Appeal to our Business Owners - Please Give Consumers a Choice to Buy NON-CHINA Made!

[kris020]

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@TS,

What you are asking is really hard. The reason why there are more Chinese products compared to alternatives is because of profit. For example your Bike helmet. The helmet as you say costs 1,800 php and made in China, If for example other brands like US costs 3k php. Now, supposedly when the retailer bought the china helmet for like 1.3k, while the US is at 2.8k or so. The retailer has more room to increase the price of the China made helmet rather than the US made helmet without it looking too expensive.

Thus local retailers usually stock the cheaper ones because they are the most profitable. And the cheaper the product the less weigh people decide on buying things.

[MeMing]

@mckoy

again, i'm not asking businesses to stock all non-china made goods. i'm just asking that if possible (and i for one know its not going to be easy) to give consumers a choice to buy non-china made goods as well. so if your selling dc shoes made in china, if you can also put some that aren't made in china for consumers to have a choice, that would be great.

with regards to a "made in somewhere else" marking still being made in china in reality, that is beyond us already so let's leave that. that's just like many other things in this life that ordinary people (AKA pawns) just can't do anything about like say what "medical research" has to say... take for example the subject of coffee... almost every month a "medical study" releases saying coffee is GOOD for everyone. then a month later, another "medical study" says it's bad for us. of course, if you think about the entirety of it all, these "researches" are backed by large corporations and are out to make these corporations more money. the same goes with financial institutions (AKA the owners of this world). wala na tay mabuhat ana nila so pasagdan nalang nato.

as for me, so long as it doesn't have "made in china" as a label, i just feel better in buying it. I'm also thinking if it were made in china, i'm sure China would want to have the "made in china" label on it as much as they can since they are proud of such labeling. but of course i know business owners who do the manufacturing will do what it takes to make the most profit even disregarding this labeling but again, nothing we can do with that.

[MeMing]

@TS,

What you are asking is really hard. The reason why there are more Chinese products compared to alternatives is because of profit. For example your Bike helmet. The helmet as you say costs 1,800 php and made in China, If for example other brands like US costs 3k php. Now, supposedly when the retailer bought the china helmet for like 1.3k, while the US is at 2.8k or so. The retailer has more room to increase the price of the China made helmet rather than the US made helmet without it looking too expensive.

Thus local retailers usually stock the cheaper ones because they are the most profitable. And the cheaper the product the less weigh people decide on buying things.

yes it's hard but not impossible. and yes your right the cheaper "made in china" goods have more room for profits since many businesses will put enough mark-up to the point that their prices equal that of goods made by German labor. still, it's not impossible to give consumers a choice.

[mckoy_slipstream]

@mckoy

again, i'm not asking businesses to stock all non-china made goods. i'm just asking that if possible (and i for one know its not going to be easy) to give consumers a choice to buy non-china made goods as well. so if your selling dc shoes made in china, if you can also put some that aren't made in china for consumers to have a choice, that would be great.

with regards to a "made in somewhere else" marking still being made in china in reality, that is beyond us already so let's leave that. that's just like many other things in this life that ordinary people (AKA pawns) just can't do anything about like say what "medical research" has to say... take for example the subject of coffee... almost every month a "medical study" releases saying coffee is GOOD for everyone. then a month later, another "medical study" says it's bad for us. of course, if you think about the entirety of it all, these "researches" are backed by large corporations and are out to make these corporations more money. the same goes with financial institutions (AKA the owners of this world). wala na tay mabuhat ana nila so pasagdan nalang nato.

as for me, so long as it doesn't have "made in china" as a label, i just feel better in buying it. I'm also thinking if it were made in china, i'm sure China would want to have the "made in china" label on it as much as they can since they are proud of such labeling. but of course i know business owners who do the manufacturing will do what it takes to make the most profit even disregarding this labeling but again, nothing we can do with that.

and what are you really asking? the moment the consumer steps in a store to make a purchase or not, that's already the choice your asking for in this thread. the choice of buying or shopping somewhere else. business owners aren't forcing people to buy goods made in china, it's the people who chose to buy these goods. do you think that businessmen will stick to products that don't sell?


