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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    hahahaha. BALIMBING! The pinoys are absolutely balimbing; when SC released madam Arroyo's TOR the public condemned the SC for being biased towards Gloria and now SC gave their say on H.Luis and the same people who cursed them is the same who's applauding them. this is some crazy horse-sh*t. hahaha

    Proves to show how fickle minded people are and how brainless they are. All the public see are facial value.f
    fair-weathered fans lang jud ang mga Pinoy. Sorry, but that's the truth. Even I'm guilty of this sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    hahahaha. BALIMBING! The pinoys are absolutely balimbing; when SC released madam Arroyo's TOR the public condemned the SC for being biased towards Gloria and now SC gave their say on H.Luis and the same people who cursed them is the same who's applauding them. this is some crazy horse-sh*t. hahaha

    Proves to show how fickle minded people are and how brainless they are. All the public see are facial value.f
    that, or you can see factional/partisan politics in action, treating and using legitimate issues as barbs and spears they hurl at each other at their convenience to gain public favor at the expense of its enemies.

    this is a game of power, a game of thrones. real-politik, pure and simple.

    the challenge to the public is to play the game to its advantage, define its own interest and build (legislate, magistrate, execute) around it, instead of letting other interests do it on its behalf.

    the issue of the Hacienda Luisita is an example of this. other examples are Executive Orders for salary increases during Labor Day, and other perfectly timed "publicly favorable" decisions, orders, etc by the courts/government.

    thus is how they play. do we know that they are playing? are we aware of the gameplan?
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    their gameplan ? it's simple to decipher - WHO HOARDS THE BIGGEST MONEY. hahaha

    majority of the public doesn't know that they are like marbles being played on the palm.
    the first step is to know the game. the next is to play it and play it well. the last is to play it despite the odds, until you win.

    the Hacienda Luisita issue is a marble that the farmers are winning. relentless struggle and perseverance is paying off.

    i hope i could say the same for other marbles that are being played, and the players playing them.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    i saw an interview of one of the farmers, she's old, more like in her 60s and she said that they have been fighting since the time of her GRANDMOTHER. I hope the Supreme Court resolution would be absolute this time. But i'm sensing that after the Arroyo teleserye, the Conjuancos will file an appeal to reverse the decision.
    they are expected to, this is after all their bread and butter, their fount of power. when you hit a political/landlord clan on the economic aspect, which incidentally is where their power lies and where it is defined, expect fierce resistance.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    ng rule naman ang Supreme court ang ipanghatag na ang mga yuta sa mga farmers.....

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    approx. 5k hectares divided by 6k farmers = .83 hectare each...
    so unsa may mabuhat nimo sa imong .83 hectare aside from pag pananum ug tubo ?

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    ka dako intawn anang .83 hectare oi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edoy View Post
    approx. 5k hectares divided by 6k farmers = .83 hectare each...
    so unsa may mabuhat nimo sa imong .83 hectare aside from pag pananum ug tubo ?
    may nalang na kaysa wala. at least ila tanan ang ginansya sa ilang mga gipang tanom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edoy View Post
    approx. 5k hectares divided by 6k farmers = .83 hectare each...
    so unsa may mabuhat nimo sa imong .83 hectare aside from pag pananum ug tubo ?
    20years from now, gamay na lang ang mahibilin anang 5K hectares.
    most likely, ila ra pud na ibaligya balik sa hacienda or ibaligya sa naay gusto mopalit.
    then they will go back to being "saop"...then, 50 years from now, they will fight again nga dapat tagaan na sila ug yuta kay wala silay yuta...

    that 5k hectares should have a restriction...It cannot be sold again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    20years from now, gamay na lang ang mahibilin anang 5K hectares.
    most likely, ila ra pud na ibaligya balik sa hacienda or ibaligya sa naay gusto mopalit.
    then they will go back to being "saop"...then, 50 years from now, they will fight again nga dapat tagaan na sila ug yuta kay wala silay yuta...

    that 5k hectares should have a restriction...It cannot be sold again.


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    naay restriction bai pero 10years ra

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