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  1. #101

    Default Re: Fixing our country: Where did we go wrong?


    Quote Originally Posted by kuyabog View Post
    Where did we go wrong?

    The answer is Manuel Luis Quezon, 1940.

    "I would rather see a Philippines run like HELL by Filipinos than run like HEAVEN by Americans!"

    Now we are in HELL...run of course by Filipinos.............


    Not every voter is QUALIFIED to be an intelligent voter. That is the first failure of democracy in this country.
    Very true... and this failure spreads towards the entire economy and citzens when the government is allowed to intervene so much...

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    Very true... and this failure spreads towards the entire economy and citzens when the government is allowed to intervene so much...
    so whats your solution? sayun ra kaayu pag point ug fingers or pag identify sa problem baya pero ang lisod ang pagpangita ug SOLUTION.

  3. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    so whats your solution? sayun ra kaayu pag point ug fingers or pag identify sa problem baya pero ang lisod ang pagpangita ug SOLUTION.
    hahahhaa... simple ra kaau solution it is so simple but it will be too complicated for most to comprehend... Shrink government's role in free market and individual choices...that means, no welfare programs.... Yes, people will be defiant, losing their benefits from the government...but they will reap great benefits in the free market...

  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    hahahhaa... simple ra kaau solution it is so simple but it will be too complicated for most to comprehend... Shrink government's role in free market and individual choices...that means, no welfare programs.... Yes, people will be defiant, losing their benefits from the government...but they will reap great benefits in the free market...
    simple guro istoryahun, pero ang pag implement? simple sad?

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    simple guro istoryahun, pero ang pag implement? simple sad?
    well, if simplicity will be the sole basis to affect change, i think the one i propose is the simplest of all... we are just stuck in a cycle of brilliant men after brilliant men, brilliant ideas after brilliant ideas, but where are we now? more than 70 years since Quezon, where are we now? So to accept the status quo idea of "its the leadership that is the problem!" is denying the root of the problem...therefore, we never have solutions for the root of the problem, but on the branches of the problem... but everytime government tries to intercede in the behalf of the people, it creates new problems...

    Stating the obvious is too elementary, it is always said easier than it is being done.... The philosophy is easier compared to its application, and that is true to all bodies of knowledge...Condescending as you are, i would like to hear some of your suggestions as to give us the benefit of scrutinizing your intellect....

  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    well, if simplicity will be the sole basis to affect change, i think the one i propose is the simplest of all... we are just stuck in a cycle of brilliant men after brilliant men, brilliant ideas after brilliant ideas, but where are we now? more than 70 years since Quezon, where are we now? So to accept the status quo idea of "its the leadership that is the problem!" is denying the root of the problem...therefore, we never have solutions for the root of the problem, but on the branches of the problem... but everytime government tries to intercede in the behalf of the people, it creates new problems...

    Stating the obvious is too elementary, it is always said easier than it is being done.... The philosophy is easier compared to its application, and that is true to all bodies of knowledge...Condescending as you are, i would like to hear some of your suggestions as to give us the benefit of scrutinizing your intellect....
    kining imung gipang yawit diri, di kaha ni isa sa imung example sa "we are just stuck in a cycle of brilliant men after brilliant men, brilliant ideas after brilliant ideas, but where are we now?" - Brilliant baya kaayu paminawun imung diskorso.

    i dont have suggestions cos sa akong previous post i said nga way pag asa atung nasud ma fix.

  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    kining imung gipang yawit diri, di kaha ni isa sa imung example sa "we are just stuck in a cycle of brilliant men after brilliant men, brilliant ideas after brilliant ideas, but where are we now?" - Brilliant baya kaayu paminawun imung diskorso.

    i dont have suggestions cos sa akong previous post i said nga way pag asa atung nasud ma fix.
    question: do you know what point i was driving at?

    If you believe there is no hope in this country, then good for you... they said, ignorance is bliss...

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    so whats your solution? sayun ra kaayu pag point ug fingers or pag identify sa problem baya pero ang lisod ang pagpangita ug SOLUTION.
    first step: clean up the electoral institution. NOT EVERYONE can vote.

  9. #109

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    I don't know if this could fix the solution but I just found this article after ramping up knowledge about Cha-Cha.

    How to CoRRECT

    I also got interested in the issues surrounding the 1987 Constitution implemented during Cory's time. I couldn't find the entries in the constitution about how it is pro-oligarch and pro-poor and has kept the phils from advancing like other countries. I ended up with hits like pages above.

    I'm not sure HOW biased the post is but based lang sa arguments mentioned I think, for the benefit of the entire country maybe we do need constitutional reforms and maybe a shift of presidential to parliamentary system.

  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuyabog View Post
    first step: clean up the electoral institution. NOT EVERYONE can vote.
    hmm... i also had thoughts of this in the past. if you're not literate or educated enough dapat dili maka-vote kai kai mao raba na ang rason sa kadaugan ni erap. ang mga ihas nagboto niya.

    unsaon kaha na? tagaan ug IQ test sa pre-elections? hehehe

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