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  1. #561

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    i agree with you that it's only by faith. nahimuot ko sa imong comment diri sa imong past hehhe kay we're almost the same bro. May lang kay dili ka sugarol! pero almost mga bati nga buhat akong naagian sad but Im thankful also that god saved me from the slavery of sin. naa gyud bitaw kausaban kung makasabot ta ug magdawat sa kaluwasan.

    about sa teachings sa baptist bro, mao raman gihapon through faith in Jesus Christ we can be saved. Also baptists are bible believers.

  2. #562

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Ephesians 2:8 For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God.

    sige reading comprehension ta ani nga verse;

    For by such grace you have been saved through faith--->unsay gi mean or gi tumbok ani nga verse Faith or grace?


    This does not come from you; it is the gift of God.---> unsa kahay not come from you ? or unsa kaha ang gihatag sa Ginoo nga dili gikan nato kundli only from God? faith or grace?

    asa kaha ang gift ani nilang duha faith or grace?

    FYI, grace na brothers dili na faith..kay faith nagikan sa atong desisyon while grace sa God lang (sola or only? makuha..

    therefore faith alone can't be inferred or based from this verse..kay walay nag refer sa faith nga the only requirement ang grace noon.

    Kuha? dili nako mo sumpay pa ninyo nga zealots..
    Last edited by ketllac; 05-27-2012 at 02:32 PM.

  3. #563

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Faith alone and Bible alone (Sola Scriptura) is NOT Biblical.

  4. #564

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    hello bro, thanks for your comment.

    its true that it is only by the grace of God. but how can we obtain such grace if we have no faith? G-d made his part in that he extends His grace and for us we need that Faith to complete the saving grace.

    ang faith ug grace by the way are 2 different things.

  5. #565

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by wormwoods View Post
    hello bro, thanks for your comment.

    its true that it is only by the grace of God. but how can we obtain such grace if we have no faith? G-d made his part in that he extends His grace and for us we need that Faith to complete the saving grace.

    ang faith ug grace by the way are 2 different things.
    is faith complete and justifiable without good works? let me answer it for you..its a big NO..AY SORRY di man diay ko mo sumpay pa..bye..

  6. #566

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Faith alone and Bible alone (Sola Scriptura) is NOT Biblical.
    people have different views, i respect your belief. but when it comes to salvation, i would say that Jesus alone can save us.

  7. #567

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    is faith complete and justifiable without good works? let me answer it for you..its a big NO..AY SORRY di man diay ko mo sumpay pa..bye..
    bro a good logic is needed here. How come a person say he has faith but doing nothing? of course that kind of faith cant save him. sakto maning imo bro that faith is not complete without showing the outcome but only G-d knows our hearts.

    na mis-understood man gud to most of us ang logic sa FAITH alone bro. they thought nga kung naa kay faith pwede na maglingkod or magpakasala kay luwas naka. it doesnt work that way. Mao bitaw gi encouraged ni Apostle Paul sa mga believers (saved) to search their hearts if they are still in the faith kay naay daghan mao na ang mindset.

    2 corinthians 13
    5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

    Philippians 2
    12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

    But talking about doing good works para mopuno sa atong salvation is non-sense. Perfect ang sacrifice ni Jesus Christ sa cross when he said it is finished, it means our salvation was paid in full ug wala natay ipuno ana bisan gamay nga % sa binuhatan. Good works is only a manifestation that you are now a true child of G-d, you have the holy spirit in you who is working to mold into the character and person G-d wants us to be.

    philippians 2
    13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

    1 corinthians 3
    16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

    Good works bro is only for rewards when we will be with the Lord.

    1 corinthians 3
    15If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

  8. #568

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Atong salvation was hard for the Lord Jesus Christ but he made it to make it possible for us.

  9. #569

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    faith alone is useless u have also to work for your faith...dba? dat simple..

  10. #570

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    kana tingali maoy mas nindot nga suggestion bro. yes it is useless if it shows nothing.

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