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  1. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    mao nang way pag-asa atung nasud kay tanan tawo nagtuo nga sila ray sakto nya ang uban sayop
    nya unsa man ka brad, sakto o sayop? hahaha

  2. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by King LeBron View Post
    nya unsa man ka brad, sakto o sayop? hahaha
    sakto ko nga wa na tay pag-asa

  3. #133

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsa man say qualification nimu sa VOTERS bro? kinsay mag set ana?

    Can you quantify the goodness of a persons intention?
    We can not clean a filthy house with one sweep, with one broom.

    Initially, the Commission on Elections will be tasked to set up a clean slate. But not in the present mandate. Their composition and structure has got to be reformed by adding a branch of the Comelec that will conduct some sort of a board exam for voters. No, we can not quantify the goodness of a person's intents, so this screening will not be like a classroom exam but more of a psychological test. The effort will be daunting and massive at first, but we have got to start somewhere, it is a long journey and this is just a first step. This has never been done before ever in the history of democracy so we will learn along the way.

    What matter is that we all realize that a filthy electoral population is one of the core tumors that eats up the system.

    Perhaps me might form a group of individuals thinking along the same line... try to help and fix this beautiful country, rather than let be run like hell. La Solidaridad of our modern times...how about that?

  4. #134

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    I asked the same question 2 days ago, weird I found this query here. Matud pa sa akong gikahinabi--ilisan tanang tawo. The culture that we have molds us, our reactions and decisions. We know something's wrong and we have been staring at the fact far too long we've become numb and hopeless. Balik ta sa elementary beh-social studies man siguro tong subject na naglimbigit ining mga bati sa pinoy i.e. Crab Mentality, Maņana habit, Filipino time, Padrino system... Pagpakabana kana ato kinahanglan karon, miski dili sa atong nasod but unta sa atong mga silingan.

  5. #135

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuyabog View Post
    We can not clean a filthy house with one sweep, with one broom.

    Initially, the Commission on Elections will be tasked to set up a clean slate. But not in the present mandate. Their composition and structure has got to be reformed by adding a branch of the Comelec that will conduct some sort of a board exam for voters. No, we can not quantify the goodness of a person's intents, so this screening will not be like a classroom exam but more of a psychological test. The effort will be daunting and massive at first, but we have got to start somewhere, it is a long journey and this is just a first step. This has never been done before ever in the history of democracy so we will learn along the way.

    What matter is that we all realize that a filthy electoral population is one of the core tumors that eats up the system.

    Perhaps me might form a group of individuals thinking along the same line... try to help and fix this beautiful country, rather than let be run like hell. La Solidaridad of our modern times...how about that?
    sa kataas sa imung reply wa jud nimu gi present unsay basihan/qualification para mahimung qualified voters ang isa ka tawo.

    Unsay diay ma achieve anang psychological test? mahibal-an diay na if balimbing ang isa ka Voters? mahibal-an diay na if pananglitan ako mubutar ko if kinsa tong kandidato muhatag nko ug dako?

  6. #136

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    Quote Originally Posted by sykeia View Post
    I asked the same question 2 days ago, weird I found this query here. Matud pa sa akong gikahinabi--ilisan tanang tawo. The culture that we have molds us, our reactions and decisions. We know something's wrong and we have been staring at the fact far too long we've become numb and hopeless. Balik ta sa elementary beh-social studies man siguro tong subject na naglimbigit ining mga bati sa pinoy i.e. Crab Mentality, Maņana habit, Filipino time, Padrino system... Pagpakabana kana ato kinahanglan karon, miski dili sa atong nasod but unta sa atong mga silingan.
    Dili ing ana ka sayun ang problema sa atung nasud karun. Sobra pas complicated atung problema. Youre looking only in one side sa atung sitwasyon. kung sayun pa atung problema, nganu wa pa man ta nausab nga daghan man tawo sama nimu nga nag ingun nga sila maoy nakahibalo unsay Solosyon?

  7. #137

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    hehe kung mao na nga tanan wa kabawo sa solosyon.. sakto ka, wala na ta pag asa

  8. #138

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    wrong post...
    Last edited by ketllac; 01-11-2012 at 06:47 PM.

  9. #139

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    please don't equate our constitution with liberty... though the constitution provides a provision of liberty, but it also provided provisions that violate liberty...

    It is the economic consequence of political policies that endangers the future of all citizens, and somehow we can't seem to separate both... As long as the government is allowed to do the planning, there will never be any change towards progress... Government should never be the medium through which any citizen depend his labor with...

    There is only one true unity, unity for liberty.... let man live or destroy his own life, with the government never to interfere or intercede.... government can never give anything without first robbing it legally from some one...

    I am against a central planning mentality...Are we on a path to socialism and communism? All central planning mentality, good or bad, leads to socialism and communism whereby the liberty of the citizens will diminish for the sake of "progress." We become utilitarian in nature and degrade the human dignity of which liberty has initially bestowed...
    there's no such thing as absolute liberty...the fact that there's an established systems and structures that we are adapting, it can be denied that there are also restraints and controls from the system itself. among theories of liberties, part of it is social structures and agency..

    I am not endorsing socialism/communism ideology here to the extent applying the central planning mentality like in China..what I am promoting here is an agreement of common goal and visions in the context of this present system..

    if you believe that government shouldn't be allowed to do the planning, what is your ideal state or government then? and who will then design the planning and run the trading both domestic and international? are you saying all of us are qualified?
    Last edited by ketllac; 01-12-2012 at 04:26 PM.

  10. #140

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    there's no such thing as absolute liberty...the fact that there's an established systems and structures that we are adapting, it can be denied that there are restraints and controls from the system itself. among theories of liberties, part of it is social structures and agency..

    I am not endorsing socialism/socialism here to the extent applying the central planning mentality like in China..what I am promoting here is an agreement of common goal and visions in the context of this present system..

    if you believe that government shouldn't be allowed to do the planning, what is your ideal state or government then? and who will then design the planning and run the trading both domestic and international? are you saying all of us are qualified?
    yes, there is no such thing as aboslute liberty, as there is no absolute honesty, as there is no absolute efficiency, etc... But the concept of liberty is natural to all of us, it doesn't need any authority from any one or any institution.... You are a perfect example of a product of the conventional educational system, whereby the idea of non-interference of government in the free market and in your personal life is so out of this world... But, 200 years ago, US almost acheived absolute freedom, save from slavery and tariffs...

    My ideal state would be, government protecting our natural rights to life liberty and property, prodviding national defense, and enforcing contracts. The economy will be left to the private enterprises of the citizens, less permits, less regulations, and more competition, more trade, and more supply of any goods and services... the true demand of any product or service will be really reflect in the market, and not by artificial means like through government intervention. Therefore, the power in the economy will shift from government and unscrupulous businessmen back to the consumers.

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