MERGED: All About the Corona Impeachment

[estor_boot]

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ang akong masulti nimo dong pro-aquino ka.maayo ka dong kay lami imo sud-an,ganador pa gyud ang bugas mineral water pa gyud kaligo.ang uban nato igsoon pilipino walay sud-an.one day one eat

among gikaon pareha ra man gihapon sa panahon pang Erap, niagi si gloria nitubo kunong ekonomiya ug 8.9% mao ra ghapon among gikaon pagpuli ni PNoy ang tubo sa ekonomiya 3% na lang, mao ra man gihapon among gikaon.

amo mang gud gihagoan among gikaon, ikaw bai gobyerno nagpakaon nimo?

[estor_boot]

OT - About the Marcos ill gotten wealth, it was not really proven but if you sum it up based from facts, most of the Wealth of the Philippines that time was mostly donated because of the charisma and power of the Mr. and Mrs. Ferdinand Marcos, and even some of their wealth are gotten from other countries as gifts so it is not also a reason to point out that they have stolen a lot of wealth in the Philippines which in fact that before Marcos was the President, Philippines was not even rich... Malacañang had portraits and shoes that was expensive and those portraits and shoes are gifts from other countries too yet who destroyed and stole those things? it is the Filipino people who ransacked the Palace... Only Marcos reign which Philippines experienced the Golden Age where Military Power and sovereignty was unmatched in Asia and due to this Power, many Marcos opposition and cronies wanted to grasp these power which resulted to a Martial Law... so it is not a denial that F. Marcos existence that he's one of the Great Leaders who greatly made the Philippines heard all over the world... But tragic happens all the time so be it...

As far as Brenda is concerned, if you could atleast survive having a battle of wits with her, you can judge her the way she judge her colleagues, it is also the reason why nobody tried to impeach her or whatsoever is because of her intellectual power, i'm not a fan of her or even charmed by her speeches but it is also obvious how those other senator judges make alibis just to cover up their agendas... Even JPE accepted in an interview that the walk out affected his decision, so i guess Miriam has a point that the bases of judgment are not all facts but mixed with emotions and ego...

And as for Corona, JPE stated it all, only the SALN which he didn't filed correctly was wrong, there was no ill gotten wealth involved in his case, i believe that the prosecution was planning to exposed ill gotten wealth in the first place which obviously we had seen on media exposure that they're claiming Corona had these properties but failed after Corona waived his right, which Chiz Escudero questioned the prosecution team after they didn't cross examined him... i also believe that Corona just wanted to clarify that he didn't steal any from the Government... but what can we believed now that even an Ombudsman accept tampered and illegal documents? anyway, this is now the 2nd Chapter of the Story, after 1 year when CJ Corona was expelled and convicted, what could be the changes of Juan De La Cruz Country in Pnoy Term? Does he still uses the same word that it was all Gloria's fault or will he make a new trending phrase? May it be positive or negative, we are not blind...

Ignorance is a not a bliss all the time...

diha ra ko kutob basa sa gi bold.
nakapanguros kog ahat. read SC decisions ondo. basa pilay gi utang ni marcos ondo. or else stick to playing games na lang.

Ignorance is a not a bliss all the time...

it fits for you and those who liked your post.

[reptoid]

OT - About the Marcos ill gotten wealth, it was not really proven but if you sum it up based from facts, most of the Wealth of the Philippines that time was mostly donated because of the charisma and power of the Mr. and Mrs. Ferdinand Marcos...

Lol.... $5 Billion of foreign aid and development loans are to be considered personal gifts for being charismatic? That's funny because the countries who provided aid seem to think the money was misappropriated. There is a reason why Marcos name is synonymous with ill-gotten wealth, they did it to themselves and stigmatized the entire nation in the process.

[PagkahomotSAimongUTOToi]

reason ni imelda kay ang yamashita treasure natadan sa iyang bana. anyway, nalingaw lng ko ninyo naabot mo sa marcos. haha

[Calibrator]

^lol.. daghan man gud ug nagpa-aron ingnon na kahibalo sila sa mga kaagi sa panahon sa Marcoses...

Anyways, i think it's better to open a new thread about the "sins of the marcoses" instead of discussing it in here. At least, maliwanagan ug mahatagan ug ideas ang mga members diri na wala pa mahimugso niadtong panahona.

[voldemort]

^lol.. daghan man gud ug nagpa-aron ingnon na kahibalo sila sa mga kaagi sa panahon sa Marcoses...

Anyways, i think it's better to open a new thread about the "sins of the marcoses" instead of discussing it in here. At least, maliwanagan ug mahatagan ug ideas ang mga members diri na wala pa mahimugso niadtong panahona.

Bitaw. Pareha nako wala pa ko natawo ato nga time ni Marcos mao dili ko pataka ug yawit bahin sa iyang era.

[john_24]

The Philippine Senate has voted to convict Chief Justice Corona. The pro-conviction forces will trump this as a triumph of justice. I beg to disagree with the Philippine Senate and how it has conducted itself throughout the highly flawed process. This day will be remembered as the day justice died in the Philippines. What does this imply for the Philippines? It means more of the same s**t- for the next four years. Filipinos asked for it - they got it. Ride the tiger and end up in its belly.

[reptoid]

Lie on your SALN and face the consequences.... no matter how untouchable you consider yourself.

