sa gobyerno. Kung atoa lang ning buhaton no, ari ra baya gihapon ni mabalik nato. Ang atoang efforts kung di man gani ta maka panamastamas ani, at least our kids and our grandchildren will benefit from it.

manganak man lang gani mo, therefore you secure a good future for your children...isn't this part of securing a good future for your kids sige beh, huna hunaa daw ug lawom!

You make it sound like those who voted against this bill does not value nature. Environmentalism is a good cause no question about that. Pushing people to do this and penalizing them to a point they could end up in prison by natural act of bearing a child is ABSOLUTELY NOT. Which is why I called this Eco-Fascism. Look it up.

Pushing people and penalizing them is NOT awareness and responsibility at all. Responsibility is doing without being told, controlled, or intimidated. Besides if you really care for the environment would you really wait for the government to tell you to plant trees, don't litter, don't shoot the birds, etc.?

Don't be fooled by sweet words and noble-sounding causes they try to wrap their incompetence with. "To prevent floods" PLEASE. We shouldn't even be allowing the state to dictate with what we do in homes. They have no right to do that.

What they should do is use taxpayers money to improve drainages and waste management. Dili nila bulsahon. Unya kita muy e penalize kay wa ta mananum ug kahoy!

[high_heels]

You make it sound like those who voted against this bill does not value nature. Environmentalism is a good cause no question about that. Pushing people to do this and penalizing them to a point they could end up in prison by natural act of bearing a child is ABSOLUTELY NOT. Which is why I called this Eco-Fascism. Look it up.

Pushing people and penalizing them is NOT awareness and responsibility at all. Responsibility is doing without being told, controlled, or intimidated. Besides if you really care for the environment would you really wait for the government to tell you to plant trees, don't litter, don't shoot the birds, etc.?

Don't be fooled by sweet words and noble-sounding causes they try to wrap their incompetence with. "To prevent floods" PLEASE. We shouldn't even be allowing the state to dictate with what we do in homes. They have no right to do that.

What they should do is use taxpayers money to improve drainages and waste management. Dili nila bulsahon. Unya kita muy e penalize kay wa ta mananum ug kahoy!

WOW!!! you seem to be on a high horse. For the record, I do not wait for my government to act on these things. I segregate my trash, i dont liter, i have environmental responsibilities and I do it! My children takes part in what I do because I educate them on these matters.

You definitely have a warp sense of logic here. Well, wake up and smell the coffee....point to me the number of filipinos who actually acts on their responsibilities here? If you are so concerned about your tax money going inside the pockets of politicians then dont bother paying taxes in the first place. As what I said, people here shove the issues to the government...kesyo, nag bayad mo ug buwis that stops your obligation na? Oh my God!!!! No wonder we are still a third world country!!!!

The truth is, your taxes is not the only solution to resolve environmental concerns. The ways to start resolving it is for people to actually get themselves involve in these causes. Simple sample scenario here is littering, do you see everyone doing their part on this? Do you think everyone in society will do as what they are asked to do?Diba not all, why? because they lack the discipline. Therefore, this bill is created to DISCIPLINE us who doesn't give a shit about our environment. The objective of this law is not to imprison parents, it is to establish responsibility and the gesture of returning back our used natural resources to mother earth.

and your reason nga the government is meddling with our very own domestic affairs? By what? Asking a parent to plant a tree for their children? How the hell does that affect you personally? Or should I say, how does that negatively affects your family?

you even line up and go through exams for a drivers license. kani pa ba nga kinabuhi sa imong anak ang naka pilit?and the way you point it out is this is entirely a useless bill kay its a way of intimidating filipinos? Hala oi pagmata daw!!!!

If you look at the poll of this thread, majority agrees to the bill because they see more of the benefits compared to your line of reasoning that its a useless cause.

[diatabz]

Has it occurred to you that environmentalists and/or organizations may have LOBBIED/BRIBED politicians to come up with such proposals that support their agenda?

There's nothing wrong with lobbying for the environment--it's not even well represented in this country. The problem is when politicians twist the message of environmentalism and find a way to make money off of it, which is what this bill shows.

