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    Default Re: San Miguel Corporation to control PAL soon?


    It's actually good since at the very least, Filipino families are the ones dominating the private sector and not foreign capitalists. Our proud homegrown business companies like San Miguel, Ayala, SM Prime, Lopez, Pangilinan Group, the Gaisanos, Gokongweis, Gotianun, Aboitiz and Lucio Tan.

    Pero if ginahan jud ta nga dili lang sila ang mag-dominate, then what will we do? We need to change the mindset of Filipinos. If we usually say that "Muiskwela ko aron makakita og desenteng trabaho", it should not bode well now. What we need are a people who "Study to find a good job and then save up and venture into business." We need to change the mindset of the people and promote entrepreneurships if we really want to see more Filipinos making it big in business. Business don't always have to start big, you just have to be dedicated enough to grow your company despite your small capital.

  2. #12

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    Perhaps SMC can deal with the airline's problems better than Tan.

  3. #13

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    im hoping mo barato ang PAL & more promos... perti rabang mahala sa PAL of all the airline in our country... mao nang cebu pacific og air phil jud ko pirme sakay kay sigeg ga promo unya mas barato pa...

  4. #14

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    ^ Naa man pud Airphil Express. Same company ra pero ang Airphil kay meant as an LCC (Low Cost Carrier) so mas barato siya. PAL, dili najud na mubarato ang PAL. Flag Carrier man na siya. There's also Cebu Pacific og AirAsia Philippines nga barato pod.

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonell View Post
    It's actually good since at the very least, Filipino families are the ones dominating the private sector and not foreign capitalists. Our proud homegrown business companies like San Miguel, Ayala, SM Prime, Lopez, Pangilinan Group, the Gaisanos, Gokongweis, Gotianun, Aboitiz and Lucio Tan.
    I beg to disagree. What the constitution really provides for is a guarantee that the richest families will always have a market for their subpar products. Saying it's to protect Filipino industries is just bullshit. There is no incentive for the Filipino to improve because the market is guaranteed, the oligarchs are spoiled rotten, and the common tao is easily manipulated.

    And what have we to show for after decades of these protectionist policies? We lead in what technology or industry? Our greatest export is labor and people know who we are because of Manny Pacquiao and basically nothing else. We produce good workers and that's about it. Sure we have some of the highest electricity rates in Asia and some of the most expensive medicine prices in the world but topping rankings like these do not make me proud.

    I'd rather have foreign capitalists like call centers paying 17k minimum a month than a Gaisano owned company, that after causing the death of some workers, won't even pay them their dues.

    Open the doors and destroy all obstacles for foreign capitalists!

    Walmart vs Gaisano... Jetstar vs Cebu Pac... Purefoods vs Hormel... Who ever wins we benefit.

  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonell View Post
    ^ Naa man pud Airphil Express. Same company ra pero ang Airphil kay meant as an LCC (Low Cost Carrier) so mas barato siya. PAL, dili najud na mubarato ang PAL. Flag Carrier man na siya. There's also Cebu Pacific og AirAsia Philippines nga barato pod.
    Unsaon pagbarato na kulang sa competition ang atong airline sector mao ang PAL mahal kaayo ug pletehan. If we encourage more competition then PAL gradually would force to lower price while improving their services in order not to lose customers to competing airline companies.

  7. #17

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    ang Beer ipasakay sa Airplane na PAL walay plete

  8. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph20102011 View Post
    Unsaon pagbarato na kulang sa competition ang atong airline sector mao ang PAL mahal kaayo ug pletehan. If we encourage more competition then PAL gradually would force to lower price while improving their services in order not to lose customers to competing airline companies.
    You see. PAL and Cebu Pacific may be competing but they are not of the same degree.

    Cebu Pacific is a Low-Cost Carrier. LCCs are airlines that do not give you the same comfort and grandness as ordinary airlines but what they do offer is a cheaper airfare. That is what sets LCCs different from those ordinary airlines. They give you a lower fare but you'll have to sacrifice for the lesser expense. Like no snacks are offered for free unlike PAL, Cathay Pacific, Qatar Airways and such.

    PAL is a flag carrier. Basically PAL, like any other airline offers a more expensive yet more luxurious and comfortable service than Cebu Pacific. It is just a competition on airfare really. And since Filipinos are generally poor, Cebu Pacific had the edge because first and foremost it is offering a way cheaper airfare than that of Philippine Airlines.