and besides, lahat ba ng tao makaka-shopping sa ebay? sa mga alternatives that your discussing here? sa mga bago pa lang nag-work, and wanted to get a dvd player. would they even bother to check if made in china or not? ang focus ng tao is sa brand and location ng store. perception na kasi na if sa known mall bili, it must be genuine, and most of the time, goods sold in malls are really products of such brand. JVC, Panasonic, Sony. yan lang paki ng mga buyer. branded na yan eh. some people who have wised up and know na same ra man ang quality, as they think, will flood to colon and some other locations and get alternative products that have lower price. anu yung alternatives to sony tv na made in china? another sony tv na nasa colon and also made in china.


i respect your opinion on this, but my point is, its really impossible. you think na not buying china made products wont add to their power, or would affect them. nope. if it is packaged goods like food products, chances are, some ingredients are imported from china. i know kasi daghan ko encounter na supplier sa ongpin, and most of their clients are big manufacturers.

and yes, chinese are proud of their products. unlike diri sa atoa. you may be the first to buy a made in the philippines macbook, if ever that happens, but im sure the rest would look somewhere else. ever heard "ha!!! made in the philippines man yan?!" typical reaction of people when their friends just bought a promac.

[Kenshiro]

We need to fix poverty first so that we can buy more expensive non china products.

[reptoid]

If conditions here were better for foreign manufacturers then we would have better consumer choice. For instance most of the furniture manufacturers here have shutdown. The cost of paying off various officials became too much as global competition squeezed their slim profit margins. A great many everyday essentials really should be manufactured here. This dependence on cheap imports is ridiculous considering that labor costs here are low.

[MeMing]

@mckoy

I think we are on the same page now that what I'm asking here is only an "option" for buyers and nothing more. Everything else beyond a consumer's capacity shouldn't be included in this discussion. That includes the effects of not buying non-china made goods too.

I beg to differ that giving consumers a choice is impossible - it is hard and nearly impossible for some even but not impossible.

I know the reality so I'm just appealing. Of course I don't expect all businesses to go out of their way to give consumers the choice to buy non-china made goods since I for one am sure most wouldn't bother so long as their china-made goods are giving them the profits they deserve. Still, I'm appealing. I'm doing so since it's cheap to do so. Its FREE in fact.

Btw, Colon is like my backyard. I can just walk and bike their everyday. And contrary to popular belief, the products their aren't really cheaper. Take for example a new ref I bought to replace an aging 10 year old one last week. I bought it at park mall because it was P500.00 cheaper. Worst? I bought it from the same company that was selling it P500.00 more in Colon. I can go on and on with this believe me. Sun Gold marketing for one sell furniture at a much more expensive price than SM department store. Samot ng mga "surplus stores" in downtown! OMG. They are selling surplus executive chairs for P4,000.00+ upwards and I bought mine (a better version with steel parts holding them wheels, etc.) at P2,900.00 brand new at SM department store.

Again, the notion that shops in "colon" are cheaper are as false as "made in china goods are cheaper". If consumers can just go beyond popular belief, it shouldn't be all that hard to find out.

@reptoid

Unfortunately, our labor costs here can't compete with that of China (as of now at least. but their cost of labor is growing but I reckon it will still be cheaper than hours no matter where it goes). This is the reality and of course as what you've said, the cause of doing business (insert miscellaneous cost of bribing, etc.) here makes it even harder for manufacturing (example of this is the seagate plant that had to move to thailand because of the nonsense in politics in cebu). Not to mention our labor unions that's not existent in china (at least in public for now).

So, anybody else knows of more goods that are sold locally that aren't made in china?

[Kenshiro]

Taiwan made products are lot better quality as of lately.
I attributed this to my Silverstone computer case which has a topnotch quality.

[MeMing]

Taiwan made products are lot better quality as of lately.
I attributed this to my Silverstone computer case which has a topnotch quality.

add Thermaltake products and a whole list of other IT products made in Taiwan to this list.

[printrheads]

mao nani ron be selective na ta na ddiiiillllliiii na jud ta mo buy ug product that is made by monggoloids

Aren't we genetically Mongoloids as well? lol