If politicians really cared about the environment, they'd do something to regulate mining. They'd do something about Halcon and why it's closed to the public when in reality, there is illegal logging happening there as we speak. They'd do something about poaching. I could go on and on.

[diatabz]

Unfortunately most people don't even have enough self-discipline to put their trash in a waste bin so expecting active participation from the majority of citizens over tree planting is not likely. Consider this...do you think people would take a test and obtain a driving license if it wasn't mandatory? Do you think they would do that voluntarily because it's a good idea? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't and I have observed that as far as progress is concerned most people need to be pointed in the right direction and told exactly what needs doing. Motivated, free-thinking responsible individuals are in short supply.

I'm all for the government passing more environment-conscious legislation, but this is not the way to do it. Moreover, we already have existing laws and initiatives that revolve around aggressive reforestation. Government must enforce these programs, not pass on another burden to taxpayers that they will only resent.

The way I see it, such penalties on rearing children are a hair away from one-child-a-family policies.

[DailyCore]

There's nothing wrong with lobbying for the environment--it's not even well represented in this country. The problem is when politicians twist the message of environmentalism and find a way to make money off of it, which is what this bill shows.

If politicians really cared about the environment, they'd do something to regulate mining. They'd do something about Halcon and why it's closed to the public when in reality, there is illegal logging happening there as we speak. They'd do something about poaching. I could go on and on.

What about environmentalists bribing our officials? That's not too far-fetched.

[DailyCore]

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[machinecult]

You definitely have a warp sense of logic here. Well, wake up and smell the coffee....point to me the number of filipinos who actually acts on their responsibilities here? If you are so concerned about your tax money going inside the pockets of politicians then dont bother paying taxes in the first place. As what I said, people here shove the issues to the government...kesyo, nag bayad mo ug buwis that stops your obligation na? Oh my God!!!! No wonder we are still a third world country!!!!

The truth is, your taxes is not the only solution to resolve environmental concerns. The ways to start resolving it is for people to actually get themselves involve in these causes. Simple sample scenario here is littering, do you see everyone doing their part on this? Do you think everyone in society will do as what they are asked to do?Diba not all, why? because they lack the discipline. Therefore, this bill is created to DISCIPLINE us who doesn't give a shit about our environment. The objective of this law is not to imprison parents, it is to establish responsibility and the gesture of returning back our used natural resources to mother earth.

Yes we are in a Third World country because people are gullible enough to jump on a bandwagon with attractive logos attached to it like "Environmentalism". First World countries didn't become what they are just by squatting in circles singing songs in the campfire and hugging trees, dancing in the forests. Which is what I think your sympathies lie by addressing planet Earth "MOTHER". You probably cried when the tree collapsed in the Avatar movie.

Anyway. Paying taxes promote civic improvement. Unfortunately we have a corrupt government creating laws like these instead of using our tax to spend on better sewage systems, stricter waste management. They spend less while we pay more.

Sorry, but we're not seeing this on the same level. Mainly because I don't want a government that extends its power to further "discipline" its people in behalf of a 'Mother Earth' concept. That is not how I remember Republicanism and Democracy.

"and your reason nga the government is meddling with our very own domestic affairs? By what? Asking a parent to plant a tree for their children? How the hell does that affect you personally? Or should I say, how does that negatively affects your family?"

The government is not asking. Its commanding, and failure to comply is punishable by this new law. Its an attack on family, individualism wrapped around noble-sounding causes like environmentalism. It does not affect me personally as of now because I don't have children but that does not make any difference at all. Its not only a useless bill but a dangerous bill to any one's future if they value personal liberties and freedoms.

you even line up and go through exams for a drivers license. kani pa ba nga kinabuhi sa imong anak ang naka pilit?and the way you point it out is this is entirely a useless bill kay its a way of intimidating filipinos? Hala oi pagmata daw!!!!

If you value your children. Don't let them live in a Nanny-State wherein the government control their lives even their way of thinking. Family, not the state, should teach them about responsibility and develop their common sense to identify right and wrong despite what corrupt-prone government says so.

If you look at the poll of this thread, majority agrees to the bill because they see more of the benefits compared to your line of reasoning that its a useless cause.

That's all right. Popular vote is not always the right vote.

[tormentor_jack]

agree kaayo ko ani oy.