    I beg to disagree on the argument that there is less competition in the local airline industry. There are as a matter of fact many local carriers operating in the Philippines. Cebu Pacific is considered as Asia's 3rd largest low cost carrier after Tiger Airways and AirAsia. Here are the lists of registered local airlines in the country:
    List of airlines of the Philippines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    There are six airlines that dominate the Philippine aviation industry. They are Cebu Pacific, Philippine Airlines, Airphil Express, Zest Air Seair and Spirit of Manila. Although, most of the local airline companies are categorized as low cost carriers while PAL is the flag carrier.

    PAL also has a low-cost carrier airline that is meant to compete head-to-head with CEB which Airphil Express. Airphil Express is a low-cost version of PAL that was created to challenge the dominance of CEB in the domestic market.

    Also, we must note that there is the foreign airline named AirAsia Philippines which is originates from Malaysia. They are also set to challenge both Airphil and CEB for dominance in the local and even on the world market share. Now, with all of these, I do not think the Philippine airline industry suffers no competition, there is, and it is a stiff competition. The Philippine market is growing steadily with more and more Filipinos being able to fly thanks to low-cost carriers and as competition intensifies then expect the airfare prices to go lower as time passes. There is more to the Philippines than what we usually think. Despite the protectionist constitution we have, we have a formidable economy that is insulated from the crisis in Europe. We are no longer the Philippines of the last decade, we are starting to regain the lost glory that we enjoyed in the good old days. What more if there will be constitutional reform? We might become another global power head-to-head with China, Japan, India and Indonesia. There is strength in numbers, if there is proper economic management on the part of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trollolol View Post
    I beg to disagree. What the constitution really provides for is a guarantee that the richest families will always have a market for their subpar products. Saying it's to protect Filipino industries is just bullshit. There is no incentive for the Filipino to improve because the market is guaranteed, the oligarchs are spoiled rotten, and the common tao is easily manipulated.

    And what have we to show for after decades of these protectionist policies? We lead in what technology or industry? Our greatest export is labor and people know who we are because of Manny Pacquiao and basically nothing else. We produce good workers and that's about it. Sure we have some of the highest electricity rates in Asia and some of the most expensive medicine prices in the world but topping rankings like these do not make me proud.

    I'd rather have foreign capitalists like call centers paying 17k minimum a month than a Gaisano owned company, that after causing the death of some workers, won't even pay them their dues.

    Open the doors and destroy all obstacles for foreign capitalists!

    Walmart vs Gaisano... Jetstar vs Cebu Pac... Purefoods vs Hormel... Who ever wins we benefit.
    Yes, the protectionist constitution is really one big obstacle to full economic prosperity. I would even advocate a reform on the constitution it's just that the current political system in the Philippines is rather still shaky and fragile. I wanted to promote a Federal system for the country to make sure that every province gets their share of the investments and so there will also be competition between LGU's and make us more competitive. But what worries me is if the other provinces are capable of carrying the burden of standing alone in the federation. For instance, if we transform to a federal union, provinces like Lanao, and most provinces in Mindanao might not survive the stiff competition that comes out of every other province as they try to best each other. They are not yet financially capable to stand on their own. This is a bane for the country's economy. Because we cannot transform unless everyone is ready for it. Cebu is lucky, it can survive on its own if ever we become federal. Cebu is supported by commerce, trade, industry, export and outsourcing. We are financially strong compared to the rest of the country. but what of the others? I think we'll have to prepare them first and not rush into something that may become an omen in the future. What is thought of as a great dream may become a nightmare if we rush things up.

    Foreign capitalists will benefit the market but will also badly affect the worker. This is the primary premise on why Marx criticized western capitalism specifically during the industrial revolution in England. We cannot just open everything to them. Protect industries that are vital to the needs of the people like water, agriculture, energy and other important industries. It may be good that there are foreign investors but let us not forget that these foreign companies originate from another country and they are, as far as business attitude is concerned, influenced by their home country. It now becomes a matter of diplomatic leverage. For the sake of national security and freeing the country from possible economic pressures on vital industries, we must only allow local companies to enter. Not everything in the Philippine economy must be opened to foreign competition. That is something that needs more pondering and analysis before jumping into conclusions.

    For instance, Cambodia has opened up its economy to foreign capitalist. They sold their properties and land to foreign corporations and now most of the country is already owned by Chinese and Singaporean investors. But did the country become rich? No, they are worse than the Philippines. That is the effect of a rather reckless act of opening up everything to foreign capitalists. What we need is proper economic management to make sure that even as the Philippines is open to foreign investments, we are not left with the shorter end of the stick. We need to weigh things properly and decide which sectors should or should not be opened to foreign companies.

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    now i am expecting red horse will be sold by flight attendants during flights.. ahahaha... nindota basta doul ka sa window sky seeing with redhorse..

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