True Age of the Universe - Biblical Fact - From Age 0 to Jesus

[sevmik]

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OT:

Clearly the hen was created first. If you know how to read Genesis, you will find the simple answer.

Did He say, Let there be eggs?

Di He even say let there be chickens? And why is God a "He" for you? Isn't God a transcendent?

[biano]

Wala ko namugos but sa thread title pa lang daan you stated a "fact". Substantiate or suffocate

Wait sa ha.. Mo angkon ko nga gi toyo ko na para maka catch ug attention. Creation Biblical fact means Religious.

There is no way for me or anyone to prove my Creation story as 100% fact in an earthly court of law, just like the faith in evolution.

Mao bitaw daghan atheist ni ingon nga Oxym0r0n daw kay from their point of view murag in-ana gyd na.

You owe it not to me but to other Christians here who may have been misleaded by your born-again views.

Do you mean "Other Born Again Christians"? If that's the case, na mislead ra na sila, sunod2x rana sila sa Catholic Evolutionary Doctrine.

You do know right that born-agains and the mainstream Catholics have quite different takes on Scripture?

Bro, bro unsa diay imong pasabot ani?



Bro ako napud mangutana nimo beh. Kung mo to-o ka ug evolution, kinsa mang unggoya si Adam Ug Eve? Asa man sila dapit ni tumaw? Brown sila or puti? Pila kabo-ok ungoy like Adam and Eve in your point of view?

[biano]

OT:
Di He even say let there be chickens?

Sige bro atong usbon nalng ang Bible verse ha?

Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let "EGGS" fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” - Genesis 1:20

[biano]

OT:
And why is God a "He" for you? Isn't God a transcendent?

Bro, you are almost out of line. Pang consult kono ug Catholic priest usa beh..

[MeaCulpa]

this is the part religion fails. Co-Christian having the same CHRIST but different ideas. Arguing. Debating on who is right and wrong. kana akong question, don't take it literally, try to look the whole forest not just the tree.

born again CHRISTianity is not a religion. it's a relationship with GOD. it's a state which one is being renew. had been dead to sin and alive in CHRIST. (But we're just human and inevitably commits mistakes or sins) accepted CHRIST truly as their savior (No Wooden saints nor Little Child). Some may think it's a religion but it is not. not because they go to church everyday, singing praises and lifting their hands to honor GOD doesn't mean-religion. They're just the church. a group of people who unitedly prasing GOD.

Catholic- Constantine accepted CHRISTianity. not Catholiciscm but as the evolution of Catholic church begun, they embrace the pagan way. that's why Catholics have their saints. Mary as Juno and all the saints has a corresponding gods to roman. Bible says, no to idolatry--then why do catholics practice it? you made your Holy Human Father (santo papa) a god.

you said,"is your interpretation of the Holy Scripture one in line with the teachings of the Vatican or of one of yours based on frauds?"--basing on Vatican? is Vatican giving us truth?

well, we all are CHRISTians here. it doesn't matter who's right and wrong. let's just be united and win more souls and bring them to truer light!

[MeaCulpa]

[QUOTE=sevmik;12643465]Sigh, I could go on and on about how flawed your views are but you know what, I don't really need to. True catholics need not argue which came first or which is which. True catholics serve and help each other for the good of everyone. If you really are an adherent of Jesus' teachings, then yoou would understand that the essence of catholicism lies not on who is right but in what right have you done for your fellow humans.

Tell me, when was the last time you swallowed your ideals and helped someone who doesn't adhere to your faith?

"but in what right have you done for your fellow humans". Other Christians don't have that?
Catholic Church right deeds to fellow humans- ahm, what about "The Inquisition", what about ask the news!

WOTL: Ride Bishop Ride - YouTube

[MeaCulpa]

watch that video.

[Saga]

Bro, are you here to really ask that question or just merely defending the theory of evolution?

Kay kung gusto gyd nimo maka balo sa tino-od.. Tan-awa ni tanan debates to hear the other side pud..

Kay bombarded na kaayo ta everyday sa false doctrine sa theory of evolution through mainstream media(National Pornographic, aw Kent said Geographic diay)

Dara ang link: Pili-a ang Titles nag sugod ug Debates...

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it has nothing to do with evolution at all. it has something to do with the fact that there are scientific methods which are considered as facts and is used by both atheist and theist that contradicts your computation of the age of the universe.

you are basically asking me to believe your computation without taking into account this scientific methods which are proven to be accurate and are considered as facts.

[Kenshiro]

how can creationism explain scientific methods of calculating age of certain matters that proves to be accurate. these methods are very effective and is being used today even by vatican. one example is carbon dating.

Wild carbon dates of carbon dating
* Shells from living snails were carbon dated as being 27,000 years old. 3

* Living mollusk shells were dated up to 2,300 years old.4

* A freshly killed seal was carbon dated as having died 1,300 years ago. 5

* “One part of the Vollosovitch mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and another part at 44,000.” 6

* “Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking, and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first.”7

* Material from layers where dinosaurs are found carbon dated at 34,000 years old.8

[Kenshiro]

you said,"is your interpretation of the Holy Scripture one in line with the teachings of the Vatican or of one of yours based on frauds?"--basing on Vatican? is Vatican giving us truth?

well, we all are CHRISTians here. it doesn't matter who's right and wrong. let's just be united and win more souls and bring them to truer light!

Many Roman Catholic practices are not based on Scripture or even on the life of Christ, but rather on ancient pagan doctrines.

Unity is not always right nor does make wrong things right. This so called ecumenical movement is nothing but a unity of all pagan religions. I think the vatican finally found its roots.

Spoiler! 

Pope Benedict receiving the Aborigine "blessing" during his stay in Sydney for the World Youth Day 2008.

This is not converting lost souls but the reverse instead they adapt their practices and teachings, compromising and contradicting the biblical doctrine.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:4