[voldemort]

A pyrrhic victory for Aquino

By: Rigoberto Tiglao

Chief Justice Renato Corona’s removal from office is indubitably President Aquino’s clear victory. But it is a pyrrhic one: its costs to him and his clan, and the damage to our institutions are so enormous, that history will show that it isn’t worth it.

For Mr. Aquino’s Cojuangco clan, Corona’s ouster came too late. Corona didn’t resign, as he was expected to do, as Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez did soon after her impeachment was initiated.

The trial unexpectedly lasted for five months, giving the Corona-led Supreme Court enough time to rule with finality—only last month—that the Cojuangcos’ Hacienda Luisita must be put under a real land reform program, which would result in the bankruptcy of the President’s clan. The close voting in that final resolution demonstrated that if Corona had resigned—and with the appointment of a new Aquino justice and the rest effectively terrorized—the Court’s earlier decision in July and November 2011 for a P196-million land compensation would have been revised, for a P10-billion payment the Cojuangcos wanted.

Corona’s ouster should put the hacienda’s farmers on alert: Will a “new” Supreme Court find a loophole to reverse its decisions on Hacienda Luisita?

Whatever happens, Corona will be remembered not as the chief justice who was ousted from office because of his inaccurate “SALN,” but as the chief justice who got screwed because he went against the President’s clan in order to implement genuine land reform.

For this, Corona endured five months of ruthless vilification. To browbeat him to resign, Mr. Aquino mobilized the entire apparatus of government, aided by mainstream media duped to slavishly support his agenda, to demonize him as a corrupt, immoral magistrate who enriched himself in the Supreme Court. Set aside, as it didn’t quite rouse the mob, was Mr. Aquino’s initial purported reason why he wanted Corona out: The Chief Justice was purportedly the protector in the high court of former President Gloria Arroyo—an ignorant accusation as the tribunal is a collegial body.

Quite ironically, Aquino’s victory over Corona has put him in a very serious quandary since it was purportedly due to a great extent to the law firm senior associate justice Antonio Carpio founded, which allegedly provided the brains, the network, and the resources to remove Corona.

Furthermore, when the case against Corona was collapsing, and Mr. Aquino became disheartened after the Court issued the final ruling last month on Hacienda Luisita, the fatal blow was made two weeks ago by Carpio’s cousin, Ombudsman Conchita Carpio Morales who claimed that the Chief Justice had $12 million in dollar accounts. While that was a colossal canard, Corona fell into the trap of debunking it by claiming he had only $2.4 million—which gave 20 senators the easy, technical justification to convict him.

Carpio, is therefore absolutely certain that Mr. Aquino will appoint him chief justice. However, Mr. Aquino’s inner circle has told him that he should appoint instead somebody who he would be totally sure will toe his line—and that’s definitely not Carpio. Several senators who voted for Corona’s conviction also informed him in very strong terms, before decision day, that they want him to appoint “anybody but Carpio.”

An article in The Philippine Star, managed by House Speaker Feliciano Belmonte’s sons, is a Palace leak: “Justice Antonio Carpio might not be named chief justice because he does not seem to enjoy the trust and confidence of the other justices in the tribunal, sources hinted.” The article claimed that Mr. Aquino would instead appoint Liberal Party leader, his de facto political mentor, Sen. Franklin Drilon. While he has remarkably kept it secret especially during the trial, Drilon, who has been senator for nearly two decades, wants to top off his career by becoming chief justice, all lawyers’ cherished dream. Aged 66, this is his last chance—as it is for Carpio—to be chief justice.

If he doesn’t appoint Carpio though, Aquino would create an enemy far more powerful than Corona such that he would regret ever removing the latter.

In his purported crusade against corruption by removing Corona, Mr. Aquino corrupted—using that term’s meaning of debasing an entity’s integrity—the state’s institutions among them, the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the Land Registration Authority, the Anti-Money Laundering Council, the Commission on Audit and, most alarmingly, the Ombudsman. History has also shown that a mainstream media submissive to a president’s agenda is one of the greatest threats to a democracy.

Corona’s conviction sets a very dangerous precedent for our republican system: A President can mobilize the entire apparatus of government and break laws and, supported by media, go after his perceived enemy—even the highest official of the judiciary—with a Congress terrified of opinion polls as his accomplice.

A senator theatrically and quite naively claimed that Corona’s conviction creates a new paradigm for transparency in public office. Seriously, do you think bureaucrats would now start filing accurate SALNs when the televised trial has educated them that bank accounts can be opened only by court order or in an impeachment trial, which applies to only 31 high officials?

Do you really expect this new era to dawn when the highest official of the land, Mr. Aquino, ignored Corona and two senators’ challenge for him and his Cabinet to issue waivers on the secrecy of their bank accounts?

Do you honestly believe that grafters will change their evil ways now, knowing that Corona was ousted not because of corruption but because of an elite clan’s greed, and because of the ambition of two powerful people to be chief justice?

A pyrrhic victory for Aquino | Inquirer Opinion

[PaYaSo]

The Philippine Senate has voted to convict Chief Justice Corona. The pro-conviction forces will trump this as a triumph of justice. I beg to disagree with the Philippine Senate and how it has conducted itself throughout the highly flawed process. This day will be remembered as the day justice died in the Philippines. What does this imply for the Philippines? It means more of the same s**t- for the next four years. Filipinos asked for it - they got it. Ride the tiger and end up in its belly.

i'll vote for you if you run on the senate. you know better than most of the senators.