MERGED: All About the Corona Impeachment

[antipolitikz]

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@antipolitikz - the Rabe v Flores case went all the way up to SC.

thanks for the confirmation, but i think the case was different since it was all about double compensation and not totally for a SALN issue...

[ilovedogs]

let's break it down..

what i hate most about this impeachment is that they made a mockery of our constitution, trampling it, disregard it as long as it gets them the result they want. how they used all illegal and malicious tactics to besmirch the person's credibility.

and my example on the property, i did stress that the money was not hers but she took it ILLEGALLY and placed it under her account.

corona already said that he did not declare because of the foreign currency act. also, he should have been given the chance to rectify it as it's allowed but they made a big deal out of it. for me, they already had in mind what to vote, what they were not sure is which one of the articles of the impeachment they'll justify it with. and among the articles, the misdeclaration of SALN was the WORST. mao rana? just for that when it should have been acceptable to just correct it? that was even mentioned by JPE, i think, sometime in the early part of the impeachment trial that's it's totally okay to make mistakes but if they find something not consistent, they can just correct it. but now, mao dayon ilang gigamit as basis for their vote. so for me, some of the senator judges already had a vote in mind, they were just looking which of the articles to stick it on.

[J.Abz]

nag impromptu si Miriam kay ang iya nahibaw.an, 2mins raman. nya pag start karon kay ingon man Enrile nga unlimited diay.. abi jud nako tibouk hapon to siya mag yawyaw!

ok ra to ang speech ni miriam bai.. ang speech ni enrile maoy murag taas taas jud.. mao toy murag 'unlimited' unya makabantay ko sa mga tao sa courtroom (while he is giving the speech), nag hinay2x nag katulog.. ang uban nag text2x nalang..

[Joseph20102011]

VP Binay: Target of Corona trial | Inquirer Opinion

how true is this?

Klaro man kaayo na si Jejomar Binay ang sunod na ma-kickout.

[antipolitikz]

what i hate most about this impeachment is that they made a mockery of our constitution, trampling it, disregard it as long as it gets them the result they want. how they used all illegal and malicious tactics to besmirch the person's credibility.

and my example on the property, i did stress that the money was not hers but she took it ILLEGALLY and placed it under her account.

corona already said that he did not declare because of the foreign currency act. also, he should have been given the chance to rectify it as it's allowed but they made a big deal out of it. for me, they already had in mind what to vote, what they were not sure is which one of the articles of the impeachment they'll justify it with. and among the articles, the misdeclaration of SALN was the WORST. mao rana? just for that when it should have been acceptable to just correct it? that was even mentioned by JPE, i think, sometime in the early part of the impeachment trial that's it's totally okay to make mistakes but if they find something not consistent, they can just correct it. but now, mao dayon ilang gigamit as basis for their vote. so for me, some of the senator judges already had a vote in mind, they were just looking which of the articles to stick it on.

it really dazzled me for a moment and to think and question that our Constitution amended on 1987 has flaws...

[rockrhyan1982]

i think Pnoy is now comfortable after corona's conviction,take a break to play diablo III.

[ilovedogs]

may nlng naay ikapanghambog si Pnoy, "in my term as president, i made it possible to oust a CJ. Beat that!"
pro hopefully, naa untay improvement ang pinas as a whole. kng purging ang gusto sa pilipino, dapat puro bago ang ibotar sunod, ayw nanang mga dugay na naa sa politics kay mga season na kaayo na sila, season sa kurakot ug pagkabalimbing.

[antipolitikz]

may nlng naay ikapanghambog si Pnoy, "in my term as president, i made it possible to oust a CJ. Beat that!"
pro hopefully, naa untay improvement ang pinas as a whole. kng purging ang gusto sa pilipino, dapat puro bago ang ibotar sunod, ayw nanang mga dugay na naa sa politics kay mga season na kaayo na sila, season sa kurakot ug pagkabalimbing.

you hit the jackpot... Unta ang PCOS machine di na sad i-tamper ang program...

unta gi-una nalang nila ang pagluwas sa ilang mga kalag kay hapit na raba ang end of the world, kaysa giluwas nila ang election campaign... LOL!
may man dali dalion ra nila ug sulti ang integrity, kabalo ba jud kaha sila sa essence sa integrity?

[azinec]

@antipolitikz - yup, the case was not entirely about SALN. The SALN issue on the Rabe case formed part of the entire evidence which resulted into her conviction.

@ilovedogs - Abt the illegal money, there is also a presumption in law that when a person is in possession of a thing which is the product of an illegal act, that person is also the author of the illegal act. That does not reconcile with the presumption of ownership that I stated earlier. So how do you reconcile that, we go to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights - that no man will be deprived of life, liberty and PROPERTY without due process of law. So the presumption of ownership would prevail, unless proven otherwise. In the Rabe case, it was proven that the money was indeed a acquired thru illegal means, thus her conviction.

In the Corona case, the presumption of ownership worked against Corona. Since it was in his account, he was presumed the owner of the money. His mere denial that it was commingled was not corroborated/supported by other evidence, mere denial by the accused himself cannot stand on it's own, it is self serving.

With regard to correction on the SALN, I don't recall the SC, in the Rabe case, giving the idea of allowing the accused to correct the SALN. That part was used extensively by most Senators in arriving to their decisions - the SC did not allow the employee to correct the SALN, why should Corona be allowed to do so.

[dickron]

sure ko mo gawas ni nga event sa question sa BAR..hahaha